Oso planning to go pro
Even if they could figure out the scheduling in a way that benefits both schools, playing against UWM is a no-win scenario for Marquette. If MU wins, even in a blowout, nobody cares since UWM is a middle-of-the-pack Horizon team. If MU loses, it draws a bunch of negative attention, even though it would only drop the all-time MU win percentage to 97.5%. It's the same as playing a SWAC school, but the attention on a loss would be amplified 100x. All risk, no reward.
Wisconsin lost to UWM in 2015.That season they went to S16, the next season they went to the S16.Losing to UWM is not the end of the world.
Isn't it the second or third longest single team win streak in the country?
It's the longest streak without defeat. I believe Syracuse has a longer winning streak over a single opponent, but it's to an opponent they lost to, maybe back in the 1930s.
TAMUI do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.
My recollection is that UWM wouldn't take a straight buy game from Marquette. Or they wanted Marquette to pay them what anyone else would pay them, even though they don't have to travel to play the game.
Pearl pulled that stuff on MU demanding a return game, after going on the radio and saying he'd do a buy game with MU. But we all know Pearl is a snake oil salesman.That said, play UWM. As others have said, it's better than playing Grambline or UAPB or some other 300+ RPI team, and there would be some buzz in the city.
RPI means very little anymore. I also remember basically zero buzz for the MU vs. UWM game when I was in school.
The petty side of me loved when TC ran it up on them.
You don't think there'd be any buzz for a game that includes one of the best freshmen in the country vs the city's dominant team (and a traditional "name" school) with its new big-name coach?I don't think it would lead Sportscenter or anything, but I'd have to think there would be at least a little buzz if we played the Fightin' Baldwins this coming season.
The fear of playing UWM from Marquette alum and fans is bewildering
Pearl pulled that stuff on MU demanding a return game, after going on the radio and saying he'd do a buy game with MU. But we all know Pearl is a snake oil salesman.That said, play UWM. As others have said, it's better than playing Grambling or UAPB or some other 300+ RPI team, and there would be some buzz in the city.
Again, there is no way it would be a one off game. Scheduling a series to play one game when UWM is relevant for a minute and then sacrificing scheduling spots later on is dumb. And no, there would be no buzz post PBJ. They haven’t averaged more than 2500 fans in 5+ years. There isn’t buzz around Louisville when UL plays Bellarmine. There isn’t buzz when Georgia Tech plays Kennesaw St. This idea that a UWM-MU series is lacking or desired by more than 2-3000 people is silly. If Marquette beat a bad UWM team by 30 when PBJ scores 25, the anticipation for next years matchup when he’s in the NBA would be no different than IUPUI
Buy games are all about what makes financial sense for the program. If we aren't scheduling UWM, it's because something about that doesn't make financial sense. If that changes, we would play UWM again.
This. It's way more interesting than Grambling or UAPB and UWM's RPI or BPI or whatever will at least be higher to boot.
Wags, where do live / work? What’s your STH situation? Being a MKE resident and someone who works downtown and has had tickets for 28 years, its my experience the “water cooler” talk for a MU / UWM is significantly higher for. UWM game vs a typical buy. I wouldn’t ruin our scheduling formula for them but I would consider a 3:1.
and while I'd refuse to give them a home game if they did demand one it would be a quasi home game for us with a nice nostalgia factor with us playing at the Arena.
Both in the greater Milwaukee area. Not sure why STH situations matter but Ive always been, in some form, for the last 30+ years since I was a little kid.I don't work with any UWM grads, so maybe thats the difference, but I can't remember any banter about it other than the early 2000s when they were good under Pearl and kids I went to HS with were students there. Maybe "significantly higher" means "I saw Marquette is playing UWM tonight" as opposed to "oh, there is an MU game tonight, who are they playing?"Id bet the feelings on that, from people who are used to watching games at The Fiserv, and the BC before, are less than 10-15%. Its not the 70s, there's a 3pt line and amazing video screens in MU's home arena, watching a game at the Arena is like the fond nostalgia memories you have when you park your nice new car at the airport going on a trip and pick up a Nissan Versa at Hertz at your destination and remember your first car as a 16 year old as you barely hit 70 on the highway and other cars fly by.