Calvin Godfrey - eligible NOW

[Jay Bee]

You can search him and see past commentary.. we did play against him last year (opener vs. Southern). He fouled out and didn't have a great game, but did collect 11 rebounds (5 off) in 26 minutes.

@JBBauer612
Milwaukee kid Calvin Godfrey eligible to play this season - would #mubb consider? This is one I think you may want to.
Godfrey finished HS in Minn; played with ISU, Howard (Jae C), almost LSU & Southern. 6'9 defender, rebounder, MEAN! #mubb

His attitude and demeanor was always... rough... in high school. Then he had his share of issues once off to college. 1) Is Milwaukee not a good place for him to be? 2) Has he matured and ready to lead on the court?

Wojo.. my sense is he may want to pass on an opportunity like this, but I hope he strongly considers Godfrey. 6'9", a big, mean defensive presence who can rebound on both sides, block shots... inside game is there, draws fouls.

Was a big part of the poor Southern U offense last year, but was good (110 ORtg, 24% usage, 54.2% eFG [shot only 2FG's - he's an inside guy], got to the line a ton (67% when there).. 6.5% blk, 11.6 OR%, 23.5% DR%, to rate of only 15%.

18 & 9 (5 off) vs. Arizona last season.

As a frosh at Iowa State, 12% & 17% OR & DR, respectively.. 4.6%, 2.8% blk & stl.. 113 ORtg on 13% usage.

What he brings on the court would be ever so helpful. One year left to play. Risk? Certainly. Reward? Uh huh.

[PS - consider keeping overly-negative commentary off the board... if your opinion is you'd pass due to his past, fine... no need to expound on that stuff here]

[jsglow]

Jay,

What circumstances make Godfrey available now with eligibility this year?  Not going to comment on his history.  I'll let Wojo and the Marquette administration figure that part out.

[Warrior Code]

Would his cousin Gilbert lead the We Are Marquette chant?

The horror!

[Jay Bee]

Jay,

What circumstances make Godfrey available now with eligibility this year?  Not going to comment on his history.  I'll let Wojo and the Marquette administration figure that part out.

He should* be able to be brought into grad school and apply for a waiver. Not as straightforward for him because he's transferred in the past. It's possible there could be complications so not a #donedeal until you see him fully cleared.

To add a little more color BRIEFLY:
Lockett - "Graduate transfer exception" situation
Godfrey - No go on the exception, but "graduate transfer waiver" is possible (solid likelihood)
Carlino - more similar to Godfrey

[jsglow]

He should* be able to be brought into grad school and apply for a waiver. Not as straightforward for him because he's transferred in the past. It's possible there could be complications so not a #donedeal until you see him fully cleared.

To add a little more color BRIEFLY:
Carlino - "Graduate transfer exception" situation
Godfrey - No go on the exception, but "graduate transfer waiver" is possible (solid likelihood)

Okay thanks.  Didn't know there were subtle differences.  Still sounds like a 'Russell Wilson' answer.  Good enough for me.

[keefe]

I have no idea what his 'issues' might be but if he can grab double digit rebounds and give five fouls we should take him.

[HutchwasClutch]

He should* be able to be brought into grad school and apply for a waiver. Not as straightforward for him because he's transferred in the past. It's possible there could be complications so not a #donedeal until you see him fully cleared.

To add a little more color BRIEFLY:
Carlino - "Graduate transfer exception" situation
Godfrey - No go on the exception, but "graduate transfer waiver" is possible (solid likelihood)

A 6'9" kid who has played at this level eligible to compete this season.  Sounds great to me.

Admittedly not knowing a thing about his academic situation, do you really think there's a snowball's chance in hell he's done enough academically based on his checkered past to warrant the NCAA doing anything but laughing at a graduate transfer or waiver on him?!  I would say it's pretty likely he's done nothing but blow off classes and done just enough to stay eligible.  

Maybe I'm completely wrong, but guys that get grad waivers and exceptions don't bring this kind of baggage, not that I've ever heard of anyway.

[GGGG]

To say the guy has a checkered past is a bit of an understatement.  I think Wojo isn't going to want to bring in a guy with that background onto a younger team...which would also then limit him to one new scholarship for next year.

[keefe]

To say the guy has a checkered past is a bit of an understatement.  I think Wojo isn't going to want to bring in a guy with that background onto a younger team...which would also then limit him to one new scholarship for next year.

In the fighter pilot world a checkered past is an expectation

[HutchwasClutch]

A 6'9" kid who has played at this level eligible to compete this season.  Sounds great to me.

Admittedly not knowing a thing about his academic situation, do you really think there's a snowball's chance in hell he's done enough academically based on his checkered past to warrant the NCAA doing anything but laughing at a graduate transfer or waiver on him?!  I would say it's pretty likely he's done nothing but blow off classes and done just enough to stay eligible.  

Maybe I'm completely wrong, but guys that get grad waivers and exceptions don't bring this kind of baggage, not that I've ever heard of anyway.

I did a Google search and the first story I read is how LSU didn't admit him in 2012. This after not doing enough academically at HOWARD University to gain eligiblity, and getting kicked off Iowa State as a freshman prior to his failed attempt at Howard.

This is clearly not happening, and that's not even taking into account there's no way I'd see Wojo wanting him.  The notion of him being a grad eligible/ grad waiver at MU is laughable.

[GGGG]

Slight correction.  Not Howard University, the acclaimed HBCU in DC, but Howard College, the JUCO in Texas.

[HutchwasClutch]

Slight correction.  Not Howard University, the acclaimed HBCU in DC, but Howard College, the JUCO in Texas.

Wow, it just keeps getting better on this kids chances with the NCAA.

[Jay Bee]

Yeah, Howard College - yuck. Don't need another Jae Crowder, that's for sure!

[HutchwasClutch]

Yeah, Howard College - yuck. Don't need another Jae Crowder, that's for sure!

I realize how wonderful it would be to add a guy at this point who is a big, and can play next season, but there's no reality to thinking the NCAA would look at this for two seconds before saying no, or laughing no.  And just because they both happened to attend Howard juco once upon a time, doesn't make him remotely comparable to Crowder.

[WarriorFan]

It would be the rough equivalent of getting Clayton Heuer from UWSP.  Except Heuer would still be academically eligible in the 2nd semester.

[Jay Bee]

I realize how wonderful it would be to add a guy at this point who is a big, and can play next season, but there's no reality to thinking the NCAA would look at this for two seconds before saying no, or laughing no.

I don't mean this in the wrong way, but what I gather from your commentary is that you're not very familiar with the details of the NCAA Bylaws.

[HutchwasClutch]

I don't mean this in the wrong way, but what I gather from your commentary is that you're not very familiar with the details of the NCAA Bylaws.

No, I don't know the details of the NCAA bylaws.  But a previous post you mentioned about him being brought into GRAD school and applying for a waiver.  This guy getting into MU grad school?  Please stop trying to rationalize this nonsense.

[Class71]

I would be surprised if MU takes him given the apparent directional change of the school. I do not know his past but if it is "checked", as some suggest, I would hold out little hope. Be prepared for the worst and hope for the best. It may be a very long season.

[muarmy81]

No, I don't know the details of the NCAA bylaws.  But a previous post you mentioned about him being brought into GRAD school and applying for a waiver.  This guy getting into MU grad school?  Please stop trying to rationalize this nonsense.

According to jeff Goodman he is eligible this year and there are high majors involved.  I think it might be worth to bring him in for one year. We could use the inside help especially first semester while Luke is out.

[ThatDude]

Is Wojo even looking for a extra body now that Mayo is gone?

[TedBaxter]

I would be surprised if MU takes him given the apparent directional change of the school. I do not know his past but if it is "checked", as some suggest, I would hold out little hope. Be prepared for the worst and hope for the best. It may be a very long season.

I'd be very, very surprised if Marquette becomes involved and I say that without knowing anything.  I think Wojo is going to try to build the team differently and I don't see Godfrey fitting the rebuilding.  Of the players I've seen MU offering in 2015, every one sported a GPA over 3.0.

Without high expectations, I look forward to the year and think it will be fun seeing the evolution under the new coaching staff.

[Jay Bee]

Is Wojo even looking for a extra body now that Mayo is gone?

I'd hope he's "open to the idea of", but not "looking for"..

Of the players I've seen MU offering in 2015, every one sported a GPA over 3.0.

wat

[TedBaxter]

wat

?.  I don't understand what you are saying or asking?

[Jay Bee]

?.  I don't understand what you are saying or asking?

You have the grades of all the kids MU has offered? Or did you read what a couple of GPA's are said to be?

I'm saying the assertion that MU is interested only in offering kids with a GPA of 3.0 or better based on actual knowledge you have is wat-able. Also.. we are apparently talking about a college graduate here...

[TedBaxter]

Sorry.  Guess I'm not in your league. 

[Jay Bee]

Sorry.  Guess I'm not in your league. 

Doesn't have anything to do with me. Just asking for some context / basis for your suggestion that MU is only offering 3.0 GPA kids. "Of the players I've seen MU offering in 2015"... don't know what that means. Maybe it means Matt and one other player. Maybe it means 20+ kids.. don't know what you've seen or how you got their GPA.

[TedBaxter]

Fair enough. 

Yes, the GPA's for Cheatham and about 4 of the guards I've seen them involved with have GPA's over 3.0.  Does that mean every recruit?  No.  Just the one's I've been able to find GPA's listed on the internet stories and could they be wrong?  Sure.

As I said before, I don't feel Godfrey is someone Wojo is going to go after and I'll admit I could be wrong.

[keefe]

Doesn't have anything to do with me. Just asking for some context / basis for your suggestion that MU is only offering 3.0 GPA kids. "Of the players I've seen MU offering in 2015"... don't know what that means. Maybe it means Matt and one other player. Maybe it means 20+ kids.. don't know what you've seen or how you got their GPA.

I think you are wrong, BJ. I have it on good authority that the hiring of Wojo was orchestrated by a still very much involved Larry Williams as part of a plan to turn Marquette into Duke Light. Wojo is a Freemason and has links to the Trilateral Commission - as do Mike Brey, Coach K, and Kevin White. None of this is coincidence.

[ThatDude]

Looks like Mr Calvin will be headed to Connecticut.  Yall sure we dont want him?

[Jay Bee]

As I said before, I don't feel Godfrey is someone Wojo is going to go after and I'll admit I could be wrong.

On that we agree. That is, my feel is Wojo would pass. I'd just hope he'd consider for at least a minute or two. And I don't think he would pass because of an analysis of Godfrey's GPA (which may or may not be a cumulative 3.0).

Who knows.. it's only August 2... something else could happen in the next few weeks. If not, stay healthy Big Steve! Make your mark Young Juan!

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Love the stat line, but am concerned about the red flags. Being associated with four different colleges up to this point is less than ideal.

As a fan, I hope Wojo will at least look at and talk to the kid. I would also hope that Wojo would pass if he didn't think this kid was right for our team.

[muhoops1]

Mark Miller is saying UCONN

[bilsu]

I already have in my mind that this season is really about preparing for next season. That is why it did not bother me that Mayo is not coming back. Now the time Mayo would of got most likely falls to Duane and JJJ. Getting another big would be nice, but I am happy were we are at right now and do not want any new problem players.

[keefe]

Mark Miller is saying UCONN

Well, if he signs with UCONN then we likely passed due to character issues

[wadesworld]

Well, if he signs with UCONN then we likely passed due to character issues

+1

[NYeagle]

Here's a question...

If Marquette has a rough beginning to the upcoming season, will it have an impact on the decision of Ellenson or Stone?

Calvin Godfrey would unquestionably provide desperately needed rebounding and toughness on a team that has some pretty talented guards and wings. And if he can keep us competitive before the conference games begin, it may help with those players looking to make a decision in November. 17 year olds do get affected if the team they were considering is doing badly.

Additionally, Godfrey, Fischer, Taylor, and Anderson would be a fine front court for the tough conference schedule.

Lastly, I have no problem helping a local kid return to his roots if he is trying to make a serious change in his life. If Wojo sees that, then it's worth a shot.

[tower912]

The expectations for next year's team are low, outside some more optimistic MU fans.   As long as the team competes and progresses, it shouldn't hurt the recrutiment of Ellenson or stone.   If Wojo simply doesn't have it, it will negatively affect recruiting. 

[Jay Bee]

Here's a question...

If Marquette has a rough beginning to the upcoming season, will it have an impact on the decision of Ellenson or Stone?

The most likely answer is, "no, it will have zero impact on their decision."

The early signing period begins before the official start of the season. Stone may try to keep things quiet until the first day of that signing period; I think we'll hear from Henry much earlier. Regardless, I find it very likely they will have both signed an NLI with a school by the time the NCAA regular season begins on November 14.

(PS - my expectations aren't low!)

[77ncaachamps]

Well, if he signs with UCONN then we likely passed due to character issues

[River rat]

I find it ironic that a large majority of posters said, in essence  , " good riddance" to todd mayo leaving yet a majority of posters then post that we could use this guy.  

[MU82]

Given that UConn has made this discussion moot, I will say that if he were still available I'd want Wojo to at least give Godfrey serious, serious consideration.

Aren't there detractors out there about Carlino, too?

It would be a one-year thing, just as it will be for Godfrey. Worst-case scenario: It ended up being a bad fit and a season that probably wasn't going to be glorious anyway goes down the tubes. Best-case scenario: Godfrey's troubles were overstated, he brings exactly the toughness and rebounding MU lacks, and the team has a surprisingly good season.

I'd have rolled the dice - or at least looked into the possibility of rolling the dice.

[esotericmindguy]

I find it ironic that a large majority of posters said, in essence  , " good riddance" to todd mayo leaving yet a majority of posters then post that we could use this guy.  

Plenty to guards, 1 front line player to start the season. Team is better off without mayo, going to be a rough season regardless, why waste minutes.

That said, Wojo won't be taking any character issue guys with his first class. 

[LA]

Being associated with four different colleges up to this point is less than ideal.

You mean like Carlino?

I'm not saying their circumstances aren't different, frankly none of us really know; but if that concerns you then take a look at our potential starting PG.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

You mean like Carlino?

I'm not saying their circumstances aren't different, frankly none of us really know; but if that concerns you then take a look at our potential starting PG.

Carlino decommitted from one, and voluntarily transferred from two others. Making us his fourth. That is very different from being kicked off one, failing to qualify for another, having academic issues at a juco, and voluntarily transferring from the fourth.

But as I said in an earlier post, I would hope that Wojo would at least check the kid out and even talk to him. If the kid was geniunly looking for another shot, and Wojo believed him, I would be happy with the pickup.

[keefe]

I would be happy with the pickup.

They're all beautiful at bar time and my clock says it's 0155...

[bilsu]

Carlino decommitted from one, and voluntarily transferred from two others. Making us his fourth. That is very different from being kicked off one, failing to qualify for another, having academic issues at a juco, and voluntarily transferring from the fourth.

But as I said in an earlier post, I would hope that Wojo would at least check the kid out and even talk to him. If the kid was geniunly looking for another shot, and Wojo believed him, I would be happy with the pickup.

Does anyone else find it ironic that people on this board see Carlino decommiting from playing for Tom Crean as a negative?

[Jay Bee]

Memphis it is, apparently

[79Warrior]

Mark Miller is saying UCONN

He be wrong.