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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: real chili 83 on August 12, 2015, 10:21:59 AM
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Haukar livers on the menu today. Best served on a tortilla chip with some Sonoran Salsa.
Early STOG call....D Wilson.
First step towards our E8 appointment in March.
GO WARRIORS!!!!!!!
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HENBA=SOG
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No SoG when we lose....
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Fischy Fisch SOTG, but player who does the most without being noticed in the box score = Traci Carter.
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Starting lineup prediction?
Me: Luke, Henry, JJJ, Duane, Traci.
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Don't sleep on Sandy. I'm excited to see what the extra weight does for his game. I'm ready. Lets go!
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How long until Willie gets on here and starts complaining about how bad all the new guys are?
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Don't sleep on Sandy. I'm excited to see what the extra weight does for his game. I'm ready. Lets go!
I'm saying 6th man Sandy. I like the ring of that.
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Starting lineup prediction?
Luke, Heldt, Henry, Sandy, Duane
Come on Team Beef!
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Luke, Heldt, Henry, Sandy, Duane
Come on Team Beef!
I know you're kidding but there's NFW. Fouls and all.
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Stream up for anyone?
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Starting lineup prediction?
Me: Luke, Henry, JJJ, Duane, Traci.
Twitter Tracker
@MarquetteMBB 10m10 minutes ago
#mubb starters vs. Haukar: Carter, Wilson, H. Ellenson, Cohen III, Fischer.
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Not yet. C'mon. I want me some Broeker pre-game commentary. 'We're going to work hard and be real good. But what do I do with my hands?'
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Twitter Tracker
@MarquetteMBB 10m10 minutes ago
#mubb starters vs. Haukar: Carter, Wilson, H. Ellenson, Cohen III, Fischer.
Good for Sandy!
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Is there a stream somewhere? MU's Twitter says it's going to be live on YouTube, but there's no link.
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Is there a stream somewhere? MU's Twitter says it's going to be live on YouTube, but there's no link.
Look at the top of Hanging at the Al
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Stream is working for me.
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Took 30 seconds for the announcer to mess up. Marquette Golden Bears.
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I'm soooo happy right now
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This is the Youtube Link: http://bit.ly/1KXgbrz
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Look at the top of Hanging at the Al
Derp.
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Looks like a church gym!
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Still with the practice uniforms?
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Still with the practice uniforms?
Yeah they are wearing them all trip.
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Is NERS playing?
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This is so exciting! Go Warriors!!
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Golden Bears again.
I actually like it more than Eagles!!
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Golden Bears again.
I actually like it more than Eagles!!
I was thinking the same thing
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Did the roof just cave in?
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Feels crazy to be watching a Marquette game in early August :o
Let's go Marquette!
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732 watching right now on YouTube - not exactly stellar numbers!
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732 watching right now on YouTube - not exactly stellar numbers!
Ha-ha what did you expect?
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Way too dramatic a national anthem for a country like Iceland. I was expecting something from the Frozen soundtrack.
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Marotta sure is a short ballplayer.
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No idea what to expect from this game. It's a professional team, but not sure how they compare to guys like Fischer, Duane, and Ellenson, who you would think would all be stars if they played in the lower European leagues.
EDIT: Starters are Fischer, Henry, Duane, Sandy, and Traci.
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732 watching right now on YouTube - not exactly stellar numbers!
Bigger numbers than FS2
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Like what I see from Tra Carter in the first few possessions. He's quick and I like how he keeps his head up, looking for teammates.
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732 watching right now on YouTube - not exactly stellar numbers!
Um, yeah, some of us have to work for a living.
Oh, to be a welfare queen so that I could watch the game....
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Sandy's release point is still too low. Traci Carter is going to be good.
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Always nice to see officials in yellow t-shirts and shorts.
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I'm digging the Marquette Golden Bears.
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Some sloppy passes in traffic so far. Worked well on the Carter assist, but otherwise just turning it over. Wondering how the range is impacting the team. Need to close out further, also shooting from further. 0/3 for us from 3 so far, I believe Haukar (used to this line) is 2/3.
EDIT: 3/4 now for Haukar from deep.
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Traci has looked pretty solid.
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I'm digging the Marquette Golden Bears.
I'm surprised Broeker hasn't corrected him. Or, maybe he's written a little note, but the other guy just can't help himself.
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I'm liking the new TC already.
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Burn those shoes. Bad luck and ugly.
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Very poor passing.
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Very ticky tack calls, but you have to move your feet.
Is "The Philly Kid" a good nickname for TC?
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Are the announcers coming in each on separate channels? I'm only wearing one headphone and can only hear one guy talking.
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We're basically losing to my rec league team right now.
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Henry needs to move his feet a lot better on D.
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Refs gotta let them play a bit. Of course there's going to be contact, it's preseason. Gotta let some of it go.
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Are the announcers coming in each on separate channels? I'm only wearing one headphone and can only hear one guy talking.
Yeah. It's weird. And they talk at the same time a lot.
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Traci Carter looks good so far. Has some range, can pass in traffic, keeps his head up at all times, nice handle, and good ability to pick up speed. Still making some freshman mistakes, but he looks very solid. Also has a very college-ready physique. Surprised how strong he looks for a true freshman.
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Always nice to see officials in yellow t-shirts and shorts.
Those 3 refs look to all be 22 years old.
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"The Golden Eagle flying through the Roman air!"
Love this guy
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Looks like a church gym!
I was thinking more of a lodge in the Rockies.
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I'm a fan of Traci. What a novel concept to have a PG that can create for others and shoot.
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Also, Carter looks absolutely fearless. Probably my favorite quality in the limited minutes so far.
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Crap. I don't think anyone realized that calling Traci Carter - TC - might create mass hysteria. It's Hiroshima all over again.
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Burn those shoes. Bad luck and ugly.
Can't win when on International YouTube, non e?
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Is this Creighton? why take a two when you can take a three?
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Haukar clearly the better team so far, which makes sense since we've never played together. Way too much iso ball for MU
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30 to 23. But the scoreboard reads 28 to 22
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Traci by far has been the bright spot. However, I have loved Luke's defensive help
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I'd say that Luke has been the most solid. Nothing exceptional but making some nice passes and good power moves under the basket. Playing like he's been there.
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Marquette's offense struggling to get the ball down low without Fischer. Haukar definitely packing it in. We'll need to be able to hit threes, because I have a feeling with those two down low we'll be pounding the paint quite a bit.
Free throw shooting not helping us either, I believe we're 5/10, splitting every opportunity.
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Haukar reminds me of Uw-Madison. Traditions in red who luv the backdoor
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I see what you did there ;)
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Haukar reminds me of Uw-Madison. Traditions in red who luv the backdoor
Backdoor cuts and Jump Shooting that's all the are doing
But yes Madison luuuuuvs the backdoor
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No Matt Heldt yet? And not too much Jajuan?
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Haukar livers on the menu today. Best served on a tortilla chip with some Sonoran Salsa.
Early STOG call....D Wilson.
First step towards our E8 appointment in March.
GO WARRIORS!!!!!!!
The Salsa better kick in during the second half. A loot of traveling calls so far.
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who luv the backdoor
I see what you did there
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So who starts the "Need to practice free throws" thread this afternoon?
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Liked that Henry push a lot.
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They have John Belushi out on the court! We can't lose to these guys!
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Backdoor cuts and Jump Shooting that's all the are doing
But yes Madison luuuuuvs the backdoor
But we aren't stopping it. And free throw shooting has been horrendous. Was HE 0/2 on that last trip to the stripe? I believe we are 6/14 from the line. Missed at least one every trip.
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Haukar absolutely believes in the least efficient shot in basketball
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Duane!
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They have John Belushi out on the court! We can't lose to these guys!
Are we playing the Germans???
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Whoa. 8-0 run in, what, 20 seconds?
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Ugh, ugh, ugh.
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Whoa. 8-0 run in, what, 20 seconds?
OK guys, what's the score. I am in an airplane high above Wyoming right now.
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Trailing 43-37 at the half, but Marquette finishes the half on a 10-4 run to cut the lead in half. Included a 6-point trip that saw Duane score on a drive, steal the ensuing inbound and score again, draw a foul, then after missing the FT (ugh, 6/15 in the half?) Luke got a putback.
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Nice flurry there at the end of the half. Could be winning if we knocked down free throws.
Henry looks a bit overmatched. Traci looks pretty good. Duane looks good.
Defense needs improvement. It got better towards the end, but way too many open layups off of backdoor and flex cuts for a 10 minute stretch there.
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A little surprised Heldt hasn't seen the floor yet.
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Off topic-
For you long toothed fellas
Was John Ellenson a good shooter/physically tough?
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Who's #32?
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Not disappointed in Henry so far but he doesn't quite look like any of those guys you'd see at Kentucky. I knew he wasn't gonna be Trey Lyles or Jahlil Okafor but he seems to be struggling with the physicality down low.
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Thanks Brew
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Who's #32?
The new Tom Crean.
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Haven't been able to watch the game being stuck at work, but it looks like people should've listened to me when I said Traci Carter would be just fine running the show. The kid is very good. Had he not been injured for the entire most important evaluation period, he would've been a top 60 kid.
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Who's #32?
Traci Carter. Looked fantastic so far. Can drive, distribute, shoot from range, and flashed some defense. Great physical build for a true freshman. I'm very excited to watch this kid the next four years.
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Is this announcer Hans or Franz?
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The new Tom Crean.
I thought I saw #21 too, thanks for the clarification.
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Think our president needs to work on public speaking and body language. Needs to project confidence and strength.
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Only scholly guy not to play has been Matt. I'd say I've been impressed by Luke, Duane and Traci. Iceland looks like a team that's played together a long time. We look like we've had 10 practices.
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Think our president needs to work on public speaking and body language. Needs to project confidence and strength.
Believe it or not he's actually really improved in the last year.
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Considering the first time playing together as a team, the European ball/rules, not a terrible showing. Improved as they got closer to the end of the half.
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Really don't like the lack of air conditioning in the building. Wet spots, players are slipping.
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Alright here we go. Big 3 Sandy.
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Have they shown a box score at all? Any things in particular standing out (beyond the poor free throw shooting)?
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Carter!!!!!!
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Not a big fan of Henry dribbling after securing a rebound. High, loose dribble.
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Really don't like the lack of air conditioning in the building. Wet spots, players are slipping.
Welcome to Europe
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Great PG play
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Fischy Fisch SOTG, but player who does the most without being noticed in the box score = Traci Carter.
Call me Nostradamus.
Does this game count towards the game prediction contest?
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Have they shown a box score at all? Any things in particular standing out (beyond the poor free throw shooting)?
Traci. Confident, good ball handler, passer, knocked down a couple of threes. Good instincts on defense. Has lost his man a couple of times off the ball but also some steals leading to breaks
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It was a 19-4 run that gave Marquette a 46-43 lead after trailing by 12, but Haukar answers with a 6-0 run of their own.
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I echo the rest of the board in saying that Traci Carter is really impressing me.
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We're playing much better.
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Anyone have a sense of how much JjJ has played? Haven't seen him but once.
Sandy has really improved from last year so far, getting the minutes associated with it.
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Note, this game is what it would have looked like had we played on that aircraft carrier
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Floor getting real slick. Dangerous.
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MU down 60-54. Floor must be a mess.
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Hope nobody gets hurt on that slippery court! Players are falling all over the place.
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Note, this game is what it would have looked like had we played on that aircraft carrier
Yeah, the floor is terrible. Lots of slipping and sliding. Someone get the guys skates, might help with the traction.
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Biggest take away from this game so far....Traci isn't scared to shoot the 3. At all.
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Each player must shoot 1,000 free throws!!! >:( >:( >:(
;)
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These missed free throws are getting out of hand. Contagious.
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Wojo with the technical. Complaining that Luke was fouled going to the hoop (no call).
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Anyone have a sense of how much JjJ has played? Haven't seen him but once.
Sandy has really improved from last year so far, getting the minutes associated with it.
I've been hit and miss with watching. Has JjJ played more than that one time?
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Have to say, if not for lack of FT practice and Higgins level officiating, we'd be winning and this team looks better than I expected.
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Who is the American announcer?
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Who is the American announcer?
Mike Broeker
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I've been hit and miss with watching. Has JjJ played more than that one time?
Very little. He's back in now for the end of the third quarter.
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Win or lose, I have to say I am very impressed with the way the team looks. Ellenson will be an absolute beast if he stays longer than one year.
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Come on MU, fourth quarter rally!
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JJJ really not good enough to be ahead of sandy or anim? Cmon he was ranked so high
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The Engine, Traci Carter. I like that one!
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Gotta say, I love Ellenson running the break. Also like Traci's nickname. This international announcer is great, kind of annoying that Broeker interrupts him sometimes.
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I know I'm a broken record but this floor is a joke.
This game should be stopped.
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How long are the quarters?
Looking forward to watching this at home after work. Sounds like people are fairly pleased with the play so far. Also sounds like we are playing a team that was worth the trip in terms of competition level.
So far it sounds like Traci and to a lesser extent Cohen are playing above expectations, Hank and JJJ below expectations, and the others about where they are expected?
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This floor is bad, hope we get out without any injuries.
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Best thing bout this game so far is, Henry Ellenson's behind the back dribble ;D
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This floor is absolutely awful. Watching Luke go down like that had me really worried. I sincerely hope the other gyms they play in are air conditioned. This is ridiculous. Someone's going to get hurt.
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End the game. This is ridiculous
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That's ridiculous. That's all we need is for someone to tear an ACL or something on this floor.
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We're finally getting our Air craft carrier game.
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god d#$^ Fischer nearly died....that coulda been really bad
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How long are the quarters?
Looking forward to watching this at home after work. Sounds like people are fairly pleased with the play so far. Also sounds like we are playing a team that was worth the trip in terms of competition level.
So far it sounds like Traci and to a lesser extent Cohen are playing above expectations, Hank and JJJ below expectations, and the others about where they are expected?
Henry has really improved in the 2nd half. Agree with the rest.
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Luke goes down hard on a breakaway. Looks like he is okay. Fell on flat his back but they're saying he didn't hit his head.
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Just saw JjJ's shot after that whistle. It looked pretty good.
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So slick out there.
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People are having plant feet go out from under them all too often. Cohen just got juked out by having his plant foot slide.
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Really don't like the lack of air conditioning in the building. Wet spots, players are slipping.
I have been in Europe during the summer...it can be...eye watering...
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Henry has really improved in the 2nd half. Agree with the rest.
Outstanding. I have no doubt he'll be one of our 3 best players this year (with Luke and Duane, and with Traci being really solid at PG). He's still 18, he'll have a bad half and a bad game here or there, but he is very legit.
How long are these quarters?
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Also regarding the floor, I play on Mondays at a gym that isn't air conditioned and when it gets slick playing defense is the worst. You trust absolutely nothing and get blown by so easily. So tentative. I'd guess some of the players on each team feel the same way.
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Also regarding the floor, I play on Mondays at a gym that isn't air conditioned and when it gets slick playing defense is the worst. You trust absolutely nothing and get blown by so easily. So tentative. I'd guess some of the players on each team feel the same way.
Yea, they've eased up this quarter it looks like. 10 minute quarters.
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Duane with a nice three...! Announcer calls him Henry Wilson.
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Man, MU has given up so many offensive rebounds.
Overall, though, I'm impressed and the belief in the potential of this team is reaffirmed. As are some concerns about growing pains.
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Yea, they've eased up this quarter it looks like. 10 minute quarters.
Thanks.
Can I have a score update please?
Also, has Wally seen much time?
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HENRY!!!
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Thanks.
Can I have a score update please?
Also, has Wally seen much time?
Henry just scored and is going to the line, Marquette trails 74-70 with 5:28 to play and Hank at the line.
EDIT: Missed the FT
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Ok Henry running the break is officially amazing!!!
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DUANNE!!! THREE!!
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Duane with a block that is recovered by Henry. Ellenson leads the break and finds Wilson on the outlet for a three to bring MU within 74-73. 4:35 left to play.
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Duane is going to be good.
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We Are!
Looking like some good heart being shown in the last minutes here, especially since they are apparently playing hockey!
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Duane with another three! MU trails 74-73 with 4:35 left in the game.
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Ellenson looks like he's gonna be an and-1 machine. Good speed to drive it up the floor and get contact and the length to finish after.
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Cut it to 1, with a 3 by DW.
(1371 people watching on YouTube now!!)
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I have been in Europe during the summer...it can be...eye watering...
I HAVEN'T SEEN A FLOOR LIKE THIS SINCE AN AFTER HOURS PARTY AT BABES!
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Duane with a block that is recovered by Henry. Ellenson leads the break and finds Wilson on the outlet for a three to bring MU within 74-73. 4:35 left to play.
Thanks much. Sounds like Wojo knew what he was doing when he advised Hank to lead the break when he gets a board/loose ball.
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Haukar answers Duane with a three of their own, but he fires back to make it 77-76. 4:14 left to play, Marquette ball.
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Heat check for Duane.
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DW!!! Huge! Two straight 3's
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What is our FT% so far? Can't be above 40%
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Heat check for Duane.
Joining your parents now?
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What is our FT% so far? Can't be above 40%
It's bad. Better in the fourth quarter, though.
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Mop crew's gotta be out of towels by now.
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Nice to see MU having no problem with the 24 second clock. They can score the ball - unlike their issues last year.
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Duane is going to be good.
FIFY
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MU up one with 3:22 left.
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All things considered win or lose, I'm very happy with the team. Jet lag, wet floor, first time playing together, EU rules and a 24 second clock and still playing competitively.
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Tied, two to play
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This team looks to have a lot of potential. Duane could be a star this year. He's good. Henry is just solid inside, as is Fischer. And Traci Carter looks excellent for a freshman. Strong finish in this game, though Haukar just tied it at 80. Good game, planning to watch it again. Free throws have been brutal, if we were hitting even 70% we'd be handily ahead.
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Long rebounds have really killed us. They've led to at least 5-6 threes
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All things considered win or lose, I'm very happy with the team. Jet lag, wet floor, first time playing together, EU rules and a 24 second clock and still playing competitively.
Agreed, 100%. And whoa... we made two straight FT's..
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Any thoughts on Wally at all?
How is the other team? Better than some BE teams we'll see?
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Still no Heldt? And not as much JJ as I'd have expected. Once Cheatham is back, does JJ slide down the bench even more?
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DW, Hank E., and Fischer just became best friends I think...
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Turn out the lights....the party's over
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MU up 7 with 0:48 left!
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Strong finish. MU by 7 with :30. Get this damn thing over with.
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DW, Hank E., and Fischer just became best friends I think...
And with TC, that's quite a foursome.
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What a great comeback, great D
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Marquette with their second big run of the game. Leading 87-80 with 29 seconds to play after Haukar looked in control just 5 minutes ago. This is a 22-6 run for Marquette. Duane and Henry have been immense down the stretch. Absolutely huge.
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Sorry if this has been answered... why is Haanif in a polo?
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This game was way better than I expected. The crunch time minutes are so helpful. This game is way more constructive than Creighton's where they blew out their opponent by 60. Also, I bet our confidence is soaring after this one! Way to go MU!!!!!!
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Sorry if this has been answered... why is Haanif in a polo?
Not allowed to play this trip due to weird NCAA rules
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Sorry if this has been answered... why is Haanif in a polo?
Hasn't been cleared by the NCAA yet.
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Hopefully better courts for other games. This is downright dangerous.
Exciting to see the individual talent on the floor. Ceiling is high with this group, though a long way to go given the inexperience. Going to be fun to watch them develop. Henry will create so many match up problems for opponenets.
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And with TC, that's quite a foursome.
Very right! Good point! That is a pretty great foursome, I'm wicked happy with this game.
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OMG!!!!!!!!
May be premature but......
WE'RE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Final - MU 89 - Haukar 82
29-16 run to end the game.
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Outstanding. Sounds like this game alone may have been worth the entire experience. Here's to hoping for 3 more competitive games (with safer floors).
I'll stick to my 7 seed prediction. But after actually watching this game, I might be moving it up.
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So entertaining. A reminder of how much I miss MU basketball. Two observations:
1. I forgot how good Wilson can be.
2. Listening to these two announcers talk over each other the entire 2nd half had me cracking up. It just sounded so funny.
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Still no Heldt? And not as much JJ as I'd have expected. Once Cheatham is back, does JJ slide down the bench even more?
Heldt was in there in the 3rd quarter, had a really nice lefty hook for his first 2
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So entertaining. A reminder of how much I miss MU basketball. Two observations:
1. I forgot how good Wilson can be.
2. Listening to these two announcers talk over each other the entire 2nd half had me cracking up. It just sounded so funny.
I like the German guy. It was Broker interrupting him most of the time which was kind of obnoxious.
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JJJ really not good enough to be ahead of sandy or anim? Cmon he was ranked so high
Well maybe we just need to come to the conclusion that he isn't as good as we think.
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OMG!!!!!!!!
May be premature but......
WE'RE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Believe it or not he's actually really improved in the last year.
Missed the interview. Thought the new prez was supposed to be a slick talking fundraiser guy.
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Final Four or bust
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They're interviewing Duane now (paraphrasing):
Haukar is a pro team thats been together a long time.
We won the third and fourth quarter.
Valuable experience. We need to continue to get better.
Coach told me I need to lead.
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Will be very interested to see how Haukar does in there upcoming game against Georgetown, I actually thought they were very solid.
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Will be very interested to see how Haukar does in there upcoming game against Georgetown, I actually thought they were very solid.
Of course, G-Town now has a scouting report on Haukar.
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Any thoughts on Wally at all?
Wally fouled out in the third quarter. All ticky tack fouls. Solid on defense. Nothing on offense
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This team might be really frickin good. Carter looked comfortable at PG, and wasn't afraid to shoot the three. That alone is going to open up things in the middle. Luke looked healthy and strong. The baby hook is a beautiful thing. Duane is the captain of this team, and considering his a RS SO, that makes me giddy. Henry is going to be special (did he play the whole game?), I will just leave it at that. Sandy looked quite a bit stronger.
All in all, I was quite impressed, especially considering no Hannif, who I think will be one of better players.
Lets fu**in' goooo...is it November yet?
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Will be very interested to see how Haukar does in there upcoming game against Georgetown, I actually thought they were very solid.
Agreed. They're a well prepared, pro team. This took an outstanding late effort by the Warriors.
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Thoughts...
- Duane was a star today. Hopefully he can put together a season like this, he was a bit mercurial last season. We need him to be consistently good.
- Henry is a talent. The word for his offense is smooth. Needs to box out better, but he does a good job of controlling rebounds. Uses his arms well to secure the ball high.
- Traci Carter was very good, the bright spot for me. I liked the nickname the foreign announcer gave him, "The Engine". Feels apropos.
- Free throws were horrible. But improved as the game went on.
- The floor was awful. Seriously dangerous out there. Felt the game was slipping away in more ways than one before that late run.
- Hard to know how significant this is. Haukar looked competitive, but it seems like they're a mid-level Icelandic team. Not exactly a marquee league. Good for the team, but hard to say how good.
- Second half was much better. Marquette gave up a lot of back door cuts, second chances, and open threes early. Improved quite a bit later. After losing the first two quarters, they tied in the third and really dominated the last 5 minutes of the fourth.
- Sandy looks improved. Still starts his shot too low, but hit some threes, showed his strength, and was overall fairly effective.
- Fischer was solid. Yeoman's effort today. Him and Hank will be a load together.
- Of the bench players, Sacar Anim looks like he'll get early minutes, possibly ahead of JJJ and Wally. Had some freshman mistakes, but plays hard, decent defense, and lots of energy.
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This team might be really frickin good. Carter looked comfortable at PG, and wasn't afraid to shoot the three. That alone is going to open up things in the middle. Luke looked healthy and strong. The baby hook is a beautiful thing. Duane is the captain of this team, and considering his a RS SO, that makes me giddy. Henry is going to be special (did he play the whole game?), I will just leave it at that. Sandy looked quite a bit stronger.
All in all, I was quite impressed, especially considering no Hannif, who I think will be one of better players.
Lets fu**in' goooo...is it November yet?
+1
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Any thoughts on Wally at all?
How is the other team? Better than some BE teams we'll see?
Right after Wojo got extremely fired up and you could hear him yelling on the broadcast, Wally was the one who came out most fired up. On the next play he had defensive intensity and was scurrying around everywhere. Got a few cheap foul calls but at the least looks like a great energy guy. He had one shot around the basket that was a bit wild.
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This is how I expect the Belmont game to go.
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Thoughts...
- Duane was a star today. Hopefully he can put together a season like this, he was a bit mercurial last season. We need him to be consistently good.
- Henry is a talent. The word for his offense is smooth. Needs to box out better, but he does a good job of controlling rebounds. Uses his arms well to secure the ball high.
- Traci Carter was very good, the bright spot for me. I liked the nickname the foreign announcer gave him, "The Engine". Feels apropos.
- Free throws were horrible. But improved as the game went on.
- The floor was awful. Seriously dangerous out there. Felt the game was slipping away in more ways than one before that late run.
- Hard to know how significant this is. Haukar looked competitive, but it seems like they're a mid-level Icelandic team. Not exactly a marquee league. Good for the team, but hard to say how good.
- Second half was much better. Marquette gave up a lot of back door cuts, second chances, and open threes early. Improved quite a bit later. After losing the first two quarters, they tied in the third and really dominated the last 5 minutes of the fourth.
- Sandy looks improved. Still starts his shot too low, but hit some threes, showed his strength, and was overall fairly effective.
- Fischer was solid. Yeoman's effort today. Him and Hank will be a load together.
- Of the bench players, Sacar Anim looks like he'll get early minutes, possibly ahead of JJJ and Wally. Had some freshman mistakes, but plays hard, decent defense, and lots of energy.
Spot on. And let's remember that we've had 10 practices. This team can be pretty good. The talent level ls light years ahead of last year. The ONLY position that may drop off somewhat is Carlino > Sandy. The other 4 are significantly stronger even here in August.
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I'm not gonna get too excited one way or another. First time meshing for the guys.
Carter looked more than solid against mediocre white dudes, which is good.
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I thought most of the comments were spot on. I wouldn't give up on JJJ just yet. He's going to have some good games this year. I'd bet on it. Hopefully he can be more consistent throughout the year and be a major contributor.
I'm not worried about the free throws just yet. Let's not also forget they played in a hot/wet gym, new basketball, and a 24 second shot clock. That's some adjustment for a team that has only a few practices under their belt.
I don't feel that team was very good but we definitely have LOTS of potential and good way to start the season. Especially seeing how some of the guys stepped up in crunch time. But I am still going into season with tempered expectations.
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I'm not gonna get too excited one way or another. First time meshing for the guys.
This.
The encouraging thing I take from this is they were gassed by the end of it, and still closed strong. Henry looked like he was gonna pass out in the fourth quarter but kept making plays.
It's also really good that they played a team that could shoot it. Exposed their flaws on defense, which led to offensive boards. The coaches can point these things out on film easily.
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Anyone know when the G-town Haukar game is? Livestream? Would be interesting to see how likely tourney team matches up with haukar.
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This.
The encouraging thing I take from this is they were gassed by the end of it, and still closed strong. Henry looked like he was gonna pass out in the fourth quarter but kept making plays.
It's also really good that they played a team that could shoot it. Exposed their flaws on defense, which led to offensive boards. The coaches can point these things out on film easily.
Agreed, love the one on one defensive pressure but rotations were rough when they got bumped off of screens. Also, this is the tallest MU team in decades, there's should not be that many offensive rebounds.
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I thought Haukar played VERY well and is a talented, together team. Sure they're not full of top 100 American recruits but the fact that this group had been together so long had them playing Euro ball really well. They made very few mistakes and capitalized on our's. This was no gimme game and the Warriors really had to dig deep. Well earned victory and great building block.
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...This was no gimme game and the Warriors really had to dig deep...
You spelled "Golden Bears" wrong.
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I thought most of the comments were spot on. I wouldn't give up on JJJ just yet. He's going to have some good games this year. I'd bet on it. Hopefully he can be more consistent throughout the year and be a major contributor.
Well if we end up playing ASU we can count on at least one good game from JJJ
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Agreed, love the one on one defensive pressure but rotations were rough when they got bumped off of screens. Also, this is the tallest MU team in decades, there's should not be that many offensive rebounds.
At one point we ran out a lineup with Duane (6'2"), Anim (6'5"), Sandy (6'6"), Ellenson (6'10"), and Fischer (6'11"). That's some great size.
I also thought Haukar was a solid team. Not elite, but to compare them to our level of play, the kind of team that gets into the tournament as a 13/14 seed and gives some higher seed hell for 40 minutes. Great shooting team, spaced the floor well, and great on the back door cuts. Very fundamentally solid, though they did run out of gas at the end.
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I also thought Haukar was a solid team. Not elite, but to compare them to our level of play, the kind of team that gets into the tournament as a 13/14 seed and gives some higher seed hell for 40 minutes. Great shooting team, spaced the floor well, and great on the back door cuts. Very fundamentally solid, though they did run out of gas at the end.
So they're Davidson?
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At one point we ran out a lineup with Duane (6'2"), Anim (6'5"), Sandy (6'6"), Ellenson (6'10"), and Fischer (6'11"). That's some great size.
I also thought Haukar was a solid team. Not elite, but to compare them to our level of play, the kind of team that gets into the tournament as a 13/14 seed and gives some higher seed hell for 40 minutes. Great shooting team, spaced the floor well, and great on the back door cuts. Very fundamentally solid, though they did run out of gas at the end.
Belmont perhaps?
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And one of the best things about the game was that they came back, twice. They got some momentum, created stops and kept it going.
Overall, I've been hopeful for this season, given the level of individual talent on the team. This game, even accounting for lots of factors, gives me more optimism, given the way they played as a team (despite plenty of flaws on defense).
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So they're Davidson?
Belmont perhaps?
Both of those feel like good comparisons. Again, this is just going by the eye test (which I hate) but they did the little things right and didn't beat themselves. Teams like that can be tough for anyone to deal with when they are hitting their shots.
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what defenses were used? Zone or some man-to-man?
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Golden Bears.
Love it.
Would fit because the other Jordan brand school, Cal, are the Golden Bears.
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what defenses were used? Zone or some man-to-man?
I never saw them play zone. Not that they didn't, but I just didn't recall seeing it.
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At one point we ran out a lineup with Duane (6'2"), Anim (6'5"), Sandy (6'6"), Ellenson (6'10"), and Fischer (6'11"). That's some great size.
I also thought Haukar was a solid team. Not elite, but to compare them to our level of play, the kind of team that gets into the tournament as a 13/14 seed and gives some higher seed hell for 40 minutes. Great shooting team, spaced the floor well, and great on the back door cuts. Very fundamentally solid, though they did run out of gas at the end.
I think they looked better than a competitive low-major.
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I never saw them play zone. Not that they didn't, but I just didn't recall seeing it.
I agree. Don't think they played any zone, but I could be mistaken.
No surprise, really, given that Wojo would like to play more man to man, and Hauker is a 3-shooting team. Needed to play tighter in their faces to prevent open looks. I think if we had started in zone, we would've needed to switch to man very quickly.
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I agree. Don't think they played any zone, but I could be mistaken.
No surprise, really, given that Wojo would like to play more man to man, and Hauker is a 3-shooting team. Needed to play tighter in their faces to prevent open looks. I think if we had started in zone, we would've needed to switch to man very quickly.
Yeah, we were slow enough (especially early) closing out on threes, the last thing we needed was to give them space to just shoot over the zone, because they could have and would have.
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No zone that I saw. Our defensive rotations still need improvement but that's to be expected. When we were late, Haukar buried the shot until the very end when they're legs gave out.
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We played man to man exclusively. Haukar played mostly man but I think in the 3rd quarter switched to a 2-3 zone which I thought we handled pretty well....way better than we've handled it the last couple of seasons any way.
The other thing that has me giddy about this games results.....this is the type of team we can expect to play in Madison. This style was probably the one I thought we'd have the most trouble with. Haukar even got all the ticky tack calls the 12 year olds were calling, so it definitely felt like it was Madison....ya know, with the backdoor stuff and all.
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No zone that I saw. Our defensive rotations still need improvement but that's to be expected. When we were late, Haukar buried the shot until the very end when they're legs gave out.
Mostly it was on late close outs by Heldt, Ellenson, and Fischer, who aren't use to that type of thing. A lot of issues on ball screens (switch vs stay). That'll take some time to learn.
It's good to see we have some semblance of an offense and defense installed at this point of the season. :o ;D
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Outstanding. Sounds like this game alone may have been worth the entire experience. Here's to hoping for 3 more competitive games (with safer floors).
I'll stick to my 7 seed prediction. But after actually watching this game, I might be moving it up.
Maybe I'll bump it up to 6. We will finish somewhere between 3-5 in the BE, but I think by the end of the season we'll be the 2nd best team in the BE.