IDF targets and kills food aid workers

[Not A Serious Person]

While Columbia and UCLA have made the headlines recently, how come others - such as university of Chicago or Brown - have not?

If protests are peaceful, let them go.

If anyone is committing crimes, arrest them.

It's really that simple.

Free speech is not a crime.

Brown bought off the protestors, like Northwestern


Northwestern under fire — Jewish groups demand president's ouster, students file harassment suit
The backlash comes days after the university made an agreement with encampment organizers to take steps toward divesting from Israel.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/israel-hamas-war/2024/05/01/northwestern-under-fire-as-adl-midwest-calls-for-university-president-to-resign-3-students-file-suit

Days after reaching an agreement with organizers of a pro-Palestinian encampment, Northwestern University is facing heavy backlash -- with three Jewish organizations calling for the school’s president to resign.

And three Jewish students have filed suit against NU over the encampment, alleging they have been harassed and subjected to hateful rhetoric.

Organizers had established the encampment to express support for Palestinian people and to call on the university to cut financial ties with Israel.

They described Monday’s agreement as a “meaningful first step to divestment.” It requires the university administration to disclose information about any investments to those associated with the school and re-establishes a committee to advise on investments, a panel that will include student representation. The university also agreed to take steps to better support Palestinian students on campus and allow protests to continue until June 1.

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The University of Chicago and Dartmouth have been leaders in heading this off.

https://chicagomaroon.com/42286/news/university-administrators-respond-to-pro-palestine-encampment/

[Pakuni]

NO.

But I'm predicting with virtual certainty that there will be violence this year at the Convention in Chicago and I'm hoping television viewers take notice of who is instigating the violence and how it is or isn't being handled. That's all.

I guess I should keep in mind, though, there is no crime in Chicago.

You literally wrote that you were "hoping" for violence.

[21Jumpstreet]

UPenn asked the Philadelphia PD to help immediately dismantle the encampment. PPD refused saying Penn has to show the encampment showed imminent danger.

Edit: I am not there right now, texted my son earlier, he said it was loud and peaceful at that time.

[Not A Serious Person]

We are talking about two different things here. I am talking about an educational institution and that learning how to deal with opinions different than yours is part of what should form one's experience.

But by and large people should be allowed to peacefully assemble on public property. So if people want to peacefuly pray in front of an abortion clinic, that seems fine with me.  Why wouldn't it?

Seem fine to you?

February 2, 2024
https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2024/february/abortion-clinic-prolife-protestors-convicted.html

The six activists convicted in Tennessee this week argued they demonstrated peacefully, saying they were singing hymns and praying in a medical pavilion hallway outside the clinic. A police officer testified at the trial that the protestors were peaceful, according to The Tennessean, but they refused to leave. They were convicted of “obstructing access to reproductive health services.”

The protestors face longer prison sentences than in the past because prosecutors have added a civil rights conspiracy charge to the most recent batch of cases, which carries a maximum 10-year sentence.

“This ‘conspiracy to violate civil rights’ [charge]—it’s a new strategy the DOJ is using,” Calvin Zastrow, one of the pro-life protestors in Tennessee who is a Christian, told CT shortly after his conviction this week. He faces an 11-year sentence, but unlike defendants in other FACE cases, he and others in his case were not immediately taken into custody.

[Pakuni]

Seem fine to you?

February 2, 2024
https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2024/february/abortion-clinic-prolife-protestors-convicted.html

The six activists convicted in Tennessee this week argued they demonstrated peacefully, saying they were singing hymns and praying in a medical pavilion hallway outside the clinic.

They were on private property.

[Uncle Rico]

Pretzels make me thirsty

[MUBurrow]

This is not correct.

This is not correct.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Seem fine to you?

February 2, 2024
https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2024/february/abortion-clinic-prolife-protestors-convicted.html

The six activists convicted in Tennessee this week argued they demonstrated peacefully, saying they were singing hymns and praying in a medical pavilion hallway outside the clinic. A police officer testified at the trial that the protestors were peaceful, according to The Tennessean, but they refused to leave. They were convicted of “obstructing access to reproductive health services.”

The protestors face longer prison sentences than in the past because prosecutors have added a civil rights conspiracy charge to the most recent batch of cases, which carries a maximum 10-year sentence.

“This ‘conspiracy to violate civil rights’ [charge]—it’s a new strategy the DOJ is using,” Calvin Zastrow, one of the pro-life protestors in Tennessee who is a Christian, told CT shortly after his conviction this week. He faces an 11-year sentence, but unlike defendants in other FACE cases, he and others in his case were not immediately taken into custody.

The two examples cited here include one where entrances were blocked and another where they refused to leave private property.

Are you back to not reading what you post again?

[lawdog77]

Go ahead and dazzle us with your law degree.

JD 1994, Indiana University. Unlike your degree from the google school of law. Different jurisdictions have different definitions for assault and/or battery. I would venture to say all jurisdictions would agree that chanting from the river to the sea would not constitute an assault. The imminent harm element is not there.

[jesmu84]

JD 1994, Indiana University. Unlike your degree from the google school of law. Different jurisdictions have different definitions for assault and/or battery. I would venture to say all jurisdictions would agree that chanting from the river to the sea would not constitute an assault. The imminent harm element is not there.

L.O.L.

[Not A Serious Person]

They were on private property.

The two examples cited here include one where entrances were blocked and another where they refused to leave private property.

Are you back to not reading what you post again?

Maximum 10-year sentence. Are you sure these are not selective political prosecutions of "making people feel uncomfortable?"

https://thehill.com/homenews/ap/ap-u-s-news/ap-6-activists-convicted-of-illegally-blocking-abortion-clinic-in-tennessee/

Attorneys representing the defendants say they plan on appealing the convictions. The legal team has described the 2021 demonstration as a “peaceful life-affirming gathering” and has accused the federal justice department of prosecuting “pro-life activists” ever since the Supreme Court’s landmark 2022 abortion decision.

“This was a peaceful demonstration by entirely peaceable citizens — filled with prayer, hymn-singing, and worship — oriented toward persuading expecting mothers not to abort their babies,” said Steve Crampton, an attorney with the Thomas More Society.

Before Roe was overturned, the Justice Department oversaw just a handful of FACE Act violation cases. In 2021, just three cases involving three defendants were charged, and in 2020, the agency handled just one case.

By 2022, that number jumped to 11 cases involving 29 defendants. And last year, there were 10 cases and 22 defendants.

Advocates like the National Abortion Federation say the uptick in cases reflects the rise in harassment and violence abortion clinics have faced since state abortion bans have been allowed to go into effect.

In a 2022 report, the organization said abortion providers across the U.S. saw noticeable spikes in the number of death threats, stalkings, burglaries and arsons compared with the year prior.

Yet a growing number of conservative groups and Republican lawmakers have responded to these numbers by saying law enforcement has downplayed similar threats and violence against Catholic churches and so-called “crisis pregnancy centers,” which counsel against abortions.

[Not A Serious Person]

JD 1994, Indiana University. Unlike your degree from the google school of law. Different jurisdictions have different definitions for assault and/or battery. I would venture to say all jurisdictions would agree that chanting from the river to the sea would not constitute an assault. The imminent harm element is not there.

Jewish students disagree with your opinion.

He's one for you, counselor. Should she be arrested for assault?

If she was wearing a white hood and said, "KKK's next target," would that be assault?

[Jockey]

They committed a crime on private property and got punished for it.

Nothing special.

[Pakuni]

Maximum 10-year sentence. Are you sure these are not selective political prosecutions of "making people feel uncomfortable?"

[Jockey]

Jewish students disagree with your opinion.

He's one for you, counselor. Should she be arrested for assault?

If she was wearing a white hood and said, "KKK's next target," would that be assault?

If a law is not being broken, why would they be arrested.

[Pakuni]

Jewish students disagree with your opinion.

That's not how the law works.

He's one for you, counselor. Should she be arrested for assault?

If she was wearing a white hood and said, "KKK's next target," would that be assault?

No.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Maximum 10-year sentence. Are you sure these are not selective political prosecutions of "making people feel uncomfortable?"

https://thehill.com/homenews/ap/ap-u-s-news/ap-6-activists-convicted-of-illegally-blocking-abortion-clinic-in-tennessee/

Attorneys representing the defendants say they plan on appealing the convictions. The legal team has described the 2021 demonstration as a “peaceful life-affirming gathering” and has accused the federal justice department of prosecuting “pro-life activists” ever since the Supreme Court’s landmark 2022 abortion decision.

“This was a peaceful demonstration by entirely peaceable citizens — filled with prayer, hymn-singing, and worship — oriented toward persuading expecting mothers not to abort their babies,” said Steve Crampton, an attorney with the Thomas More Society.

Before Roe was overturned, the Justice Department oversaw just a handful of FACE Act violation cases. In 2021, just three cases involving three defendants were charged, and in 2020, the agency handled just one case.

By 2022, that number jumped to 11 cases involving 29 defendants. And last year, there were 10 cases and 22 defendants.

Advocates like the National Abortion Federation say the uptick in cases reflects the rise in harassment and violence abortion clinics have faced since state abortion bans have been allowed to go into effect.

In a 2022 report, the organization said abortion providers across the U.S. saw noticeable spikes in the number of death threats, stalkings, burglaries and arsons compared with the year prior.

Yet a growing number of conservative groups and Republican lawmakers have responded to these numbers by saying law enforcement has downplayed similar threats and violence against Catholic churches and so-called “crisis pregnancy centers,” which counsel against abortions.

Are you thinking that I’m going to dispute that we have too many laws on the books which cause prosecutors to often over-charge people? Because I whole-heartedly agree with that.

But you brought this up as some sort of “gotcha” to my point about protestors even though the situations aren’t the same. Again shifting goalposts. 

[Uncle Rico]

These pretzels are making me thirsty

[lawdog77]

Jewish students disagree with your opinion.

He's one for you, counselor. Should she be arrested for assault?

If she was wearing a white hood and said, "KKK's next target," would that be assault?

No iminent harm by silently holding a sign.

Do I agree with their message? No. Do they have the right to speak it? Yes.

[JWags85]

No iminent harm by silently holding a sign.

Do I agree with their message? No. Do they have the right to speak it? Yes.

Exactly, the majority of the extreme protesters are best typified as the UF president stated in his letter back in October…

“Our Constitution protects the rights of people to make abject idiots of themselves.“

The Columbia grad student giving a speech about needing “humanitarian aid”for fellow protesters or those claiming they are being starved are out of touch morons.  The cult of the oppressed who somehow feel the need to make themselves out to be persecuted in their protests to feel included are idiots….but none of them are breaking the law as a whole and our country has its foundation in allowing people to make fools of themselves for something they believe in, regardless of what it is. 

Don’t block streets, don’t forcefully barricade yourselves in public buildings to the detriment of others and complain when you’re removed, don’t assault or overly intimidate passerby’s…and then you can do whatever eye rolling performative nonsense your heart desires.

[jesmu84]

Jewish students disagree with your opinion.

Did you check with the Jewish students protesting on the pro-palestine side?

[Plaque Lives Matter!]

JD 1994, Indiana University. Unlike your degree from the google school of law. Different jurisdictions have different definitions for assault and/or battery. I would venture to say all jurisdictions would agree that chanting from the river to the sea would not constitute an assault. The imminent harm element is not there.

Mike Woodson sucks

[Plaque Lives Matter!]

Did you check with the Jewish students protesting on the pro-palestine side?

Those are just the pawns

[lawdog77]

Mike Woodson sucks

I am surprised they didnt hire Damon Bailey, or Pat Knight.

[4everwarriors]

The guy who blew 45 out of the water four years ago?  A lot of places apparently.

Were it not for the perfect covid storm, the Buffoon goes down quicker than the Hindenburg, aina?