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Author Topic: Creighton Barreling  (Read 13163 times)

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Re: Creighton Barreling
« Reply #75 on: February 25, 2016, 12:12:13 PM »
The announcers were terrible and made numerous mistakes.  When Henry got the technical they never seemed to point out that when he reached his hand behind his knee and caught Zierden's face it was because the ball was between his legs.  Henry kept explaining that to the ref and that's why it was such an awful call.  The announcers never made the point.  Then shortly after that Henry got tangled up with Groselle (I think) as he screened for the shooter and they both went down.  They described it as Henry just shoving Groselle down and I believe even mentioned that it could have been another flagrant foul.  Just awful lazy analysis that seemed pretty consistently pro-Creighton.

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Re: Creighton Barreling
« Reply #76 on: February 25, 2016, 12:21:18 PM »
Is there an announcer scoopers don't hate? Honestly the only one I can think of is Thomas Bilde and I think if we had to listen to him during real games where he has to be objective we'd hate him too.

Love Raft, Bilas, McDonough, actually didn't mind that former Rodent guard (can't recall name) who did a few games a couple seasons ago.

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Re: Creighton Barreling
« Reply #77 on: February 25, 2016, 12:21:53 PM »
How does Haanif not get to the line?
That dude needs to learn to feast from it!
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Re: Creighton Barreling
« Reply #78 on: February 25, 2016, 12:37:01 PM »
Love Raft, Bilas, McDonough, actually didn't mind that former Rodent guard (can't recall name) who did a few games a couple seasons ago.

Mike Kelly, and I thought he was great as well
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Re: Creighton Barreling
« Reply #79 on: February 25, 2016, 12:39:32 PM »
They had a good strategy in that the first half was pretty up tempo and I think wore us out a bit given our short bench with Sandy out and Luke and Traci in foul trouble.  Then late in the game they put on the full court press and went zone to force us to shoot long jumpers when we were dead tired.  Almost worked perfectly for them.
While I respect McDermott as a coach I doubt his switch to full court press was part of a pre-game strategy.  Creighton wasn't making their shots and then came out in the 2nd half and kept turning the ball over leading to easy MU baskets.  Creighton was on the verge of being blown out.  They had to do something.  So I think that McDermott out of desperation went to the full court zone trap and when you do that you typically go to a zone behind it.  It worked and Creighton was having such a tough time scoring that he kind of had to leave it on.  Due to the lack of experience at PG for MU I think some kind of press is almost always a good idea.  Even better considering that Traci picked up his 3rd foul in the first half.  I think the reason MU doesn't see more of this is that we tend to be behind and teams are less likely to use a high risk/high reward defense when they feel they already have the game going their way.  If this team gets better as they seem to be getting we may see more of this over the next games if we are ahead.  We have to no just beat the press but use it to create 3 on 2s going to the basket.  Get Henry the ball behind the press and then drive towards the hoop with Fish available for a dump off or the trailing guards for an open 3.  Success on that will pull a team out of this defense and we can't have them stay in it.  We are too vulnerable.

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Re: Creighton Barreling
« Reply #80 on: February 25, 2016, 12:42:57 PM »
Is there an announcer scoopers don't hate? Honestly the only one I can think of is Thomas Bilde and I think if we had to listen to him during real games where he has to be objective we'd hate him too.
Donny Marshall did a game earlier in the year--his insight was unlike any others I have heard this year.

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Re: Creighton Barreling
« Reply #81 on: February 25, 2016, 12:43:56 PM »
Mike Kelly, and I thought he was great as well

Yep, that's the guy.  Hadn't heard the name in a while, so I did a google search and it appears he got out of broadcasting in 2014.  https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-kelley-02828673

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Re: Creighton Barreling
« Reply #82 on: February 25, 2016, 12:57:44 PM »
Tough being an MU grad but working at Creighton. That being said good win last night. The reality is we are just a good team in top third of the country. I was lucky enough to sit court side and there was excessive hammering on both ends. These twp programs seem to be on the same path and on par. Both need better recruits, CU has Marcus Foster red shirting who cam over from K State. We definitely need to bring either more Juco's or transfers in. seems top be our weak spot compare to other BE team.

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« Reply #83 on: February 25, 2016, 01:09:12 PM »
Tough being an MU grad but working at Creighton. That being said good win last night. The reality is we are just a good team in top third of the country. I was lucky enough to sit court side and there was excessive hammering on both ends. These twp programs seem to be on the same path and on par. Both need better recruits, CU has Marcus Foster red shirting who cam over from K State. We definitely need to bring either more Juco's or transfers in. seems top be our weak spot compare to other BE team.

Marquette recruits just fine. Recruiting has not been the problem.
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Re: Creighton Barreling
« Reply #84 on: February 25, 2016, 01:14:11 PM »
JJJ had a very good first half


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Re: Creighton Barreling
« Reply #85 on: February 25, 2016, 01:31:29 PM »
The announcers were terrible and made numerous mistakes.

They were just plain awful. Solution to everything was "pound it inside!" You could have four guys open at the three point circle and they'd be screaming to pound it inside.

Where does CBS find these guys?

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Re: Creighton Barreling
« Reply #86 on: February 25, 2016, 01:35:47 PM »

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Re: Creighton Barreling
« Reply #87 on: February 25, 2016, 02:18:07 PM »
Is there an announcer scoopers don't hate? Honestly the only one I can think of is Thomas Bilde and I think if we had to listen to him during real games where he has to be objective we'd hate him too.
I like Stephen Bardo.  He's really good.

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Re: Creighton Barreling
« Reply #88 on: February 25, 2016, 02:37:19 PM »
Wow ... after that game by Henry, we're actually bashing his D?

Luke was out with fouls and Henry had one. The last thing we needed was for him to get a second foul before the end of the half. I wouldn't be surprised if Wojo told him specifically to avoid a foul -- in other words, he'd rather give up the 2 points than get the foul. Coaches have to make that call all the time.

I'm absolutely not saying Henry was a defensive stud. He wasn't. He almost never is. But Creighton has a couple of tough, big bodies. They get some credit, too.

It was a nice win. Not only is any road win nice for MU but any win at all is nice for our boyz.

Let's enjoy the victories, people. And let's enjoy Henry while we have him. We won't see the likes of him again for some time, if ever.

The kid goes for 22 while being mugged all night, and grabs 10 boards -- all "easy," I'm guessing. He hits the huge jumper from the lane and the two clinching FTs. And his defense is what's on a bunch of Scoopers' minds?

I guess I'm just getting to be too damn positive in my old age.

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