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avid1010

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D. Wilson
« on: March 02, 2013, 06:45:44 PM »
derrick. wilson seems like a great kid...hard working, carries himself respectfully, etc.  not to rip a college kid, but i just don't see him as the caliber pg we need to replace junior on a team that is only losing two seniors (i hope), and should be even better next year.  think derrick wilson will get the majority of the minutes at the pg spot next year, or will buzz go with duane wilson or vander for a majority of the minutes?  part of my sees vander playing a role similar to what buycks did in his senior year.

ps. someone should put a hand in brian kelly's face...

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Re: D. Wilson
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2013, 06:47:55 PM »
Let's see who all returns.    DWilson will get minutes.   Does Blue?    Duane Wilson and Dawson are both PG's.    Some combination of those 4.
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Re: D. Wilson
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2013, 06:49:02 PM »
Maybe fist to suckhole?
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Re: D. Wilson
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2013, 06:50:35 PM »
WOW he is just in his 1st yr...WTF did you expect. D-Wade was the same his 1st yr, cut him some slack!

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Re: D. Wilson
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2013, 06:52:16 PM »
WOW he is just in his 1st yr...WTF did you expect. D-Wade was the same his 1st yr, cut him some slack!


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Re: D. Wilson
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2013, 06:53:10 PM »
Count brah
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Re: D. Wilson
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2013, 06:53:36 PM »
WOW he is just in his 1st yr...WTF did you expect. D-Wade was the same his 1st yr, cut him some slack!
1. i have no issues with the kid..said plenty of good things about him...just don't think he's a starting pg in the BEAST/C7
2. he's in his 2nd yr
3. d-wade was not the same --- possibly the worst comparison i've heard for some time.

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Re: D. Wilson
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2013, 06:54:53 PM »
Yeah, Derrick looked terrible when he had to play PG for significant minutes @Pitt earlier this year

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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2013, 07:01:19 PM »
Yeah, Derrick looked terrible when he had to play PG for significant minutes @Pitt earlier this year
i thought he looked average and was "serviceable."  he played minutes he wasn't expected to play, and held things together...i'd just like see mu with a pg that at least holds his defender honest.  his line in that game...31 min, 0-3 shooting, 1-2 FT, 2 reb, 1 dime, 1 to, 3 fouls, and 1 point. 

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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2013, 07:02:04 PM »
Yeah, Derrick looked terrible when he had to play PG for significant minutes @Pitt earlier this year

Well, I know you are being sarcastic.  And while he didn't turn the ball over, he really didn't do anything to get the offense moving.  This is why I go back and forth on him.  I think you have to give him a chance and see what happens.

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Re: D. Wilson
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2013, 07:05:43 PM »
In his favor, he is going to have a lot of weapons.   He knows where the returning players want the ball.    If he just handles distribution, holds onto the ball and plays good defense, I don't care if he averages 4 ppg. 
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Re: D. Wilson
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2013, 07:06:52 PM »
Derrick doesn't make too many mistakes but he also hasn't brought much to the table.  He can't score or shoot and doesn't seem to distribute the ball very well.  I think it could be situation where he might start, but if the new Wilson proves something he Duane might get more time from the get go.  

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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2013, 07:15:10 PM »
Ok in his role, but don't see how he improves to be a starting/heavy minute player.  Hard worker, just not very talented.  The "doesn't screw up" guy works fine for a backup point guard, but you need a playmaker for the majority of minutes.

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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2013, 07:20:19 PM »
After watching Duane play live for 5 games this year, I hope he can transition his game to college. Yea yea he's playing against lesser competition most of the time, but the kid is so smooth. A PG who is extremely athletic and can shoot lights out and create his own shot. I am so exicted for this class next year, not to mention JuJuan Johnson bringing in some serious skill as well.

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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2013, 07:39:00 PM »
Derrick Wilson seems to handle the ball fine.  However, his scoring is a liability and I am still trying to recall an assist from him.

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Re: D. Wilson
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2013, 07:40:53 PM »
WOW he is just in his 1st yr...WTF did you expect. D-Wade was the same his 1st yr, cut him some slack!

Dwayne Wade was a similar player to Derrick Wilson this year in his first year playing for Marquette?  Really?

None of this is to say that Derrick isn't going to play the majority of PG minutes next year.  I think he will surprise.  But, let's not start making ridiculous comparisons.
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Re: D. Wilson
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2013, 07:42:58 PM »
His role since he has been here is to take care of the ball, play tough D, and set up the scorers on the team.  As far as I can tell he's accepted that role and played that role pretty darn well.  If and when his role expands to include becoming a primary scoring option, I think he will be able to handle it, although personally I don't think that will ever be his role with all the other options on the team.  However, the only part of the Florida game I haven't repressed from my memory is his performance, where he was aggressive offensively against a very tough defense.  

I do agree with Sultan that the most concerning thing about him is that much of the time he's not doing much to initiate offense, just passing around the perimeter.  

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« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2013, 08:14:40 PM »
I remember this conversation a couple of years ago. I believe it may have been titled J. Cadougan.

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« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2013, 08:23:53 PM »
I don't think so...Cadougan was inconsistent as a sophomore, but he showed signs of being a play making point guard.

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« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2013, 08:29:32 PM »
Probably a great guy, great teamate, etc.  But not a BE point guard, especially a starter.  His role, yes role  now under Junior is to give him a two minute breather, fine.  Nothing else.

In 16 BE games this year:

9 total points.
2 for 21 field goal attempts or .095%.

He took one short shot today from the side and attempted to bank it in. Almost missed the entire backboard.  Just not even close to any type of starter due to offensive liability and cannot even come close to comparing him to the earlier Junior or any other previous backup point guard.  

Maybe he pulls a Vander improvement over the summer, but as of this moment.  Not.

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« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2013, 08:36:06 PM »
Probably a great guy, great teamate, etc.  But not a BE point guard, especially a starter.  His role, yes role  now under Junior is to give him a two minute breather, fine.  Nothing else.

In 16 BE games this year:

9 total points.
2 for 21 field goal attempts or .095%.

He took one short shot today from the side and attempted to bank it in. Almost missed the entire backboard.  Just not even close to any type of starter due to offensive liability and cannot even come close to comparing him to the earlier Junior or any other previous backup point guard.  

Maybe he pulls a Vander improvement over the summer, but as of this moment.  Not.
You obviously don't grasp the definition of "role" or playing within a team concept.

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« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2013, 08:40:51 PM »
You obviously don't grasp the definition of "role" or playing within a team concept.

I get the role thing.  It's his role right now to give Junior a two minute break in first half and a two minute break in second half. 

Pass the ball around and don't make any mistakes until Junior gets back in the game.  And please don't shoot.

No problem with that role. 

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« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2013, 08:42:40 PM »
You obviously don't grasp the definition of "role" or playing within a team concept.

Going 2 for 21 is is role?

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« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2013, 10:29:44 PM »
I remember this conversation a couple of years ago. I believe it may have been titled J. Cadougan.
and in my opinion we have lost a few games this year because junior couldn't manage the teams, take care of the ball, defend the other teams pg, etc.  junior was highly rated coming out of hs, so i it's hard to hold buzz accountable, but it seems like with the style of play mu has we should have solid pg's. the tony miller, tony smith, aaron hutchins, travis diener, DJ type pg's seem to not happen under buzz.  if i look at all the positions he recruits, i'd say it's probably the worst, and that surprises me because pg's are "easier" to get and i'd think they'd want to play mu style ball.  junior has been great for mu...i'd just like to see buzz have an elite pg under him...hopefully duane wilson will be that player.  he certainly doesn't have the glass ceiling that someone with derrick and junior's athleticism puts on them. 

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« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2013, 10:33:22 PM »
Very few legitimate national contenders in recent history have had a PG who can't do some special things on offense. If anybody has seen even one sign that Derrick Wilson can be that PG for us next year, I'd like to know what that sign is.

I'm not talking only scoring -- though it would be nice if the PG can do that. It's about facilitating the offense, making the defense respect him so he can make other players better. Again, what has Derrick shown in two years to make anybody believe he can do that.

I'm hoping Duane Wilson is as good as advertised and can play at least 20 minutes a game as a freshman. Buzz almost surely will start Derrick, but Buzz likes to win and as the season progresses he'll play the better PG.
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