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Author Topic: Why We're 5-8 in the BE  (Read 10483 times)

4everwarriors

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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2018, 06:58:52 PM »
Meenwhile, VPI kinda has it all goin' on, for now, hey?
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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2018, 07:01:11 PM »
I concede the point that Wojo is responsible for the roster composition.  Do you acknowledge that any coach would be challenged to win big with this roster?

Win big with this roster?  Yes - I think most coaches would be challenged to win big (as in Top 15 type of performance.)

However, I certainly believe there is enough ability and talent on this team to be in the range of a Top 20-30 team, and upper half of the Big East.  Rowsey, Howard, and Hauser are great talents. 

We all know that it is a challenge defensively to play to sub 5'11" guards.  Yet, if as a coach you want to roll that way, you need to develop a defensive scheme that minimizes your exposure.  We are generally out-athleticed/out-sized across the board, and in my view implementing a zone defense from the very first day of practice would have been the best way to go to hide the size/athletic deficiency - 1-3-1 alignment.  Lots of ways to "hide" the two midgets in a 1-3-1, and surround them with max length/athleticism - Theo, Hauser, Sacar.

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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2018, 07:14:46 PM »
So, we'll disagree.    Let's not make it a war this time, ok?
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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2018, 07:20:40 PM »
Meenwhile, VPI kinda has it all goin' on, for now, hey?
His roster is clearly far superior to ours
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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2018, 07:22:10 PM »
Buzz just punched der ticket, aina?
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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2018, 07:23:15 PM »
Buzz is a better coach.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2018, 07:30:56 PM »
Buzz is a better coach.

Now you did it . . .

tower912

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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2018, 07:39:04 PM »
I'm not thrilled with Wojo, though I can see more reasons to keep him than to fire him.    But IMO, there isn't a debate as to who is a better coach. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2018, 07:47:39 PM »
I agree with you, but I was waiting for the flame war to begin.

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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2018, 07:52:09 PM »
I distinctly recall being frustrated with Buzz in his first year or two.  His play calling out of timeouts, and late game execution left me scratching my head (to be polite).  It's year four with Wojo and I am scratching my head with Wojo's play calling and the team's execution.

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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2018, 08:04:52 PM »
We were dubbed Team Bubble Watch a few times with Buzz. Those teams were just able to get some clutch wins. It’s not like we were a 3 seed every year with Buzz at the helm.

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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2018, 08:11:44 PM »
We were dubbed Team Bubble Watch a few times with Buzz. Those teams were just able to get some clutch wins. It’s not like we were a 3 seed every year with Buzz at the helm.

Those teams played in the old big east and during the transition Crean’s players to his.

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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2018, 08:14:02 PM »
I distinctly recall being frustrated with Buzz in his first year or two.  His play calling out of timeouts, and late game execution left me scratching my head (to be polite).  It's year four with Wojo and I am scratching my head with Wojo's play calling and the team's execution.

Agree.  I wish it weren't so, but, Buzz is a better coach.  Too many times this season, we are unprepared on offense and defense.  Today is a prime exams where we knew St. John's was a slashing team and we did very little to defend layups.  For me the jury is in, Wojo is not a good coach. 

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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2018, 08:16:04 PM »
Those teams played in the old big east and during the transition Crean’s players to his.

We also completely missed the post season in Buzz’s last year and the start of the new Big East.

Don’t get me wrong. I think Buzz has proven to be a much better coach. Just that I think we sometimes overstate how smooth our path to the tourney was while he was here.

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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #39 on: February 10, 2018, 08:16:29 PM »
Agree.  I wish it weren't so, but, Buzz is a better coach.  Too many times this season, we are unprepared on offense and defense.  Today is a prime exams where we knew St. John's was a slashing team and we did very little to defend layups.  For me the jury is in, Wojo is not a good coach.
I not sure about coaching, but he is not a good team builder.

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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2018, 08:21:42 PM »
We also completely missed the post season in Buzz’s last year and the start of the new Big East.

Don’t get me wrong. I think Buzz has proven to be a much better coach. Just that I think we sometimes overstate how smooth our path to the tourney was while he was here.

Go back and look at the kenpom rankings for his teams....they are not that close to the bubble.  Maybe we weren’t as scientific back then about the worst possible record required to make the tourney. 

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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #41 on: February 10, 2018, 08:23:54 PM »
There were a couple times that we were on the bubble with two or three weeks to go, but then got a couple good wins - like VT tonight.

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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #42 on: February 10, 2018, 08:49:57 PM »
We just suck all the way around

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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #43 on: February 10, 2018, 08:50:48 PM »
And der y'all have it folks, hey?
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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #44 on: February 10, 2018, 10:11:49 PM »
Sum folks here will burst a hemorrhoid tonite if VT tops UVA, aina?

Given your comments later in this thread, 4ever ... sorry to hear about your condition.

Hopefully, the Preparation H and the foam donut will provide some relief, anus?
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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #45 on: February 10, 2018, 10:53:12 PM »
Undeniably a great a win for Buzz and he’s undeniably a good coach, but any time VT has a good win people act like he’s John Wooden. VT will be in the tournament, let’s see if they do anything...

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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #46 on: February 11, 2018, 12:01:48 AM »
I concede the point that Wojo is responsible for the roster composition.  Do you acknowledge that any coach would be challenged to win big with this roster?

I think if you give this team to say, Huggins, they’d be playing far better defense.

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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #47 on: February 11, 2018, 01:57:45 AM »
I get the on ball defense stinking for Howard.  Here are two plays that sum his defense up.  St John's guard drives. Howard's help defense is a baby reach on left block that catches arm and commence 3 point play.  Later in game, same guy drives on Sacar. Howard's help defense is staying on left block and just watching, probably because he doesn't want to pick up a foul.  Now multiply that philosophy x 2 and 5'10" and under.

Basic defensive principles of help defense are out the door, x 2 players.  May as well play a triangle and zero defense.  You absolutely can not win with two guys playing defense like that.  Let's cycle in another Hauser brother that is taller, longer, better driver, better in the post, plays defense, better at blocking shots. Let's cycle in a banger like Morrow. Let's cycle in Greg with two good thumbs.

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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #48 on: February 11, 2018, 04:27:55 AM »
my sons friend says why is Marquette losing all the time? I said we're better than Depaul

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Re: Why We're 5-8 in the BE
« Reply #49 on: February 11, 2018, 06:06:12 AM »
my sons friend says why is Marquette losing all the time? I said we're better than Depaul
Don't be too confident about that.
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