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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: muwarrior69 on July 08, 2013, 12:56:07 PM
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Have the teams been picked?
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I don't even know if it's happening this year. Last year most of the MU players had stopped showing up by the end of the tourney.
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http://www.milwaukeeproam.com/
or check here
http://www.brewcityball.com/homepage.php
or here
https://twitter.com/theIWB
July 12th.
Now officially sanctioned by the NBA
https://twitter.com/theIWB/status/353241659833720833
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Yes, it is happening, and no, the MU players did not "stop showing up" last year. When you look at last year, MU was 2 short on scholarships, Juan and Chris were hurt and Todd was gone for the summer. That brought it down to 8 available guys. Some missed games due to camps or charity events (one weekend Junior and Vander participated in a charity event in Toronto).
It was just an odd summer.
This summer all of MU's scholarship players are registered with the exception of Steve Taylor (knee).
Former MU players Wes Matthews, Joe Chapman, Maurice Acker, Dan Fitzgerald, Scott Merritt, Chris Grimm and Tommy Brice have committed to play. (some are pulling double duty and will play when in town).
It should be a great league this year as there is talent on every team.
I am trying to finalize the rosters, but it gets tough with last minute requests from guys that want to play with a college or high school teammates etc.
I should have all of the rosters out later today and will post as soon as I do.
Games start this Friday at Greenfield High School. Games run Friday nights and Saturday mid-days through the first weekend in August with the final tourney at The AL on August 4th.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks
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any other "names" from other schools of interest???
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I thought I saw a tweet over the weekend that Steve Novak was playing, is he?
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I have not heard from Novak. We are now sanctioned by the NBA, which is a new requirement from the collective bargaining agreement, so the road is clear, just need the new Whitefish Bay resident to pull the trigger.
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I went to the final day of the pro-am last year. My kids met and took pictures with Jamil Wilson, Derrick Wilson, Junior Cadougan, Juan Anderson (didn't play due to shoulder but was there), Jake Thomas and Garrett Swanson. MU players were there. It was a great experience for my family.
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A pro am that starts this Friday and still has an "updated webpage coming soon" is pretty pathetic?
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A pro am that starts this Friday and still has an "updated webpage coming soon" is pretty pathetic?
IWB gave a pretty exhaustive reasoning why there are last minute changes, and he does this work pretty much on his own. He gave you the schedule and the location. What else do you need to know?
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What time is the first game on Friday? I'd like to attend.
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Jim, thank you for all of your hard work on the pro-am. I know what a monumental undertaking the logistics of the whole thing are. And I know you certainly aren't getting rich from it.
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What time is the first game on Friday? I'd like to attend.
6:30
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I live in Princeton, NJ and as the OP of this thread I am looking forward to your impressions of the new guys. To hear how these guys do over the summer is fun and really appreciate the feedback from those of you who can see them play. Simply put, I need my summer fix of MU BB.
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A pro am that starts this Friday and still has an "updated webpage coming soon" is pretty pathetic?
Start your own Pro-Am if you don't like it.
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Anybody who complains about a pro am featuring Marquette players (present and past) that is free to attend is pretty pathetic…..
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Yes, it is happening, and no, the MU players did not "stop showing up" last year. When you look at last year, MU was 2 short on scholarships, Juan and Chris were hurt and Todd was gone for the summer. That brought it down to 8 available guys. Some missed games due to camps or charity events (one weekend Junior and Vander participated in a charity event in Toronto).
It was just an odd summer.
This summer all of MU's scholarship players are registered with the exception of Steve Taylor (knee).
Former MU players Wes Matthews, Joe Chapman, Maurice Acker, Dan Fitzgerald, Scott Merritt, Chris Grimm and Tommy Brice have committed to play. (some are pulling double duty and will play when in town).
It should be a great league this year as there is talent on every team.
I am trying to finalize the rosters, but it gets tough with last minute requests from guys that want to play with a college or high school teammates etc.
I should have all of the rosters out later today and will post as soon as I do.
Games start this Friday at Greenfield High School. Games run Friday nights and Saturday mid-days through the first weekend in August with the final tourney at The AL on August 4th.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks
A bunch of us will be in town the weekend of the 26th and 27th (reunion weekend). Will the tournament be running through that weekend?
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Anybody who complains about a pro am featuring Marquette players (present and past) that is free to attend is pretty pathetic…..
This.
The couple times I've been able to go it was great. Especially great for the MU hoops fix during the summer. I'd have to imagine a lot of schools' fans would love to have a ProAm like this. Keep up the great work, IWB.
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A bunch of us will be in town the weekend of the 26th and 27th (reunion weekend). Will the tournament be running through that weekend?
I quote IWB... "Games start this Friday at Greenfield High School. Games run Friday nights and Saturday mid-days through the first weekend in August with the final tourney at The AL on August 4th."
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Anybody who complains about a pro am featuring Marquette players (present and past) that is free to attend is pretty pathetic…..
+1 - Ridiculous to criticze...love how many in life stand on the sidelines and criticize the hard work done by others, while they themselves do nothing.
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A pro am that starts this Friday and still has an "updated webpage coming soon" is pretty pathetic?
Yes, I have been working hard on the website every day. Here is what you have to understand - We have 80 guys in the league. About 60 of those filled out their registrations in the past 3-4 days.
Once the registrations are in........ This part is a lot of fun for me..... because many of the players registered without listing a school, we now have to research the ones that didn't. School-wise - are they NCAA eligible? Are they still in school? Are they done with school? If they listed a Juco are they done playing because we can't have Jucos? Do we need their AD's permission form? Ok, all is understood, schools are set.
We now need to do our best at splitting up the rosters. Oh but wait, many of the registrations don't have a size listed. So now we have to research all of these guys to find out what size they are or we will end up with unbalanced teams. (no bigs, all guards etc).
The new website is now in place, and the rosters are set.... but it is an entire system uses rosters, scheduling and individual player listings. I need to fill all of that in. Since most registrations didn't come through until this past weekend (typical) I am behind.
I do now have all of the rosters and players set in the new system, and am now going through scheduling. It is a major pain in the ass - a lot of work, but I do not want to point to the new website until it is done.
So my apologies for taking so long, perhaps next year you can get the players to get off the couch and register a few months sooner so that you can have the site up and ready to go long before the games start.
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IWB, thanks for all your hard work in putting together what has become a great summer tradition for so many of us Marquette fans.
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Yes, I have been working hard on the website every day. Here is what you have to understand - We have 80 guys in the league. About 60 of those filled out their registrations in the past 3-4 days.
Once the registrations are in........ This part is a lot of fun for me..... because many of the players registered without listing a school, we now have to research the ones that didn't. School-wise - are they NCAA eligible? Are they still in school? Are they done with school? If they listed a Juco are they done playing because we can't have Jucos? Do we need their AD's permission form? Ok, all is understood, schools are set.
We now need to do our best at splitting up the rosters. Oh but wait, many of the registrations don't have a size listed. So now we have to research all of these guys to find out what size they are or we will end up with unbalanced teams. (no bigs, all guards etc).
The new website is now in place, and the rosters are set.... but it is an entire system uses rosters, scheduling and individual player listings. I need to fill all of that in. Since most registrations didn't come through until this past weekend (typical) I am behind.
I do now have all of the rosters and players set in the new system, and am now going through scheduling. It is a major pain in the ass - a lot of work, but I do not want to point to the new website until it is done.
So my apologies for taking so long, perhaps next year you can get the players to get off the couch and register a few months sooner so that you can have the site up and ready to go long before the games start.
"When's the ProAm again?" --Big SHEESH, July 19, 2013.
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Did the rosters come out for this? I saw the players tweeting about it.
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To continue my rant, I have had no less than a dozen players contact me in the past 24 hours wanting to be on teams. Yep, registration has been open for almost two months, the league is full and they contact me with one day to go. Crappy part is, I would really like to have most of them as they are top tier Euro Pros.
To answer your question, I e-mailed the rosters to the players.
The new site is not ready yet, still have a bit of cleanup and design to go, but you can at least find the rosters and schedules here: http://www.hoopfigures.com/0045
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but you can at least find the rosters and schedules here: http://www.hoopfigures.com/0045
I appreciate the work you have to be putting in to do this but to say that site is difficult to read would be an understatement.
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I appreciate the work you have to be putting in to do this but to say that site is difficult to read would be an understatement.
I thought Geocities died years ago.
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If all of those guys play AthletiCo has to be the favorite.
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Match up alert
Saturday at 1
Dawson vs Duane Wilson. Will the mystery man outplay the highly anticipated Wilson.
Anderson vs J. Wilson. Will Jamil take the first step in winning the starting job from Juan.
McKay vs Gardner. Will Gardner physically demolish McKay or will McKay run Gardner into the ground.
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Anderson vs J. Wilson. Will Jamil take the first step in winning the starting job from Juan.
Again, IMO they both start.
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Regardless of how JWill plays, JA will start.
I do like the matchups though.
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Any feedback would be appreciated on how the guys in our new class are doing. Any first impressions. Thanks, I,m in Jersey.
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I haven't seen this posted on the forums yet. Twitter has been a better place to get Pro-Am news so far.
http://www.youtube.com/v/WpQbwWTCbOA
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Any feedback would be appreciated on how the guys in our new class are doing. Any first impressions. Thanks, I,m in Jersey.
http://www.brewcityball.com/forums/showthread.php?5030-Pro-Am
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Um...after seeing that Davonte clip...if we get any guard play, we are going to be scary good. Like Utah after KVH left good. #VanderEwingTheory
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I haven't seen this posted on the forums yet. Twitter has been a better place to get Pro-Am news so far.
http://www.youtube.com/v/WpQbwWTCbOA
Who's that skinny guy?!?!
Gardner's definitely been putting in work.
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I went today. Unfortunately Otule and JJJ did not show up. I watched the first half of that game. Derrick W. and Thomas were on the other team. The pro am is a different animal as the players can play however they want, which pretty much means they can shoot whenever they want. Thomas was much more impressive than Wilson in this setting. Wilson did however show some ability to drive to the basket and actually make it. The second game I got to watch Deonte Burton and Mayo. Mayo was okay and had 24 points as his team was blown out. Jerry Smith was the second leading scorer on the other team with 50 points as McKay scored 51. Burton had 36 points and at least 5 dunks. I had pretty much decided he was not much of an outside shooter and then he buried three straight threes. Overall he was the second most impressive MU player of the day. The highlight game was Gardner, Anderson and Dawson surviving against McKay, J. Wilson and Duane Wilson. Gardner was somewhat disappointing as he repeatedly in the first half missed shot after shot from the outside. Anderson was very good playing the two guard. Dawson scored the first basket of the game and probably finished with 6 points. Nice player, but most of the time you did not notice him on the court. Jamil Wilson played the first half like he often does, which means he just does not seem to care. In the fourth quarter he was dominate and very impressive. Better than Juan when he wants to be, but Juan played hard the whole game. Duane Wilson is extremely quick and is most likely our starting point guard, but based on what I saw today we do not have a point that can make the other players better. Jamal McKay was allowed 6 fouls before he fouled out, but when he was in he was unbelievable. I think he had 40 points. He is very thin, but so fast that he is impossible to guard. Scored at the basket several times and scored from the outside. He handles the ball very well and to me was the most impressive MU player of the day. Based on what I saw today I would start Juan at the 2 over Mayo. Bigger player, better passer and defender.
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Thanks much for the report. Really appreciate it. :)
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Was at the ProAm today also. Deonte Burton is a highlight reel, he was incredible with his dunks, and driving with the ball. He is so much bigger than I imagined, and by that I mean just solid. Defense everywhere was pretty lacking. I thought Mayo looked very smooth. Davante looks to have lost maybe 15# or put it in different spots, as he looked fairly trim and did explode to the baskets on some drives, but didn't finish all that well, and took too many outside shots. Juan was Juan doing everything well, and hustling. His outside shot looked good. Jameel & Jamil were an incredible twosome to deal with and always looking for each other. When Jamil wants, he can control the game. Jameel (with literally toothpick legs) is an incredible finisher, however outside of 8 feet, he was very inconsistent with his shot. Dawson kind of disappeared on Sat, but in talking with another guy, he really stood out Friday nite, maybe just a bad day for him, but in pregame, he was hitting every shot from outside. The Mckay that scored 51 was Miles Mckay from UW-Whitewater, why he is there I don't know, but probably the best all-around scorer and pure shooter I saw. Duane Wilson was forcing too much and not letting the game come to him. His quickness is really evident and could take the ball to the hole whenever he wanted, but finishing was a problem on this day.
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A pro am that starts this Friday and still has an "updated webpage coming soon" is pretty pathetic?
Can't wait to see your Pro-Am next year. Idiot.
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Otule is out this weekend with an ankle injury.
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Otule is out this weekend with an ankle injury.
So what youre saying is that he'll be back next year. Chris Otule, C, 6-10, PhD
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Mckay is long gone from Whitewater...he is a pro in Europe now....
http://basketball.eurobasket.com/player/Myles_McKay/Pertevniyal_Istanbul/92586
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I was terrified that Davante was going to break his hand when he punched the wall.
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Anybody who complains about a pro am featuring Marquette players (present and past) that is free to attend is pretty pathetic…..
What in the Air Force is known as bitching about a Blow Job
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I was terrified that Davante was going to break his hand when he punched the wall.
Walls crumble in fear of the dancing bear.
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Um...after seeing that Davonte clip...if we get any guard play, we are going to be scary good. Like Utah after KVH left good. #VanderEwingTheory
Remember that defense is optional in these things. Someone will step in front of Ox to draw a charge if he tries that when there's snow on the ground.
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What in the Air Force anywhere is known as bitching about a Blow Job
Fixed.
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Fixed.
Roger anywhere
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Thank you for the updates. We who are geographically challenged appreciate it.
And thank you IWB for putting all of this together. I went to every pro am I could when I was still living in Milwaukee
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Thank you for the updates. We who are geographically challenged appreciate it.
And thank you IWB for putting all of this together. I went to every pro am I could when I was still living in Milwaukee
Yes, much appreciated. THANK YOU!
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I went today. Unfortunately Otule and JJJ did not show up. I watched the first half of that game. Derrick W. and Thomas were on the other team. The pro am is a different animal as the players can play however they want, which pretty much means they can shoot whenever they want. Thomas was much more impressive than Wilson in this setting. Wilson did however show some ability to drive to the basket and actually make it. The second game I got to watch Deonte Burton and Mayo. Mayo was okay and had 24 points as his team was blown out. Jerry Smith was the second leading scorer on the other team with 50 points as McKay scored 51. Burton had 36 points and at least 5 dunks. I had pretty much decided he was not much of an outside shooter and then he buried three straight threes. Overall he was the second most impressive MU player of the day. The highlight game was Gardner, Anderson and Dawson surviving against McKay, J. Wilson and Duane Wilson. Gardner was somewhat disappointing as he repeatedly in the first half missed shot after shot from the outside. Anderson was very good playing the two guard. Dawson scored the first basket of the game and probably finished with 6 points. Nice player, but most of the time you did not notice him on the court. Jamil Wilson played the first half like he often does, which means he just does not seem to care. In the fourth quarter he was dominate and very impressive. Better than Juan when he wants to be, but Juan played hard the whole game. Duane Wilson is extremely quick and is most likely our starting point guard, but based on what I saw today we do not have a point that can make the other players better. Jamal McKay was allowed 6 fouls before he fouled out, but when he was in he was unbelievable. I think he had 40 points. He is very thin, but so fast that he is impossible to guard. Scored at the basket several times and scored from the outside. He handles the ball very well and to me was the most impressive MU player of the day. Based on what I saw today I would start Juan at the 2 over Mayo. Bigger player, better passer and defender.
I dont know what you saw...but I have to reserve judgement until I see this JJJ fellow who I would start. I thought Mayo looked fit and he moved around great. Jerry Smith was a problem for all as was Myles Mckay.
Deonte Burton is a beast. Solid athlete and already a great Division I and NBA body. Enormous tools and is really blessed physically.
I am not sure how much is muscle or baby fat yet but he is a big boned young man who knows how to use his body to his edge and play in the right gear.
He will be worth watching to see how he makes it through boot camp and what Todd does with him in the weight room and if he is a kid who will stay healthy and does not have any issues with muscle pulls or any strains as it looks like he might...but he is very impressive.
Sometimes does too much reaching on defense and does not get in front of his man and on offense lunges into his man and takes wild shots and might not yet be as instinctively quick in making decisions but once he makes up his mind, it is almost impossible to stop him.
If it clicks early with him, look out. No one else really worth discussing right now. Juan is a gem. Love is game and how hard he plays all the time. Really locked in. Jumper has improved. Handle somewhat shaky and suspect at times, but if he learns to handle and pull up mid range its a wrap.
He does everything else he needs to in order to start and be on the floor. His hustle and spirit and focus is an example to the young cats. A coaches dream.
Lots of potential and guys that Buzz should love to coach up and who will improve.
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To continue my rant, I have had no less than a dozen players contact me in the past 24 hours wanting to be on teams. Yep, registration has been open for almost two months, the league is full and they contact me with one day to go. Crappy part is, I would really like to have most of them as they are top tier Euro Pros.
To answer your question, I e-mailed the rosters to the players.
The new site is not ready yet, still have a bit of cleanup and design to go, but you can at least find the rosters and schedules here: http://www.hoopfigures.com/0045
If they are top tier then make exceptions then! You know their schedule...surely they are going to come to you at the last minute some of them.
ADAPT.
You need more then 8 teams...
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If they are top tier then make exceptions then! You know their schedule...surely they are going to come to you at the last minute some of them.
ADAPT.
You need more then 8 teams...
Do you like to cast stones? All these guys are adults if they don't sign up in time for the pro-am to bad how sad. They'll remember next year to sign-up in time.
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If they are top tier then make exceptions then! You know their schedule...surely they are going to come to you at the last minute some of them.
ADAPT.
You need more then 8 teams...
Yeah! Just add a couple teams at the last minute, find a couple of new sponsors, rework the entire schedule, shuffle the rosters, and voila! How hard could that possibly be?
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If they are top tier then make exceptions then! You know their schedule...surely they are going to come to you at the last minute some of them.
ADAPT.
You need more then 8 teams...
Seriously? WTF? Do you have any clue how he puts this together? Perhaps you should volunteer your time to help out instead of sitting back and making half-ass suggestions.
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Seriously? WTF? Do you have any clue how he puts this together? Perhaps you should volunteer your time to help out instead of sitting back and making half-ass suggestions.
It's way easier to play Monday-morning QB.
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Can someone tell me if JJJ's jumper is as good as advertised?
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I dont know what you saw...but I have to reserve judgement until I see this JJJ fellow who I would start.
What does this even mean?
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Anybody who thinks they can make realistic judgements on who will and won't start based on a couple of games in the pro-am is clueless.
I enjoy watching the games to see the MU guys play but run and gun street ball doesn't give you any indications on who will and won't get minutes in Buzz's rotation once the games start to count.
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Here's another angle of Davante's dunk at the Pro-Am that I took.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201556080569893&l=8979112455334387200
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Maybe I am naive...and I understand there is ZERO defense but there were times in the past two years where I don't know if DG could have done that in the lay-up lines before Seton Hall. I'm cautiously optimistic.
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Can someone tell me if JJJ's jumper is as good as advertised?
Player Y is hitting everything in site
Player Z has dropped 20lbs
Player T has learned to dribble with his left hand
Player G has really improved his hands and can catch everything.
Player M is going to be an All American when he is a Senior
I tease, but every year this is typically the report. Players should get better with age. Should get in better shape. Tend to do some pretty amazing things in this setting. Good for the kids, good for the fans. Ultimately will know when the season comes around.
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The first thing I noticed about Burton was that he had both of his legs wrapped (I suppose there is a better term for this) and it seemed like his legs were bothering him. He started kind of slow and then went out and did a lot of stretching. At that point I wondered if he could play a whole season. However, when he came back in after stretching whatever seemed to bother him was no longer apparent and he became very actice. The second thing I noticed about him was his hands. He has great hands like Gardner. Hands that means a rebound is his if he gets his hands on it and if you pass him the ball and he will catch it. Hands is something you cannot coach. The last thing that became apparent to me was his two guard skills. In the second half he pushed the ball up court a couple of times and then he buried three straight threes. He appeared to be ready to go for a fourth straight three when he got fouled before he went into shooting motion. He easily gets a foot above the rim on some of his dunks. Unless he is absolutely horrible on defense he is going to play a lot this year.
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Player Y is hitting everything in site
Player Z has dropped 20lbs
Player T has learned to dribble with his left hand
Player G has really improved his hands and can catch everything.
Player M is going to be an All American when he is a Senior
Yeah - but it's so much fun! And besides, we're fan(atic)s. So we don't have to be rational. ;D
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Last year, if I recall correctly, Junior hit a billion three pointers, and scored a zillion points.
The pro-am is strictly entertainment.
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Last year, if I recall correctly, Junior hit a billion three pointers, and scored a zillion points.
The pro-am is strictly entertainment.
Well obviously you are an idiot if you give any weight to the stats at the Pro-Am. But if you actually go to the games you can get a nice up close view of MU players offensive skill sets. They typically dominate the ball for their teams and get to showcase their skills perhaps more than they do in real games. Can be helpful in thinking about how a player may develop. You take the setting for what it is and try to think about what skills would actually transfer to a Big East game.
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When I watch the newcomers I compared their skills to the newcomers in the prior Pro Am's. It seemed to me that Juan Anderson as an incoming freshmen had more talent than Jones did the year before. It appeared to me that Steve Taylor as an incoming freshmen was more physically ready than Juan was year before. Burton appears to have more talent than Taylor. You could also see Gardner's talent, but it was also apparent that he had trouble getting up and down the floor. You get to see what the players will try to do when the coach does not have them under his thumb. Coaches tone all the players down and the players do not get to take the shots they want when they are in an actual game. That is why Thomas looks so much better in pro am. He can take any shot he wants whenever he wants. When he is on the floor in Buzz's offense he has to think pass first. By time he is done thinking pass it is to late for him to shoot. As far as scoring you can take the pro am average and divide it by 3 and it will approximate a starter's average. Subtract 5 from that number and you will get a reserves average. For example if Mayo averages 30 in pro am he will average 10 as a starter or 5 as a reserve. This of course is not totally accurate, but it puts the high scoring in pro am into perspective.
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Well obviously you are an idiot if you give any weight to the stats at the Pro-Am. But if you actually go to the games you can get a nice up close view of MU players offensive skill sets. They typically dominate the ball for their teams and get to showcase their skills perhaps more than they do in real games. Can be helpful in thinking about how a player may develop. You take the setting for what it is and try to think about what skills would actually transfer to a Big East game.
Exactly. Which is why extrapolating anything to the "real" games would be idiotic.
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Exactly. Which is why extrapolating anything to the "real" games would be idiotic.
I think you can recognize that they are playing a different brand of basketball at the Pro-Am and still come away with some useful insights into a player's game. I don't think it is idiotic to watch a player dribble, pass, and shoot in order to garner an opinion about a player's skill set.
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I think you can recognize that they are playing a different brand of basketball at the Pro-Am and still come away with some useful insights into a player's game. I don't think it is idiotic to watch a player dribble, pass, and shoot in order to garner an opinion about a player's skill set.
Within the context of a "real" game or official practice, no. Out of context in an open gym setting, yes.
My buddy can pull women all night long in a meat market's last call. Doesn't mean that skill set translates to a day pull from a coffee shop. Different settings lead to different talents showing. The only setting that matters for MU basketball are "real" games.
Far too many summer league stars have been more productive riding the pine then shining the hardwood to take it that seriously for skill evaluation.
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Obviously context matters and you need to keep it in mind when watching the games. If your buddy is landing women by buying shots at 2am that obviously is different than if he's leaving at 12:30 after an hour conversation with a young lady. So when I watch the Pro-Am, I discount Jake's threes because he's shooting against shorter opponents who are sagging off. But I could still glean something when I saw Otule converting six foot left handed hook shots last summer.
The Pro-Am is mostly about satiating that fix for MU basketball during the summer. But I still think that if you look closely you can see players' progression and potential for the winter.
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Not sure if this was posted, but here are some highlights from the ProAm (looks like it was just day 1):
http://midwestballers.com/marquette-players-show-out-at-the-milwaukee-pro-am/
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Who is the guy doing the play by play at the mike?
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Did you see #97 with his alley oop feed?
He's a "Point Center", I tell you! ;)
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Might be a dumb question, and sorry if it is in advance.
Is MU in on Trae Jefferson at all? That kid is unreal! Reminds me of A.I
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I havent heard anything about MU having any interest in Jefferson. And yes, he is in fact unreal!
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Trae Jefferson
Parents went with Trae rather than Thomas? A poetic moment turned prosaic.
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Parents went with Trae rather than Thomas? A poetic moment turned prosaic.
So...deliberately trying to be a judgmental ass?
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Might be a dumb question, and sorry if it is in advance.
Is MU in on Trae Jefferson at all? That kid is unreal! Reminds me of A.I
Not that I know of; I believe Damontrae reclassed to 2015... he's extremely entertaining to watch. Won't back down from anyone.
Transferred to Arlington Country Day (Fla.) before last school year. Great basketball program... he's a bit too creative at times.. but for the last couple of years has been one my favorites to watch.
I think* at this point in time the one Big East school that's shown a fair amount of interest is Seton Hall.
Looking forward to seeing him and Kevon in Vegas this week.
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So did the Pro-Am continue on this weekend? Surprised there have been no posts regarding action from the weekend and this out of towner is looking for a bit of MU basketball talk.
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So did the Pro-Am continue on this weekend? Surprised there have been no posts regarding action from the weekend and this out of towner is looking for a bit of MU basketball talk.
Yes it did. JP Tokoto even played.
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Attended part of yesterday's pro-am. Wanted to see Johnson and McKay, but neither showed up.
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Yes it did. JP Tokoto even played.
JP Tokoto is in a few of these clips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kk_3CIpNuM
I can't get enough of Burton's signature reverse sledgehammer.
I wasn't fond of the Paint Touches guys calling him Bane and all that...but yeah...it's grown on me, and he's the guy I've been most excited to see in this upcoming class.
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JP Tokoto is in a few of these clips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kk_3CIpNuM
I can't get enough of Burton's signature reverse sledgehammer.
I wasn't fond of the Paint Touches guys calling him Bane and all that...but yeah...it's grown on me, and he's the guy I've been most excited to see in this upcoming class.
Burton is very very left-handed. Going to have to work on that right hand.
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I went Friday. It was the first time I have seen JP Tokoto play. He was the best player on the floor. I liked how Burton wanted to challenge him offensively. To be honest Burton could not stop Tokoto, but on the flip side Tokoto could not stop Burton.
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D. Wilson Jr. behind the back bounce pass to JP Tokoto for the alley-opp dunk was priceless!
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D. Wilson Jr. behind the back bounce pass to JP Tokoto for the alley-opp dunk was priceless!
Yup...it was phenomenal! Never saw something like that. I'll add that it was from about 20 feet out. JP can sky!
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I'll 2nd that. You'll never see it attempted in a real game, but that was really cool.
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Yes it did. JP Tokoto even played.
Tokoto highlight
http://midwestballers.com/jp-tokoto-posterizes-defender-at-the-milwaukee-pro-am/
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There will always be a pace for you on the roster if you ver decide to come back home, JP!
;)
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The first thing I noticed about Burton was that he had both of his legs wrapped (I suppose there is a better term for this) and it seemed like his legs were bothering him. He started kind of slow and then went out and did a lot of stretching. At that point I wondered if he could play a whole season. However, when he came back in after stretching whatever seemed to bother him was no longer apparent and he became very actice. The second thing I noticed about him was his hands. He has great hands like Gardner. Hands that means a rebound is his if he gets his hands on it and if you pass him the ball and he will catch it. Hands is something you cannot coach. The last thing that became apparent to me was his two guard skills. In the second half he pushed the ball up court a couple of times and then he buried three straight threes. He appeared to be ready to go for a fourth straight three when he got fouled before he went into shooting motion. He easily gets a foot above the rim on some of his dunks. Unless he is absolutely horrible on defense he is going to play a lot this year.
He will always have issues with his legs and feet and finding the right weight to be at to me. He is a cat who might struggle with boot camp. We'll see. But he is a specimen...a big time college and NBA body right now.
But has to learn to diversify his game going right and using that right hand although he is strong enough to go left any time he wants.
Might struggle with college pace and with stamina at first. I hope this kid is not injury prone. Seems to be to me...with his body type.
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He will always have issues with his legs and feet and finding the right weight to be at to me. He is a cat who might struggle with boot camp. We'll see. But he is a specimen...a big time college and NBA body right now.
But has to learn to diversify his game going right and using that right hand although he is strong enough to go left any time he wants.
Might struggle with college pace and with stamina at first. I hope this kid is not injury prone. Seems to be to me...with his body type.
What about Burton makes you think he's injury prone? Lots of guys wear the leggings bc Wade made them cool. Other than that the only other argument would be that he is built like a horse... Confusing to me
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Burton was not wearing leggings on Friday. My first impression of him on Friday was that with three additional weeks with the trainer has made him really fit, but it really could have been the tight fitting shirt he was wearing vs what he was wearing the first time. He does not have much fat, if any on him. He has an attacking mentality and wants to dominate the game. While being able to dominate in a pro am game does not mean much, I do know tht if you cannot dominate in pro am you will not play much for Buzz. You can tell a lot about a player in these games by the attitutude they play with.
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Can you see Burton starting at the 3 this year? The opportunity is there.
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Can you see Burton starting at the 3 this year? The opportunity is there.
For the 2-4 "switchable" positions, we have 8 guys competing for three starting spots: J Wilson, McKay, JJJ, Taylor, Mayo, Anderson, Burton, and Thomas. It's going to be hard for a freshmen, who Buzz has always shied away from starting, to break into the starting role.
Personally, I think J Wilson will get the most time at the three, with McKay taking most of the time at the four.
I think Burton's best chance for starting is beating out JJJ, Anderson, and Mayo at the two. I have lofty expectations for both JJJ and Anderson, so I think Burton is a rotation player this year.
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What about Burton makes you think he's injury prone? Lots of guys wear the leggings bc Wade made them cool. Other than that the only other argument would be that he is built like a horse... Confusing to me
I agree. Hung like a horse would be better.
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For the 2-4 "switchable" positions, we have 8 guys competing for three starting spots: J Wilson, McKay, JJJ, Taylor, Mayo, Anderson, Burton, and Thomas. It's going to be hard for a freshmen, who Buzz has always shied away from starting, to break into the starting role.
Personally, I think J Wilson will get the most time at the three, with McKay taking most of the time at the four.
I think Burton's best chance for starting is beating out JJJ, Anderson, and Mayo at the two. I have lofty expectations for both JJJ and Anderson, so I think Burton is a rotation player this year.
I am less impressed with McKay than I was after the first pro am game. I love his height and quickness, but he does not dominate in Pro Am. It is hard to say who Buzz will start as it is not necessarily the best player. However, I think Buzz is big on players that put out effort all the time and that fits Burton. Whether he starts or not I believe he will score more points this year than any other newcomer.
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I agree. Hung like a horse would be better.
Your old lady telling stories about me again.
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There will always be a pace for you on the roster if you ver decide to come back home, JP!
;)
Always?........not so sure about that.
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Attended part of yesterday's pro-am. Wanted to see Johnson and McKay, but neither showed up.
Shocking.
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I agree. Hung like a horse would be better.
You answered your own question. Wade wears the leggings and he is the epitome of being injury prone. His body just looks like it will always be banged up, along with the way he plays.
Does not seem to like running for long or into cardio work or stretching on their own and lack discipline with nutrition and eating. Some cats just want to play and that is it.
That is just my impression but I could be wrong. We will see.
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Burton was not wearing leggings on Friday. My first impression of him on Friday was that with three additional weeks with the trainer has made him really fit, but it really could have been the tight fitting shirt he was wearing vs what he was wearing the first time. He does not have much fat, if any on him. He has an attacking mentality and wants to dominate the game. While being able to dominate in a pro am game does not mean much, I do know tht if you cannot dominate in pro am you will not play much for Buzz. You can tell a lot about a player in these games by the attitutude they play with.
Yes but he has thick muscle and is big boned and solid as opposed to slim. Sometimes knees and ankles and calves and hamstrings cannot carry all that muscle or weight if you do not warm up properly.
I think each player as to know their body structure and type and grow into it and learn to treat it to get ready to play at a high level on a daily basis along with managing rest to avoid some of these injuries.
Just look at all the guys who go in for surgeries every year for assorted things. It is just a hunch I have that I will leave to myself. I am not wishing anything on the guy he looks like an elite level talent, and he is ready to go right now.
MU's trainer will have his work cut out for him with this kid. We'll see.
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I want to know if Dave Singleton showed out his NBA skill set again. More pt for Dave!!
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Shocking.
As is the fact that you continue to be a d*ck about it.