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Re: 2021 Transfer Portal
« Reply #275 on: March 25, 2021, 12:46:42 PM »
It bears repeating...MU player's social media silence is incredible.  And beyond our young big 3, the lack of "thank you Coach" from Greg, Jamal, Ike, Koby or Theo is a bizarre.  Theo RT'd a congrats to Dwayne Killings and a congrats to McKinley Wright.   
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Re: 2021 Transfer Portal
« Reply #276 on: March 25, 2021, 12:49:53 PM »
It bears repeating...MU player's social media silence is incredible.  And beyond our young big 3, the lack of "thank you Coach" from Greg, Jamal, Ike, Koby or Theo is a bizarre.  Theo RT'd a congrats to Dwayne Killings and a congrats to McKinley Wright.

Might be that Killings was keeping it all together and had to talk several players into staying this season  ;)

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Re: 2021 Transfer Portal
« Reply #277 on: March 25, 2021, 01:21:52 PM »
Can you imagine what he could do for Garcia????

Sign his release paperwork?
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Re: 2021 Transfer Portal
« Reply #278 on: March 25, 2021, 01:22:36 PM »
Might be that Killings was keeping it all together and had to talk several players into staying this season  ;)
They are waiting just like us. The transfer portal is a cesspool this year. Need to know who the coach is before they can do anything.

Also really only 3-4 guys could play starter minutes next year at Power 6 schools in my opinion too.

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« Reply #279 on: March 25, 2021, 01:26:54 PM »
They are waiting just like us. The transfer portal is a cesspool this year. Need to know who the coach is before they can do anything.

Also really only 3-4 guys could play starter minutes next year at Power 6 schools in my opinion too.

I don't disagree, but that wasn't what I was responding to.

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Re: 2021 Transfer Portal
« Reply #280 on: March 25, 2021, 01:30:49 PM »
I don't think his system is a match for our current roster. I don't think a lot of our roster would want to play in his system and I'm not sure he'd want most of our roster for his system. Again, if he's THE guy, that doesn't matta.

The players won't like a 5 out offensive system? It's the same system Nova is running this year.

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Re: 2021 Transfer Portal
« Reply #281 on: March 25, 2021, 01:37:40 PM »
The players won't like a 5 out offensive system? It's the same system Nova is running this year.

Wouldn’t Dawson thrive in the Cam Krutwig high post spot?
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Re: 2021 Transfer Portal
« Reply #282 on: March 25, 2021, 01:39:11 PM »
Wouldn’t Dawson thrive in the Cam Krutwig high post spot?

Dawson wants to play in the NBA, not play a cam Krutwig 1970s big man role. That's not gonna keep him here if Moser comes.
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« Reply #283 on: March 25, 2021, 01:41:22 PM »
Dawson wants to play in the NBA, not play a cam Krutwig 1970s big man role. That's not gonna keep him here if Moser comes.

Cam’s body and lack of 3 point shooting is keeping him out of the NBA, not where he was playing.
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« Reply #284 on: March 25, 2021, 01:44:57 PM »
Cam’s body and lack of 3 point shooting is keeping him out of the NBA, not where he was playing.

Style of play is what is gonna keep DG at Marquette was more the point I am getting at. Moser's system and teh "cam krutwig role" likely isn't it.
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« Reply #285 on: March 25, 2021, 01:45:47 PM »
Sign his release paperwork?

But kinda not teal.
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Re: 2021 Transfer Portal
« Reply #286 on: March 25, 2021, 01:54:28 PM »
Greg Gard has thoughts on the transfer portal

https://twitter.com/evan_flood/status/1375126650019545092?s=21
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« Reply #287 on: March 25, 2021, 01:55:38 PM »
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Re: 2021 Transfer Portal
« Reply #288 on: March 25, 2021, 01:57:42 PM »
Wouldn’t Dawson thrive in the Cam Krutwig high post spot?

Dawson doesn't have the skills to do it. The only skill that is better than Krutwig is shooting.

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« Reply #289 on: March 25, 2021, 02:01:08 PM »
I don't think his system is a match for our current roster. I don't think a lot of our roster would want to play in his system and I'm not sure he'd want most of our roster for his system. Again, if he's THE guy, that doesn't matta.

Especially Carton. A high turnover guard is not going to thrive under Moser.

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Re: 2021 Transfer Portal
« Reply #290 on: March 25, 2021, 02:04:27 PM »
Dawson doesn't have the skills to do it. The only skill that is better than Krutwig is shooting.

To be fair, Freshman Dawson > Freshman Krutwig.
You're comparing a guy who's played 133 college games to one who's played 27.

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« Reply #291 on: March 25, 2021, 02:05:19 PM »
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« Reply #292 on: March 25, 2021, 02:06:48 PM »
Correct.

Gets at my concern that the level of recruits that would come into Moser's system won't be that different than what he gets at LUC right now. Sure, maybe we get a  Krutwig every so often and it's a big hit. But that's been the big difference maker for his success vs not success.
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« Reply #293 on: March 25, 2021, 02:17:18 PM »
The players won't like a 5 out offensive system? It's the same system Nova is running this year.

While there are some similarities between Nova and Loyola's systems, they are not the same. Wright also has a little more credibility than Moser does when it comes to getting guys into the NBA.
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« Reply #294 on: March 25, 2021, 02:20:22 PM »
Gets at my concern that the level of recruits that would come into Moser's system won't be that different than what he gets at LUC right now. Sure, maybe we get a  Krutwig every so often and it's a big hit. But that's been the big difference maker for his success vs not success.

If Bill Scholl believes Moser is the guy, then you get him and deal with the roster fallout. But these players were recruited to play in an up-tempo, pro-style offense with a man defense that aims to stay in front of opponents in the half court. If Moser is the guy, I have zero doubt there will be departures. Significantly so.

Again, if Scholl thinks he's the guy, you accept those losses because you aren't building for one year, you're building for sustained success. But Moser will have to get his guys in and show to recruits how they fit in his system. Because right now there are people telling them Moser plays slow-down ball and won't help them get to the NBA, and that will resonate louder than anything you can tell them until they actually see the results at this level.
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« Reply #295 on: March 25, 2021, 02:44:23 PM »
To be fair, Freshman Dawson > Freshman Krutwig.
You're comparing a guy who's played 133 college games to one who's played 27.

Fair enough, but I am talking base skills. Freshman Krutwig was better at passing. court awareness, defensive positioning, and low post shooting than Dawson.

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« Reply #296 on: March 25, 2021, 02:53:12 PM »
Fair enough, but I am talking base skills. Freshman Krutwig was better at passing. court awareness, defensive positioning, and low post shooting than Dawson.

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« Reply #297 on: March 25, 2021, 03:30:06 PM »
Greg Gard has thoughts on the transfer portal

https://twitter.com/evan_flood/status/1375126650019545092?s=21

Brian Butch on his radio show this week, after Wisconsin lost to Baylor, was just RANTING about more of the "to play at Wisconsin, you need to be willing to sacrifice for the team.  You need to be bigger than yourself".  The same tired trope that always comes up whenever they fall short.  Vilify everyone who doesn't want to play at Wisconsin for one reason or another.

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« Reply #298 on: March 25, 2021, 03:34:52 PM »
Brian Butch on his radio show this week, after Wisconsin lost to Baylor, was just RANTING about more of the "to play at Wisconsin, you need to be willing to sacrifice for the team.  You need to be bigger than yourself".  The same tired trope that always comes up whenever they fall short.  Vilify everyone who doesn't want to play at Wisconsin for one reason or another.

I hope he enjoyed trading his college career for a chance at the NBA.  Smoking a ton of copium if that is what he believes.

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« Reply #299 on: March 25, 2021, 03:36:25 PM »
Greg really playing to his fan base on that one.