Kolek planning to go pro
Gave up too much??? Anthony Bennett was awful last year for a 1st overall pick, Andrew Wiggins has never played a minute in the NBA, and the Cavs 1st round pick is likely to be in the high 20's. Sounds like a great deal for the Cavs.
As I mentioned above, perhaps "gave up too much" was a poor choice of words. Maybe I should have said, "gave up more than they needed to."
^ plus they're likely to get the overall #1 pick again in the next year or 2
Even that would have been off. Cleveland got a great deal. Sure they gave up Wiggins, but it's unlikely that in 5 years Wiggins will be at the level Love is at now. Aside from that, they gave up a dud (Bennett) who will probably never amount to anything, and a pick that probably won't be worth much. Finally, contrary to popular belief, Minnesota absolutely did not "have to trade" Kevin Love. They were not far off from being a playoff team last year and they could have tried to make a run with him this year and then put the ball in his court next summer to take less money to leave to playoff team. Overall I think the Wolves did the right thing by making the move, but this is clearly a win for Cleveland.
Hey, with LeBron in Cleveland the Cavs could have the best record in the NBA and if they don't win the NBA Finals they could somehow end up with the #1 overall pick, despite not being eligible for the lottery.I disagree with just about everything you said. Wiggins has huge potential, which is what you are going to get in return for a guy in his prime, someone who has a ton of potential for someone who has proven himself already. That's how trades work. In 5 years, Wiggins could very well be above the level that Kevin Love is at now. Even if he is not, it doesn't make this a bad move, because, again, if you are going to give up a guy who has proven himself in the league, you are going to be getting potential in return, and sometimes players don't reach their potential. Kevin Love was not staying with the Timberwolves and that has been incredibly clear for a long, long time. Keeping him would've been a complete waste. Absolute best case scenario with Love on the roster is what, battling for an 8 seed in the West? Sweet, you get a date with the Spurs, Thunder, or Clippers and see 4 Playoff games. Welcome to the Bucks (prior to this past season). Stuck in the limbo that is mediocrity and watching your star player walk away for nothing. They absolutely had to trade Love.
Hey, with LeBron in Cleveland the Cavs could have the best record in the NBA and if they don't win the NBA Finals they could somehow end up with the #1 overall pick, despite not being eligible for the lottery.I think he means the t-wolves could end up with the #1 pick from there own pick, you know, cause they are going to suck
Chicago was offering a pretty nice package to Minnesota
I saw Gibson, Butler and #1 pick. That's a brutal, awful package.
Yeah, two role players and a pick in the 20 range? Blah. No one over-values their assets more than the Chicago Bulls.
Bulls had a longstanding offer of Gibson, Mirotic, #1 pick (ended up being McDermott).
That's just as bad. A 30 year old role player and 2 rookies for a guy who may be top 10 in the league.Maybe they could get Ricky Rubio for the same offer
http://grantland.com/features/kevin-love-lebron-james-trade-minnesota-timberwolves/Here's ammo if you love Kevin Love and think he is one of the top 10-12 players in the NBA -- or -- if you think he'is just an overrated gunner who's never even played on a team that was .500I lean towards the latter, but......
Love can flat out hoop. Bron, Irvin', and Love are better than Bron, Wade, and Bosh.
Better than with a crippled Wade.Otherwise, I'd take the Lebron, Wade, & Bosh from 3 years ago before Lebron, Irving, and Love now.Let's see at least 4 straight finals before I change my mind.
Of course.LeBron/Wade/Bosh = Proven Champions.LeBron/Love/Irving = We'll see.
I took the easy argument.But I do think that the Wade of 4 years ago was a much better player than Love is now.