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Author Topic: Marquette to change/update University Seal  (Read 21733 times)

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Marquette to change/update University Seal
« on: March 22, 2021, 09:57:14 PM »
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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2021, 10:14:56 PM »
What's wrong with changing it?
MU changes its basketball uniforms seemingly every year and no one sees it as an affront.
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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2021, 10:19:19 PM »
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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2021, 10:47:22 PM »
Relevant links:
https://marquettewire.org/4034059/news/marquette-student-starts-petition-to-change-university-seal/

1869 painting by German-American artist Wilhelm Alfred Lamprecht named “Father Marquette and the Indians.”:
https://digitalmarquette.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p128701coll4/id/30/

Keep the kettle wolves, please.
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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2021, 03:11:05 AM »
Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 22, 2021, 09:57:14 PM
https://today.marquette.edu/2021/03/committee-working-on-updating-university-seal/

What is wrong with the seal as it is?

I’m as Conservative as they come, but I have to agree with Pakuni on this one. If you look at that seal and see anything other than Jordan Spieth telling his lowly caddy “GO GET THAT!” then you aren’t seeing the big picture.

I’m 100% sick of cancel culture and revisionist history, but I haven’t liked that seal since the first day I saw it back in the late 1980s. To me, it’s its own revisionist history, as the Natives knew the rivers and tributaries far better than our beloved Peres Marquette and Joliet. I think a more accurate description would have a tribal leader pointing the way for a subordinate Native rower while the Europeans sit and take notes of topography and surroundings.
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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2021, 04:33:41 AM »
I think it would be cool to have an actual, live seal.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2021, 04:41:57 AM by Fluffy Blue Monster »
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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2021, 06:10:50 AM »
Have any of you SEEN the new seal?  How can you comment on whether its good or bad by a 1 sentence description?
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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2021, 06:39:06 AM »
I didn't even know we had a seal. Does he juggle with his nose while he plays a horn?
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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2021, 06:41:19 AM »
Wee gotta bee more woke, aina?
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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2021, 06:47:12 AM »
The school has money for this chit? Seriously, pay a top flight basketball coach and let's make MU great again, aina?
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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2021, 07:30:08 AM »
As long as none of the committee members were involved with the Marquette Gold fiasco I’m good.....
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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2021, 07:43:19 AM »
A new Seal?

We're never gonna survive
Unless
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Ok.   Not so new.
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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2021, 07:46:51 AM »
Quote from: Pakuni on March 22, 2021, 10:14:56 PM
What's wrong with changing it?
MU changes its basketball uniforms seemingly every year and no one sees it as an affront.

I’ve got no problem with them changing the seal. But that’s a silly comparison.
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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2021, 07:49:52 AM »
Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 23, 2021, 07:46:51 AM
I’ve got no problem with them changing the seal. But that’s a silly comparison.


OK fine.  They change the logo every decade.
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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2021, 07:50:42 AM »
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 23, 2021, 07:49:52 AM

OK fine.  They change the logo every decade.

Better. But still a bit silly.
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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2021, 08:04:32 AM »
Quote from: Warriors4ever on March 23, 2021, 07:30:08 AM
As long as none of the committee members were involved with the Marquette Gold fiasco I’m good.....

Replace the Native American on the seal with Bricky, and you are golden (pun intended).
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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2021, 09:00:45 AM »
Don't over-think it.

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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2021, 09:03:32 AM »
South Park changed their flag, so this isn't without precedent.
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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2021, 09:17:00 AM »
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on March 23, 2021, 09:00:45 AM
Don't over-think it.




Can we have the wolves fighting over a beef 'n cheddar?
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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2021, 09:25:08 AM »
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 23, 2021, 04:33:41 AM
I think it would be cool to have an actual, live seal.

Yes.
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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2021, 09:42:27 AM »
We know why they are going to change the seal.  See the thread about the Chicago statues.

Should we start a thread about what the University's new name will be?

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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2021, 09:43:50 AM »
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on March 23, 2021, 09:42:27 AM
We know why they are going to change the seal.  See the thread about the Chicago statues.

Should we start a thread about what the University's new name will be?



If the seal is just changed to a less stereotypical Indian and Marquette isn't standing & pointing then will you be upset?
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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2021, 09:44:29 AM »
Quote from: NorthernDancerColt on March 23, 2021, 03:11:05 AM
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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2021, 09:48:00 AM »
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 23, 2021, 09:43:50 AM
If the seal is just changed to a less stereotypical Indian and Marquette isn't standing & pointing then will you be upset?

Let's not pretend we don't know where this is going. You're naive if you think this ends with the seal. This is just the first pitch of a nine-inning game.
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Re: Marquette to change/update University Seal
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2021, 09:51:25 AM »
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on March 23, 2021, 09:48:00 AM
Let's not pretend we don't know where this is going. You're naive if you think this ends with the seal. This is just the first pitch of a nine-inning game.


They will remove the native imagery.  No doubt.

The University will not be renamed. 
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