Oso planning to go pro
I should have written they have called his views crazy. I think you called me psychotic and basically a warmonger for believing we should be far more forceful and not give crap about Putin's threats. Kasparov tends to agree with me. The fact of the matter is everything we and NATO countries have done thus far is reactive to Putin's actions and moronic statements. But let's set this aside for a moment and talk about a potential scenario:Assuming this drags out a month, or 2-3 weeks, and Putin decides to carpet bomb, gas people, or God forbid use some kind of nuclear weapon. We know his short-term goal at this point has to be to subjugate the Ukrainian people in any way possible. To me it's very plausible he will get more and more ruthless and kill as many civilians as he can. Then what? Do we and NATO just sit on our ass and say to ourselves....."well he didn't attack a NATO country?" What if he bombs Lviv and the radiation hits Poland ? Is that an attack on a NATO country? I don't want to upset anyone here but I believe (and have believed since day 1) that stopping this now is a better option than waiting for this genocide to continue and the potential horrific aftermath of him controlling large parts of Ukraine and staying in power.
NATO has already said that radiation that blows into a NATO country constitutes an attack and will be grounds to invoke Article 5.Still curious why you care about the relatively minor genocide in Ukraine more than the others being perpetrated worldwide.
Poland bulking up, purchasing Abrams main battle tanks. I thought this comparison between the M1A1 and the Russian T-72, which is still the bulk of the Russian tanks, was quite interesting.
America in a nutshell...Genocide in Bucha. Stories coming out that Mariupol may be much much worse. And on scoop, we're having another dick measuring contest for Biden and Trump.
Mugs and the Dentist keep bringing up August, but yeah it’s a “dick measuring contest.” 🙄
Especially when Russia was stockpiling troops and armament close to the Ukraine border as of Apr 1, 2021.
Ok, that image does nothing other than prove that the M1 is bigger, and (not proven by the image) technically superior. But tanks are a funny antiquated thing. As proven by the Javelin missile - I don't know why any country would spend their money on a tank today.
Fine. April 2021.
He's more knowledgeable and obviously smarter than anyone here Hards.
Oh, totally agree that tanks are obsolete against advanced anti-weaponry...which Russia clearly doesn't possess. If the conflict should spill over to a NATO country, however, the M1A1 is so superior to anything the Russians have, including the T-80, it would be a one-sided battle.
A1? The *world* will never be in a tank battle again. And it's never really been a tank battle, that's just something that makes militaries feel good. But the A1 is 1980s technology. Weaponry to take out tanks is almost older than tanks themselves. Tanks can't keep up. As I mentioned, the Javelin, a handled rocket can take out *any* modern tank from miles away. And that's not even mentioning the *cheap* airborne options. Watch this video, Javelins cost more than most Russian tanks, and we've been giving those away.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6COKC5ZU6gMPoland and the Ukraine ain't buying any tanks, they have more obsolete versions of those from Russia than they could even use.edit: anyone that thinks the Ukraine has been getting along "amazingly" without copious US militarily aid is smoking something"Since February, the United States has provided the country with more than $2 billion in aid"https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/national-international/biden-admin-to-send-100m-in-javelin-missiles-to-ukraine/3199240/
edit: anyone that thinks the Ukraine has been getting along "amazingly" without copious US militarily aid is smoking something"Since February, the United States has provided the country with more than $2 billion in aid"https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/national-international/biden-admin-to-send-100m-in-javelin-missiles-to-ukraine/3199240/
Sorry, should have said A2. My bad.And while I agree with you that tanks are outdated against modern opponents, it appears that on the other side of NATO the only country that can qualify as modern is China.And Poland disagrees with you about buying tanks:https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2022/04/05/poland-signs-475-billion-abrams-tank-deal-as-russias-war-speeds-procurements/
And Poland disagrees with you about buying tanks:https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2022/04/05/poland-signs-475-billion-abrams-tank-deal-as-russias-war-speeds-procurements/
Ah yes, the Poles, the dudes who rode horses into battle against German tanks in WW2.
To expand on this, a Switchblade 600 costs around $70k. An M1 Abarams costs $6.21 million. Tank warfare is dead, and the Russians weren't even doing it right. Those tank crews were meant to intimidate and speed rush land grabs.