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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: HoopsMalone on February 21, 2010, 04:37:43 PM

Title: BE Coach of the Year
Post by: HoopsMalone on February 21, 2010, 04:37:43 PM
It looks like Dixon at Pitt has to be the favorite.  His team has now beaten Marq and Nova this week, so he and Boeheim have got to be the front runners.  Buzz may still get some votes, but hard for him to overcome Dixon now.
Title: Re: BE Coach of the Year
Post by: 77ncaachamps on February 21, 2010, 04:47:55 PM
I think Boeheim is still the favorite, but Dixon is definitely the sentimental one at this point. Jay Wright would probably finish third.
Title: It definitely won't be Mickey Cronin
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on February 21, 2010, 04:53:44 PM
Why they had some of their best players on the bench at the end of the 2nd half, and why they didn't go more inside is beyond me.  Gates only played 22 minutes and killed us on 6 of 9 shooting. 
Title: Re: It definitely won't be Mickey Cronin
Post by: The Pickle on February 21, 2010, 04:57:01 PM
Why they had some of their best players on the bench at the end of the 2nd half, and why they didn't go more inside is beyond me.  Gates only played 22 minutes and killed us on 6 of 9 shooting. 

Cronin = moron.  Especially after our last game against Pitt.  Did they not get tape of that game? 
Title: Re: BE Coach of the Year
Post by: jaygall31 on February 21, 2010, 04:58:22 PM
if people would realize the difference in talent (particularly size), Buzz would BE coach of the year
Title: Re: It definitely won't be Mickey Cronin
Post by: avid1010 on February 21, 2010, 04:59:45 PM
Why they had some of their best players on the bench at the end of the 2nd half, and why they didn't go more inside is beyond me.  Gates only played 22 minutes and killed us on 6 of 9 shooting. 

If Cronin didn't do so for non-basketball related reasons, he should give a game check back to Cincy at the very least!
Title: Re: BE Coach of the Year
Post by: jaygall31 on February 21, 2010, 05:20:07 PM
IT should be Buzz, no question.
Title: Re: BE Coach of the Year
Post by: Daniel on February 21, 2010, 05:30:27 PM
The COY should represent someone who did the unexpected.  Buzz, so far, fits that bill nicely.  We need to win the next one.  The most important game of the year is always the nest one.  Let's do it!

GO MARQUETTE!!  And Go Buzz!
Title: Re: BE Coach of the Year
Post by: HoopsMalone on February 21, 2010, 05:32:39 PM
The COY should represent someone who did the unexpected.  Buzz, so far, fits that bill nicely.  We need to win the next one.  The most important game of the year is always the nest one.  Let's do it!

GO MARQUETTE!!  And Go Buzz!

Pitt was not supposed to be a top 4 team, Pitt beat us head to head, and Pitt will finish ahead of us.  Dixon beats Buzz here, but that does not mean Buzz has done one heck of a job.  He has proved that he is capable of coaching.
Title: Re: BE Coach of the Year
Post by: goodgreatgrand on February 21, 2010, 05:35:58 PM
Syracuse wasn't picked to finish better than sixth, I believe. Plus, they lost 4 of their top 6 players from last year. To be a top 5 team in the country now and in first place in the conference is "unexpected."
Title: Re: BE Coach of the Year
Post by: ErickJD08 on February 21, 2010, 05:43:12 PM
The only argument for Buzz over Dixon is that this is Buzz's second year and he doesn't have a system in place to replace guys to graduation.  Other than that, Buzz and Dixon had similar losses (leadership, point guard, starters) to their team and Dixon is doing better.  I love Buzz and he is getting the absolute most out of this team but Dixon should get it.  Pitt's having a great season.
Title: Re: BE Coach of the Year
Post by: flash on February 21, 2010, 05:48:41 PM
It is a little early to annoint buzz williams big east coach of the year in my opinion.  He is definatley in the discussion though.  I think he first needs to lead us to the tournament which means we have to have at least a 10-8 big east record. He has done an outstanding job taking a team who lost arguably three of the best players to play for marquette, and leading them as far as we have come.  I'd like to see him finish the job and get us into the tourney. 
Title: Re: BE Coach of the Year
Post by: BrewCity83 on February 21, 2010, 05:52:31 PM
Too soon.  MU could still finish 8-10 in conference.  That sure wouldn't do it.  But they could also finish 12-6.  That might do it for Buzz.
Title: Re: BE Coach of the Year
Post by: Daniel on February 21, 2010, 05:57:29 PM
It is too soon - we have to keep winning.  The next game is most important - so let's GO MARQUETTE!

Title: Re: BE Coach of the Year
Post by: willie warrior on February 21, 2010, 06:13:59 PM
Dixon or Boeheim, hands down with what they lost from last year. And I am no Boeheim cheerleader. Always thought he was a whiner--but he does get the job done.
Title: Re: BE Coach of the Year
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on February 21, 2010, 06:21:08 PM
Dixon or Boeheim, hands down with what they lost from last year. And I am no Boeheim cheerleader. Always thought he was a whiner--but he does get the job done.

But, if Buzz would get Acker and Cubillan out of there and play someone else, he'd be a shoo in right Willie?
Title: Re: BE Coach of the Year
Post by: bilsu on February 21, 2010, 08:18:00 PM
The argument depends on if it should go to the coach of the team that has the most talent and does well or the coach with lesser talent that exceeds expectations. The coach is responsible for bringing in the talent. So Boheim built his team and should get credit for it. Three of MU key players were not recruited by Buzz. What Buzz has done with this team has far exceeded my expectations, but when you look at the whole picture you have to give it to Dixon or Boheim.
Title: Re: BE Coach of the Year
Post by: ErickJD08 on February 21, 2010, 09:19:39 PM
It is a little early to annoint buzz williams big east coach of the year in my opinion.  He is definatley in the discussion though.  I think he first needs to lead us to the tournament which means we have to have at least a 10-8 big east record. He has done an outstanding job taking a team who lost arguably three of the best players to play for marquette, and leading them as far as we have come.  I'd like to see him finish the job and get us into the tourney. 

Pitt lost Young, Fields, and Blair.  Pitt's ranked and is having a great season.  If we would have beat Pitt, then I would say Buzz gets the nod over Dixon.  But Pitt won and (at least to the world outside of MU) is better than us.
Title: Re: BE Coach of the Year
Post by: Blackhat on February 21, 2010, 09:24:36 PM
Seeing as I think this year's talent equals a rebuilding year and was unsure on Buzz's defensive coaching,  I've been very pleasantly surprised thus far.

I think I underestimated a couple players though:

1) Jimmy Butler-kid is sooo efficient and a foul drawing machine
2) DJO- didn't know he was going to be this good an outside shooter
3) Acker- has looked more solid than I expected even as a 5th year senior.... think he's at his best passing around the perimeter rather than trying to create too often.  Not bad for a guy who probably wasn't going to play if Cadougan never gets injured after being kicked off the team.