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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: Marqevans on November 24, 2012, 10:38:13 PM
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A story book season.
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Now to take on....Georgia! Yes I said Georgia! Called them to beat Bama to go to the Title game so lets see what happens..
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A story book season.
Gonna end with a beat down from the SEC champ!
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I realize this means MU's AD is a happy guy about *his school*, but this is SUPERBAR material, guy.
ROLL TIDE!
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A story book season.
One book I'm fine with them burning.
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ROLL TIDE
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Eff the Irish.
Refs handed them three games. Gotta be blind to miss that.
Eff the Irish. ;D
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One book I'm fine with them burning.
Burn baby burn!
Go $EC!!!!!!!!!!!! F the Irish and the 4 Horsemen they rode in on!
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Who the Eff are the Irish?
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I guess I'll be the only one on here cheering for them in the national championship game. I have friends and children of friends that went there and have gone on to be successful, outstanding folks. I could give a rat's a** about Georgia or Alabama. Good luck Irish!
And I'll expect LW to have his Irish football jersey on that day. I can picture him absolutely driving his wife nuts during the game. Those are his teammates for God's sake. And if they happen to win, man up and congratulate him next time you see him.
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I hate Alabama. I hate ND more. Go Bama.
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I hate Alabama. I hate ND more. Go Bama.
+2
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I guess I'll be the only one on here cheering for them in the national championship game.
You're not alone. My dad gave me an ND pennant when I was 5 and started going to games soon after (I know, child abuse!). Really like this year's team.
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Really torn. I enjoyed watching them get humbled for all of those years, but I found myself rooting for them last night. Probably, the more their fans start babbling, the more I will be rooting for whoever plays them.
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I rooted for them also, but the only reason was to see how they do against probably Bama. Two great defenses will result in a great game.
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I guess I'll be the only one on here cheering for them in the national championship game. I have friends and children of friends that went there and have gone on to be successful, outstanding folks. I could give a rat's a** about Georgia or Alabama. Good luck Irish!
And I'll expect LW to have his Irish football jersey on that day. I can picture him absolutely driving his wife nuts during the game. Those are his teammates for God's sake. And if they happen to win, man up and congratulate him next time you see him.
You're not alone, my wife went to ND so I'll be pulling for the Irish in the national championship. Plus I'm sick of the SEC recent dominance.
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If Bama can even get past Gurshall and the Dawgs.
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Grew up Irish Catholic in Chicago. There was only one College football team to root for as far as my family was concerned. Went to Marquette and learned to hate Digger and ND basketball. Am now the proud father of two ND grads. Biggest mistake was not getting them up to see Marquette basketball games when they were in grade school and early high school. The scholarship offers from Marquette would have saved me a lot of money! LOL
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Grew up Irish Catholic in Chicago. There was only one College football team to root for as far as my family was concerned. Went to Marquette and learned to hate Digger and ND basketball. Am now the proud father of two ND grads. Biggest mistake was not getting them up to see Marquette basketball games when they were in grade school and early high school. The scholarship offers from Marquette would have saved me a lot of money! LOL
The key is to get your kids interested in majors that ND doesn't offer. That was our strategy. ;)
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Roll Tide. I will be the biggest Bama or Georgia fan come national championship time. I cant bear see ND winning anything let alone a natty.
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Torn as well. Chicago Irish Catholic blah blah...went to MU, learned to hate 'em (0-6 will do that to you). Kept hating, until kids went to ND sports camp (would have been nice if MU had overnight camps...). Son in particular fell under the influence, and is likely to go there (though he threw me and MrsLegs a bone and applied to MU as well).
We had a serious discussion about this when he was around 10 or 11 as I could see this developing, he told me that he would go to ND if he was a football player, but promised that if he was a basketball player, he would go to Marquette. Turns out he's a mathlete, do I don't know what that means.
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Torn as well. Chicago Irish Catholic blah blah...went to MU, learned to hate 'em (0-6 will do that to you). Kept hating, until kids went to ND sports camp (would have been nice if MU had overnight camps...). Son in particular fell under the influence, and is likely to go there (though he threw me and MrsLegs a bone and applied to MU as well).
We had a serious discussion about this when he was around 10 or 11 as I could see this developing, he told me that he would go to ND if he was a football player, but promised that if he was a basketball player, he would go to Marquette. Turns out he's a mathlete, do I don't know what that means.
Maybe Fr Naus can exorcise that demon from Lloyd jr. ;)
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Eff the Irish.
Refs handed them three games. Gotta be blind to miss that.
Eff the Irish. ;D
There were some questionable calls in other games (namely Stanford) but the horrid pass interference call on 4th down against Pitt gave ND that win (the refs ignoring two #2 on the field didn't help either).
Grew up Irish Catholic in Chicago. There was only one College football team to root for as far as my family was concerned. Went to Marquette and learned to hate Digger and ND basketball. Am now the proud father of two ND grads. Biggest mistake was not getting them up to see Marquette basketball games when they were in grade school and early high school. The scholarship offers from Marquette would have saved me a lot of money! LOL
Also grew up a good Catholic boy in Chicagoland which made me an ND fan by default. It was actually my top choice for college...and then I took two visits there and absolutely HATED it. Just about everyone I met, from students to admins to faculty, fit the pretentious ND stereotype to a T. I didn't even open my acceptance letter.
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Hate the Irish, but hate the SEC even more. This will be one of the rare times I cheer for Notre Dame. Not sure how they ended up undefeated, the Luck of the Irish certainly came to play this year. Besides, I'd rather have a university that at least attempts to do it the right way (yes, they fail at times) than some of the nonsense in the SEC.
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Merritsmustache, we must have met the same people on our campus visit. I knew I would never go there an hour into my visit. Same thing at Michigan.
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I guess I'll be the only one on here cheering for them in the national championship game. I have friends and children of friends that went there and have gone on to be successful, outstanding folks. I could give a rat's a** about Georgia or Alabama. Good luck Irish!
And I'll expect LW to have his Irish football jersey on that day. I can picture him absolutely driving his wife nuts during the game. Those are his teammates for God's sake. And if they happen to win, man up and congratulate him next time you see him.
As others have said, you won't be alone. My dad went there and I grew up rooting for ND. During four years at MU, I learned to hate them in basketball, and still do. But I've always rooted for the football team. It's been a fun year. I certainly don't think they've got the best team in the country, but the defense is very good. I'm not exactly expecting a win, but if the defense can keep the score down, anything can happen.
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Glad this was moved to the Superbar. Why would we congratulate the Irish? Should we also congratulate the Badgers on winning their division of the Big Ten?
ND is a good team that had some lucky games. They would be the seventh best team in the SEC in my opinion. I hope they get smoked by Georgia or Alabama.
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Nobody goes undefeated without a little luck. Hell, Alabama/Georgia winner is lucky that K-State and Oregon both choked games they had no business losing. Yup, ND got some breaks, some gifts, some bad calls go their way. But they took advantage of all of them and they earned it. Regardless of my feelings for some of their alums, subway alums, and most importantly Digger, this year's team is playing for the National Championship, and not by accident. So, Kudos, and go to hell.
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Glad this was moved to the Superbar. Why would we congratulate the Irish? Should we also congratulate the Badgers on winning their division of the Big Ten?
ND is a good team that had some lucky games. They would be the seventh best team in the SEC in my opinion. I hope they get smoked by Georgia or Alabama.
Because our school doesn't have a football team, might as well pick another Catholic school to root for.
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Nobody goes undefeated without a little luck. Hell, Alabama/Georgia winner is lucky that K-State and Oregon both choked games they had no business losing. Yup, ND got some breaks, some gifts, some bad calls go their way. But they took advantage of all of them and they earned it. Regardless of my feelings for some of their alums, subway alums, and most importantly Digger, this year's team is playing for the National Championship, and not by accident. So, Kudos, and go to hell.
As far as winning the national championship goes, that might have been unlucky for Notre Dame. I can't help but think ND would have had a better chance of winning the Championship if just one of those two teams would have lost. Alabama is a tougher match-up than either Oregon or KState would have been (although they're both pretty tough too).
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Glad this was moved to the Superbar. Why would we congratulate the Irish? Should we also congratulate the Badgers on winning their division of the Big Ten?
ND is a good team that had some lucky games. They would be the seventh best team in the SEC in my opinion. I hope they get smoked by Georgia or Alabama.
Bucky badly backed into the Division championship. But sure, I hope they win this weekend. Probably won't happen though.
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Because our school doesn't have a football team, might as well pick another Catholic school to root for.
Why? And if you have to pick another Catholic school... anyone but Notre Dame.
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If not ND then......Boston College? Aren't they the only 2 Catholic Universities playing D1 football?
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Why? And if you have to pick another Catholic school... anyone but Notre Dame.
Maybe I'll root for a school that doesn't look down on us, that isn't a long-time rival and didn't leave the Big East after saying they were committed to keeping the conference together. Roll Tide!
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If you have to pick a team, it shouldn't be ND. It's like support the Galactic Empire because it came from the Galactic Senate.
Go with Northwestern then.
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Grew up a good Catholic boy, rooting for ND. A combination of going to Marquette, where I finally learned that ND was the Evil Empire, and a truly obnoxious ND grad from my HS class put me in the correct frmae of mind. Go whoever ND plays.
PS. Said obnoxious ND grad popped up on FB with a pretentious post per day since they became #1. Go back into the hole you came from.
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Grew up a good Catholic boy, rooting for ND. A combination of going to Marquette, where I finally learned that ND was the Evil Empire, and a truly obnoxious ND grad from my HS class put me in the correct frmae of mind. Go whoever ND plays.
PS. Said obnoxious ND grad popped up on FB with a pretentious post per day since they became #1. Go back into the hole you came from.
Ding ding ding.
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Grew up a good Catholic boy, rooting for ND. A combination of going to Marquette, where I finally learned that ND was the Evil Empire, and a truly obnoxious ND grad from my HS class put me in the correct frmae of mind. Go whoever ND plays.
PS. Said obnoxious ND grad popped up on FB with a pretentious post per day since they became #1. Go back into the hole you came from.
I can top all. Grew up in SB area with the ND AD for a neighbor. Nice guy. Went to school and hung out with the guy's kids.
Eff ND. Good lord, that tuchdown Jesus, we're god's team crap gets old. Eff ND. ;)
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I root for ND because MU doesn't have a team, my older brother went there, and I was introduced to college football with ND.
I have met my fair share of ND tools and elitists. But I have met some really solid people too. If you want to talk to some elitist football fans, just venture to the south for a weekend. If you don't leave hoping to never heard "SEC BABY!" or anything of the like in a southern twang, I would be shocked.
Bottomline, their fans may be tough to deal with (I think every Packer fan should look yourself in the mirror before talking about annoying fanbases) but the university does stand for good morals and an education.
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It's kinda like someone who went to Army rooting for the Navy. Ain't gonna happen.
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I find myself in the Guns N Ammo camp on ND football.
There fanbase as a whole is insufferable, but some of my best friends went there.
They're better than most about at least trying to do it the right way, but they'll remind you of it ad nauseum.
I don't like the "Touchdown Jesus" stuff, but I don't like the anti Catholic bigotry of some of their detractors either.
Bottom line:by any measuable metric I should root for an ND win (especially over an Alabama or a Georgia) - but my heart won't be in it.
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(http://media.mlive.com/kzgazette/sports_impact/photo/declan-sullivan-d4ad4021e6af4923.jpg)
At least Declan Sullivan died for a national championship opportunity.
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(http://media.mlive.com/kzgazette/sports_impact/photo/declan-sullivan-d4ad4021e6af4923.jpg)
At least Declan Sullivan died for a national championship opportunity.
Stay classy...
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Stay classy...
Did I say something wrong?
I'm sure all that practice tape he got before falling 50+ feet helped Brian Kelly get that ND football team to where they are at today.
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Was in Vegas week before Thanksgiving. Irish (ranked #3 in BCS at the time) were sitting there at 8-1, seemed like a steal.
$50 later, all I can say is go Irish!
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Did I say something wrong?
I'm sure all that practice tape he got before falling 50+ feet helped Brian Kelly get that ND football team to where they are at today.
Just a wee bit over the top....even for me.
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Just a wee bit over the top....even for me.
Just making sure everyone remembers, it wasn't that long a ago he was forced by Brian Kelly to use a scissor lift in 50 MPH+ winds.
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Nobody goes undefeated without a little luck. Hell, Alabama/Georgia winner is lucky that K-State and Oregon both choked games they had no business losing. Yup, ND got some breaks, some gifts, some bad calls go their way. But they took advantage of all of them and they earned it. Regardless of my feelings for some of their alums, subway alums, and most importantly Digger, this year's team is playing for the National Championship, and not by accident. So, Kudos, and go to hell.
This exactly, especially that go to hell part
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Just making sure everyone remembers, it wasn't that long a ago he was forced by Brian Kelly to use a scissor lift in 50 MPH+ winds.
"Forced" may not be the best word... "coerced," perhaps.
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Count me as an ND backer in fb cause no MU football. Alabama has its players on head ballooning HGH and is scum. SEC is shady, so is ND (haven't had an academic casualty in fb in forever and they let in some questionables, academic restrictions is a myth) but not to their level.
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Just making sure everyone remembers, it wasn't that long a ago he was forced by Brian Kelly to use a scissor lift in 50 MPH+ winds.
Bringing up a kid's death in this discussion is a bit low class IMO.
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Bringing up a kid's death in this discussion is a bit low class IMO.
People are discussing why they like/dislike ND. That qualifies as a reason to dislike ND, no?
Not sure the "class" argument has a leg to stand on when the program's negligence led to a kid's death.
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People are discussing why they like/dislike ND. That qualifies as a reason to dislike ND, no?
Not sure the "class" argument has a leg to stand on when the program's negligence led to a kid's death.
Thank you, my point exactly.
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And the Lizzy Seeberg cover-up which makes MU's blunder look like a balloon party.
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People are discussing why they like/dislike ND. That qualifies as a reason to dislike ND, no?
Not sure the "class" argument has a leg to stand on when the program's negligence led to a kid's death.
If you have to pick a team, it shouldn't be ND. It's like support the Galactic Empire because it came from the Galactic Senate.
Go with Northwestern then.
HA! You really think this person's dislike of ND stems from safety policies? Please.
Some people must live perfect lives. If everyone judged based on a singular action or failure of action, then you wouldn't like anyone. PTM, Northwestern had a kid die on the practice field in 2001, you don't seem to care. A bit two-faced, but that doesn't surprise me.
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Did I say something wrong?
I'm sure all that practice tape he got before falling 50+ feet helped Brian Kelly get that ND football team to where they are at today.
I don't know who you are but that post was extremely low. I know the family and Declan's father is a Marquette grad. They have been extremely understanding toward the university. To have someone post his picture for something like this is unbecoming of a Marquette student or alum. I only hope his dad never visits this site along with the many friends he had that went to Marquette from Carmel high school. I am sorry I ever started this thread.
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HA! You really think this person's dislike of ND stems from safety policies? Please.
Some people must live perfect lives. If everyone judged based on a singular action or failure of action, then you wouldn't like anyone. PTM, Northwestern had a kid die on the practice field in 2001, you don't seem to care. A bit two-faced, but that doesn't surprise me.
I never said I liked Northwestern.
Rashidi Wheeler's death is a bit different than Declan Sullivan's. Not to mention it was 11 years ago and a whole coaching staff has changed since.
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I don't know who you are but that post was extremely low. I know the family and Declan's father is a Marquette grad. They have been extremely understanding toward the university. To have someone post his picture for something like this is unbecoming of a Marquette student or alum. I only hope his dad never visits this site along with the many friends he had that went to Marquette from Carmel high school. I am sorry I ever started this thread.
This is good.
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I don't know who you are but that post was extremely low. I know the family and Declan's father is a Marquette grad. They have been extremely understanding toward the university. To have someone post his picture for something like this is unbecoming of a Marquette student or alum. I only hope his dad never visits this site along with the many friends he had that went to Marquette from Carmel high school. I am sorry I ever started this thread.
+1.
IMO, since the University has admitted its mistake, and the family has accepted their apology and whatever came with that, who are we to continuously pick at the scab? In many ways the family's reaction has been the model of Christian forgiveness. But we get to keep bringing it up?
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Maybe Fr Naus can exorcise that demon from Lloyd jr. ;)
I have the 5 pack (including ND game), so maybe a five game sweep will do it?!?!
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+1.
IMO, since the University has admitted its mistake, and the family has accepted their apology and whatever came with that, who are we to continuously pick at the scab? In many ways the family's reaction has been the model of Christian forgiveness. But we get to keep bringing it up?
Entirely agree, it should never be brought up again. Move along, nothing to see here.
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One thing is for sure. I am an ND fan but even I will get tired of ESPN talking about ND in the NC game. 42 more friggin days of this.
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One thing is for sure. I am an ND fan but even I will get tired of ESPN talking about ND in the NC game. 42 more friggin days of this.
We can agree on that then.
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When I was watching the Notre Dame, USC game at B Dubs my dad and I were the only two people in the joint cheering for USC. I lived in Chicago to before going to MU but grew up a Northwestern football fan. I dont get why so many people from Chicago are ND fans. That being said every one of their fans that night were obnoxious as all hell.
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nm
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Count me as an ND backer in fb cause no MU football. Alabama has its players on head ballooning HGH and is scum. SEC is shady, so is ND (haven't had an academic casualty in fb in forever and they let in some questionables, academic restrictions is a myth) but not to their level.
Julius Jones flunked out of ND in the early 2000s but was later allowed back in.
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IMO, since the University has admitted its mistake, and the family has accepted their apology and whatever came with that, who are we to continuously pick at the scab?
Not saying it didn't happen, I may have missed it, but did Notre Dame admit wrong doing? Last I remember, their AD was saying they had no idea it was going to be windy that day, despite everyone in the Midwest knowing damn well it was going to be historically windy.
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Julius Jones flunked out of ND in the early 2000s but was later allowed back in.
That's true. He flunked out and then worked his way back in. How many star athletes flunk out of the SEC schools?
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That's true. He flunked out and then worked his way back in. How many star athletes flunk out of the SEC schools?
Oh, so now the bar is SEC schools?
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Not saying it didn't happen, I may have missed it, but did Notre Dame admit wrong doing?
http://newsinfo.nd.edu/news/21587-notre-dame-investigation-finds-four-primary-factors-led-to-declan-sullivan-tragedy/
“The University, then, is collectively responsible.”
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http://newsinfo.nd.edu/news/21587-notre-dame-investigation-finds-four-primary-factors-led-to-declan-sullivan-tragedy/
“The University, then, is collectively responsible.”
Reading that report made me feel sick.
Not sure how they can honestly claim that a key factor was "Staff members’ lack of knowledge regarding on-the-field wind speeds" when it was apparent to everyone in the Midwest (including Declan Sullivan!) that the high winds made it incredibly unsafe to be up in that lift.
The line that got me was "we have reached the conclusion that no one acted in disregard for safety" because it was blatant disregard for safety.
While the university did take responsibility, they ultimately did so in a cowardly fashion.
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I think the point was that there wasn't a willful disregard for safety, but an ignorance of what was considered safe use of equipment. IOW, Kelly and/or his staff didn't say "I don't care how windy it is, put the kid up in the lift." They were simply ignorant. Which is still a big, big problem and shouldn't absolve the University from blame.
And again, if the family is sincerely comfortable with how it has been resolved, then I am as well.
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Oh, so now the bar is SEC schools?
What will you be saying if Mayo returns?
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What will you be saying if Mayo returns?
I won't be saying anything, but I don't hold my nose and pretend Marquette is better than everyone... like Notre Dame does.
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And again, if the family is sincerely comfortable with how it has been resolved, then I am as well.
I suppose that's the best way to look at it (even though I still think the ND administration is full of it).
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I suppose that's the best way to look at it (even though I still think the ND administration is full of it).
Try and read ND's mission statement and not think it is satire. What a bunch of lies.
http://nd.edu/about/mission-statement/ (http://nd.edu/about/mission-statement/)
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I won't be saying anything, but I don't hold my nose and pretend Marquette is better than everyone... like Notre Dame does.
Right...because everybody that is an ND fan does that and no MU fan ever has.
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Right...because everybody that is an ND fan does that and no MU fan ever has.
If you wanted to be a ND fan, you should have gone to ND.
And you asked a question to me, personally, so I gave the answer.
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If you wanted to be a ND fan, you should have gone to ND.
And you asked a question to me, personally, so I gave the answer.
Nice response, who even said I was an ND fan? I root for them passively in football and that's about it.
You said something I thought was pretty stupid and hypocritical because you dislike ND, I called you out on it.
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Regardless, ND says they are the best while the Sullivan and Seeberg situations say otherwise.
I've got to believe that the Sullivans accepted more than an apology from ND.
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Nice response, who even said I was an ND fan? I root for them passively in football and that's about it.
You said something I thought was pretty stupid and hypocritical because you dislike ND, I called you out on it.
What was hypocritical about it? You can't just lump me in with people who turn up their noses because they are MU grads (hilarious that people would do that)
I never meant you specifically were an ND fan (yet you just admitted it?) "you" was a generalization of all people who root for ND who went to one of their rival schools.
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Regardless, ND says they are the best while the Sullivan and Seeberg situations say otherwise.
I've got to believe that the Sullivans accepted more than an apology from ND.
Man, did a leprechaun pee in your Lucky Charms? Why shouldn't ND the fanbase have an ego? The team is number one in the country. They are number one in graduation rate. They have the most National Championships. They have a ton of cash. They spend a ton of cash on their program and school. Even in the years they suck, they get top recruits. Their academics are first tier. They have an amazing alumni base (for networking). Even when they suck, they are at the table of decision making. Last week, the game against USC was the most viewed college football game this year. Get with it dude, ND football is a cash cow and everyone wants a piece. And don't hate because people like them for one reason or another.
And dude, you are embarassing the MU community and yourself by continually bringing up a death of a kid and talking about the kid and his family. Please stop.
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And again, if the family is sincerely comfortable with how it has been resolved, then I am as well.
If I lost my child at the hands of Notre Dame, I can only hope there's an amount of money large enough to ease that kind of unimaginable pain.
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If I lost my child at the hands of Notre Dame, I can only hope there's an amount of money large enough to ease that kind of unimaginable pain.
Well, there would be no amount of money to ease that kind of pain.
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Man, did a leprechaun pee in your Lucky Charms? Why shouldn't ND the fanbase have an ego? The team is number one in the country. They are number one in graduation rate. They have the most National Championships. They have a ton of cash. They spend a ton of cash on their program and school. Even in the years they suck, they get top recruits. Their academics are first tier. They have an amazing alumni base (for networking). Even when they suck, they are at the table of decision making. Last week, the game against USC was the most viewed college football game this year. Get with it dude, ND football is a cash cow and everyone wants a piece. And don't hate because people like them for one reason or another.
It's about money. Always has been, always will be. Winning just fixes a lot of other problems.
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Man, did a leprechaun pee in your Lucky Charms? Why shouldn't ND the fanbase have an ego? The team is number one in the country. They are number one in graduation rate. They have the most National Championships. They have a ton of cash. They spend a ton of cash on their program and school. Even in the years they suck, they get top recruits. Their academics are first tier. They have an amazing alumni base (for networking). Even when they suck, they are at the table of decision making. Last week, the game against USC was the most viewed college football game this year. Get with it dude, ND football is a cash cow and everyone wants a piece. And don't hate because people like them for one reason or another.
And dude, you are embarassing the MU community and yourself by continually bringing up a death of a kid and talking about the kid and his family. Please stop.
I just hate pretentious dbags like you.
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I just hate pretentious dbags like you.
Just stating facts. Your spreading hate.
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Well, there would be no amount of money to ease that kind of pain.
Not for you and me, at least. Fortunately, ND hasn't yet had to deal with people like us.
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Not for you and me, at least. Fortunately, ND hasn't yet had to deal with people like us.
I don't think you understand what I mean. If no amount of money is going to ease that kind of pain, then perhaps money wouldn't be my top priority.
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Poor sample size, but it always strikes me when they do interviews with players from both teams. During the USC - ND game they ran several interviews from ND players and USC players. The comparison was striking. Again, small sample size which isn't fair, but the ND players acquitted themselves very well. USC is an excellent school, but they cut many corners (which they admit) to let athletes in. I have no doubt ND does to some degree as well, but not in the same volume.
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Man, did a leprechaun pee in your Lucky Charms? Why shouldn't ND the fanbase have an ego? The team is number one in the country.
I think maybe part of what he is saying, is that the ego is always present. No matter how good the program is in a given year, the fanbase is always in your face about how important they are to CFB. Touting many of the same facts you just did. And my guess is that if they get stomped by Alabama or Georgia, the ND fanbase will talk about nothing but those same points as a way to diminish the accomplishments of the other school: grad rate, questionable academics etc.
Is Notre Dame a big player in CFB? Yes. Does the CFB world still revolve around them? No, I don't think so, but maybe I am brainwashed from living the past 9 years in SEC country.
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Man, did a leprechaun pee in your Lucky Charms? Why shouldn't ND the fanbase have an ego? The team is number one in the country. They are number one in graduation rate. They have the most National Championships. They have a ton of cash. They spend a ton of cash on their program and school. Even in the years they suck, they get top recruits. Their academics are first tier. They have an amazing alumni base (for networking). Even when they suck, they are at the table of decision making. Last week, the game against USC was the most viewed college football game this year. Get with it dude, ND football is a cash cow and everyone wants a piece. And don't hate because people like them for one reason or another.
And dude, you are embarassing the MU community and yourself by continually bringing up a death of a kid and talking about the kid and his family. Please stop.
Typical Notre Dame bigot right here...
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Poor sample size, but it always strikes me when they do interviews with players from both teams. During the USC - ND game they ran several interviews from ND players and USC players. The comparison was striking. Again, small sample size which isn't fair, but the ND players acquitted themselves very well. USC is an excellent school, but they cut many corners (which they admit) to let athletes in. I have no doubt ND does to some degree as well, but not in the same volume.
Remember the TCU team after they beat Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl 2 years ago? Wow. Andy Dalton quoted a long, not well known Bible verse right away. Those interviews were very impressive.
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I think maybe part of what he is saying, is that the ego is always present. No matter how good the program is in a given year, the fanbase is always in your face about how important they are to CFB. Touting many of the same facts you just did. And my guess is that if they get stomped by Alabama or Georgia, the ND fanbase will talk about nothing but those same points as a way to diminish the accomplishments of the other school: grad rate, questionable academics etc.
Is Notre Dame a big player in CFB? Yes. Does the CFB world still revolve around them? No, I don't think so, but maybe I am brainwashed from living the past 9 years in SEC country.
First, why shouldn't a university be proud of the facts? If we had them, we would be touting them too. And I have been on this board long enough to see posters talk about graduation rate differentials between Wisconsin and MU. Kinda the pot calling the kettle black in that regard.
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Yet another ND alum to be proud of...
http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/8685654/riley-sheahan-detroit-red-wings-prospect-gets-dui-charge-teletubby-garb (http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/8685654/riley-sheahan-detroit-red-wings-prospect-gets-dui-charge-teletubby-garb)
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with many more to come...