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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on August 03, 2023, 08:17:43 PM

Title: Vitale names TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: tower912 on August 03, 2023, 08:17:43 PM
Congrats to TKo.   I have little doubt this thread will devolve to ESPN bashing and Vitale bashing.   Missing the point that TKo and MU are getting ❤️.

With his age and health, this could be the last one of these Vitale does.   Something to tell the grandkids about.
Title: Re: Vitale picks TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: MuggsyB on August 03, 2023, 08:18:59 PM
Congrats to TKo.   I have little doubt this thread will devolve to ESPN bashing and Vitale bashing.   Missing the point that TKo and MU are getting ❤️.

With his age and health, this could be the last one of these Vitale does.   Something to tell the grandkids about.

I assume you mean TyKo?
Title: Re: Vitale picks TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: Lennys Tap on August 03, 2023, 08:32:17 PM
Congrats to TKo.   I have little doubt this thread will devolve to ESPN bashing and Vitale bashing.   Missing the point that TKo and MU are getting ❤️.

With his age and health, this could be the last one of these Vitale does.   Something to tell the grandkids about.

Great news for Tyler and MU.
Title: Re: Vitale picks TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: MuMark on August 03, 2023, 08:40:11 PM
My guess is he will be on most if not all preseason AA teams……..well deserved
Title: Re: Vitale picks TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: Shooter McGavin on August 03, 2023, 08:40:31 PM
Always good to have have this kind of pub.  Congrats to Tyler.  Tower thanks for the post.
Title: Re: Vitale picks TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: tower912 on August 03, 2023, 08:58:52 PM
Between this, CBS having MU at #6, the Hamilton signing, and the scrimmage, this has been an unexpectedly good week for MU hoops.
Title: Re: Vitale picks TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: MU82 on August 03, 2023, 10:39:45 PM
Between this, CBS having MU at #6, the Hamilton signing, and the scrimmage, this has been an unexpectedly good week for MU hoops.

ESPN sux

But seriously, folk, happy to hear any good pub for our guys.
Title: Re: Vitale picks TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: DoctorV on August 03, 2023, 10:48:53 PM
I assume you mean TyKo?

She was supposed to buy your shorty TyKo with your money
She went to the doctor, got lipo with your money
She walkin' around lookin' like Michael with your money
Shoulda got that insured, Geico for your money (money)

When I first started calling Tyler TyKo in my mind and out loud this is the song that came to mind.
It still does.

Wouldn’t have expected that dude to become BEPoY, but here we are.

NPoY you’re next?!?


Title: Re: Vitale names TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: Jay Bee on August 04, 2023, 08:24:35 AM
Paint Touches has a good article maybe a couple months back now Re: returning All Americans and how they fare the following year.

You’d be an outlier to not have Tyler on your preseason AA list.

(Although I think his #’s may regress a little this year)
Title: Re: Vitale picks TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: MuggsyB on August 04, 2023, 08:39:56 AM
She was supposed to buy your shorty TyKo with your money
She went to the doctor, got lipo with your money
She walkin' around lookin' like Michael with your money
Shoulda got that insured, Geico for your money (money)

When I first started calling Tyler TyKo in my mind and out loud this is the song that came to mind.
It still does.

Wouldn’t have expected that dude to become BEPoY, but here we are.

NPoY you’re next?!?

Ha!  How have you been Dr.  V? 
Title: Re: Vitale names TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: brewcity77 on August 04, 2023, 08:53:37 AM
Paint Touches has a good article maybe a couple months back now Re: returning All Americans and how they fare the following year.

You’d be an outlier to not have Tyler on your preseason AA list.

(Although I think his #’s may regress a little this year)

I wonder if they might actually improve relative to the full season, at least in terms of scoring. He averaged 9.0 ppg in November and December, then 15.8 ppg after the New Year. He did that with relatively flat assist and usage rates but improved eFG% and improved TO rate, making him more efficient overall.

He might step back from his conference-only play, but even if he does we could very well see a better player than we saw for the full 2022-23.
Title: Re: Vitale names TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: Jay Bee on August 04, 2023, 09:00:13 AM
I wonder if they might actually improve relative to the full season, at least in terms of scoring. He averaged 9.0 ppg in November and December, then 15.8 ppg after the New Year. He did that with relatively flat assist and usage rates but improved eFG% and improved TO rate, making him more efficient overall.

He might step back from his conference-only play, but even if he does we could very well see a better player than we saw for the full 2022-23.

To be clear, per game stats aren’t something I look at / am speaking on. Definitely could see him scoring more this season.

I think his ORtg was over 125 in Conf play. Just ridiculous. I project his ORtg to drop some this year.
Title: Re: Vitale names TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: lawdog77 on August 04, 2023, 10:00:23 AM
To be clear, per game stats aren’t something I look at / am speaking on. Definitely could see him scoring more this season.

I think his ORtg was over 125 in Conf play. Just ridiculous. I project his ORtg to drop some this year.
Hopefully his block % goes up.

Somebody had to say it.
Title: Re: Vitale names TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: wadesworld on August 04, 2023, 10:15:01 AM
The media hates us and ESPN hates the BE.
Title: Re: Vitale names TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: Jay Bee on August 04, 2023, 10:22:50 AM
Hopefully his block % goes up.

Somebody had to say it.

He’s a 6’3” PG… who had the same blk% as a 6’8” defensive guy. A repeat would be just fine.
Title: Re: Vitale picks TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: BrewCity83 on August 04, 2023, 02:01:16 PM
She was supposed to buy your shorty TyKo with your money
She went to the doctor, got lipo with your money
She walkin' around lookin' like Michael with your money
Shoulda got that insured, Geico for your money (money)

When I first started calling Tyler TyKo in my mind and out loud this is the song that came to mind.
It still does.

Wouldn’t have expected that dude to become BEPoY, but here we are.

NPoY you’re next?!?

#TyKo4NPoY
Title: Re: Vitale names TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: brewcity77 on August 04, 2023, 02:47:18 PM
To be clear, per game stats aren’t something I look at / am speaking on. Definitely could see him scoring more this season.

I think his ORtg was over 125 in Conf play. Just ridiculous. I project his ORtg to drop some this year.

Right, but his overall ORtg was 118, and per Torvik he was at 113.5 through December. His ORtg could drop from that 125 in conference play to 120 overall for the season and he would still be better and more productive than last year. I also think he could see an assist rate improvement because part of what hurt his assist rate last year was missed open threes. That should happen a bit less frequently if we see shooting improvement from Chase, Stevie, and Gold as well as Joplin taking more of the shots that O-Max was less reliable to make last year.
Title: Re: Vitale names TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: Pepe Sylvia on August 04, 2023, 02:53:28 PM
I feel like kam should get up over 40 this year, only 36% last.
Title: Re: Vitale names TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: Jay Bee on August 04, 2023, 02:56:56 PM
Right, but his overall ORtg was 118, and per Torvik he was at 113.5 through December. His ORtg could drop from that 125 in conference play to 120 overall for the season and he would still be better and more productive than last year. I also think he could see an assist rate improvement because part of what hurt his assist rate last year was missed open threes. That should happen a bit less frequently if we see shooting improvement from Chase, Stevie, and Gold as well as Joplin taking more of the shots that O-Max was less reliable to make last year.

I project his ORtg to be lower than this past year and will make a wager on it.
Title: Re: Vitale names TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: lawdog77 on August 04, 2023, 03:00:20 PM
I project his ORtg to be lower than this past year and will make a wager on it.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38134086/nfl-seeks-federal-help-illicit-sports-betting-market (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38134086/nfl-seeks-federal-help-illicit-sports-betting-market)
Title: Re: Vitale names TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: willie warrior on August 04, 2023, 04:41:17 PM
The media hates us and ESPN hates the BE.
ESPN is part of Disney  and everybody knows that Disney does not tolerate hate
Title: Re: Vitale names TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: Uncle Rico on August 04, 2023, 05:19:37 PM
ESPN is part of Disney  and everybody knows that Disney does not tolerate hate

That’s correct.  They’re very inclusive
Title: Re: Vitale picks TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: DoctorV on August 05, 2023, 08:30:10 PM
Ha!  How have you been Dr.  V?

Just livin the dream Muggsy, enjoying the warmth.

You? Excited about the upcoming season and your next exquisite pour I’m sure
Title: Re: Vitale names TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: willie warrior on August 06, 2023, 08:29:16 AM
That’s correct.  They’re very inclusive
Yes they are if you are woke
Disney is expected to lose @1 billion on their summer releases this year. That is very inclusive. More ass canning at ESPN?
Title: Re: Vitale names TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 06, 2023, 08:32:16 AM
Yes they are if you are woke
Disney is expected to lose @1 billion on their summer releases this year. That is very inclusive. More ass canning at ESPN?

You seriously think their financial performance has anything to do with their inclusivity policies?

Oh and "woke."

LOL.
Title: Re: Vitale names TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: tower912 on August 06, 2023, 09:36:41 AM
  I have little doubt this thread will devolve to ESPN bashing

So embarrassingly predictable.
Title: Re: Vitale names TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: MU82 on August 06, 2023, 12:19:35 PM
So embarrassingly predictable.

So predictable that a woke guy like you would predict that.
Title: Re: Vitale names TKo to his preseason AA team
Post by: Badgerhater on August 06, 2023, 06:54:07 PM
Congrats to Kolek.  This great recognition and it’s good for the athlete and Marquette.

Kudos to the knowledgable staffer who put in the effort and typed Dickie V’s name in the byline.