Oso planning to go pro
So, are making the case that mask mandates should require surgical masks, since they've been proven effective?I'm all ears.
Goodness, can you read? That table I attached to the last post shows no statistical difference for people 50 and under who wore surgical masks numb nuts. Just like my original post said.
Thanks, I did. Did you?“No statistically significant decrease”
You didn't read sh!t, or you can't comprehend it. Stop looking to twitter clip chimps to explain things for you.
As exceptionally varied are opinions on Joe Rogan, here’s one thing we all now have to agree on: Joe Rogan does not have cow worms.
But he probably does have a ton of brain trauma.Where we really went wrong as a society is when people started trusting a comedian who masquerades as an MMA fighter who masquerades as a pseudo-intellectual.But then I look at his fervent audience and remember that Joe is literally the physical manifestation of internet culture.
Now you’re projecting. Pages 22-30 is the good stuff big boy.
We found clear evidence that surgical masks are effective in reducing symptomatic seropreva-lence of SARS-CoV-2; while cloth masks clearly reduce symptoms, we cannot reject that they havezero or only a small impact on symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infections (perhaps reducing symptomsof other respiratory diseases). Additionally, we found evidence that surgical masks were no lesslikely to be adopted than cloth masks (perhaps slightly more likely). Thus, surgical masks havehigher filtration efficiency, are cheaper, are consistently worn, and are better supported by ourevidence as tools to reduce COVID-19.
Our results should not be taken to imply that masks can prevent only 10% of COVID-19 cases,let alone 10% of COVID-19 mortality. Our intervention induced 29 more people out of every100 to wear masks, with 42% of people wearing masks in total. The total impact with near-universal masking–perhaps achievable with alternative strategies or stricter enforcement–may beseveral times larger than our 10% estimate. Additionally, the intervention reduced symptomaticseroprevalence more when surgical masks were used, and even more for the highest-risk individu-als in our sample (23% for ages 50-60 and 35% for ages 60+). These numbers likely give a bettersense of the impact of our intervention on severe morbidity and mortality, since most of the diseaseburden is borne by the elderly. Where achievable, universal mask adoption is likely to have stilllarger impacts.
In summary, we found that mask distribution, role modeling, and promotion in a LMIC settingincreased mask-wearing and physical distancing, leading to lower illness, particularly in olderadults. We find stronger support for the use of surgical masks than cloth masks to prevent COVID-19. Whether people with respiratory symptoms should generally wear masks to prevent respiratoryvirus transmission—including for viruses other than SARS-CoV-2—is an important area for futureresearch. Our findings suggest that such a policy may benefit public health
Guy has concerns about the vaccine.Then uses monoclonal antibodies that only have emergency use....?
He has no vaccine worries. It’s all political posturing for his audience.
It's not political with him. You might find this hard to believe, but not everything is.
Did you read the study? Nothing I said was inaccurate if you actually read it. And I’m the uninterested one?!?!?
Yea, he's far more of a libertarian than some MAGA champion which his critics like to make him out to be. Hell, he endorsed Bernie. I don't agree with a lot of his COVID takes, but he's flat out said "if you want to get the vaccine, you should get the vaccine". He's gotten a bit galaxy brained worrying about how hard the government/media is pushing it but he's far from some alt-right angled demon seed vax hater.
I'm not a listener, so I have no particular thoughts on him one way or another. But I do find it ironic that a straight white man who gets paid $100 million to talk to an audience of millions uses that platform to complain that straight white men aren't being allowed to talk.
I'm not a listener either but he strikes me as one prime example of American's equating fame/platform with intelligence/authority on any subject. He realizes this and positions many of his POVs to rile his listeners and/or play into their victimhood in order to make money..........he's a grifter.
I'm not a Rogan fanatic, just want to put it out there, but I think the Devil's Advocate angle is, he comes from the comedy world where for a long time, you could say whatever you want as long as its funny. And now that's no longer the case, right or wrong. Its a little different than just feeling fragile and personally aggrieved. It doesn't make it any less off base, but its a bit more nuanced.
I agree with your first part, but I think people overuse "grifter" these days. I don't often get the impression he doesn't believe what he says and he's playing some schtick for money. I do, however, think that he's got an inflated view of himself and his viewpoints and the intellectual force he feels he possesses...because of how people hang on his every word and view him as a tastemaking expert. He feels he's super knowledgeable and right in his views, so he shares them often, and when people push back, he gets miffed and strikes out, which riles up his fanboys. I honestly think he's authentic to a fault. Cause he mixes some really good entertaining stuff with great guests with his wacky, "thought way too hard about this when I was high" nonsense.
I never said he was MAGA. He goes for the same audience as all the FM radio shocks jocks. Pseudo-macho men. Still a very political audience.
At least rogan put his money where his mouth is when he was fighting. Unlike a lot of the other guys who talk big to rile people up.
How did Rogan do that?
Between someone like rush being a fat blob talking about how he'd like to hit (insert left leaning political figure) at least Rogan genuinely got in shape and trained to throw punches and what not. The general point that I was making was that a lot of radio psuedo macho guys are out of shape guys that talk big whereas Joe actually competed and trained etc.
vs someone like rush being a fat blob talking about how he'd like to hit (insert left leaning political figure) at least Rogan genuinely got in shape and trained to throw punches and what not. The general point that I was making was that a lot of radio psuedo macho guys are out of shape guys that talk big whereas Joe actually competed and trained etc.