Coach K retiring after this season

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Scheyer will probably get two seasons to prove that he can keep things moving - this isn't a rebuild or complete reinvention, they're just passing the baton.  Getting time to recruit "his guys" or implementing "his system" doesn't really apply here.  If he isn't finishing top 4 in the ACC and getting a decent seed in the tourney by his second season, I'm willing to bet Duke moves on.

On the flip side, maybe Scheyer is the one guy who can keep things ticking in the Duke way, and his youth could be seen as a huge advantage in the current recruiting environment.  Coaches like Boeheim and Roy Williams bemoaning the reality of more transfers just proves that they're out of touch with the guys they're recruiting.   Scheyer will be, what, 34 when he takes over?  He probably won't have the same crusty mentality. 

Exactly.

[Pakuni]

I wonder how Nate James feels about all this?

Probably like a guy who moved on because he knew he wasn't getting the gig.

[WhiteTrash]

How happy would MU fans be if MU hired Scheyer? How impressed would the nation (media and fans) be if MU hired Scheyer?

If Scheyer turnss out to be great, I'll be pissed at Coach K for recommending Wojo over Scheyer.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

How happy would MU fans be if MU hired Scheyer? How impressed would the nation (media and fans) be if MU hired Scheyer?

If Scheyer turnss out to be great, I'll be pissed at Coach K for recommending Wojo over Scheyer.

Scheyer took Wojo's spot when he came to MU so...

[Pakuni]

If Scheyer turnss out to be great, I'll be pissed at Coach K for recommending Wojo over Scheyer.

Scheyer wasn't coaching when Marquette hired Wojo.

[MU82]

If Scheyer turnss out to be great, I'll be pissed at Coach K for recommending Wojo over Scheyer.

I'm gonna give you credit for sarcasm here ... because I'm pretty sure you know that Scheyer was a kid who was still hoping to have a playing career when Buzz left Marquette.

[WhiteTrash]

I'm gonna give you credit for sarcasm here ... because I'm pretty sure you know that Scheyer was a kid who was still hoping to have a playing career when Buzz left Marquette.

It was sarcasm. Should have used teal. My bad.

[avid1010]

He is qualified on paper.  But most coaches are fired and I think he will be as well.  That doesn't mean they weren't qualified when they were fired.  I mean, Wojo was qualified right?

Not like Shaka was...but just as much or more so than Buzz.  Obviously, it can work...but if I'm a Duke fan I would have wanted 20 guys before Scheyer...and I'm praying that Duke believes they have a unicorn. 

[Lennys Tap]

Just because they can attract higher quality candidates, that doesn't mean the selected candidate is "unqualified."  Promoting an assistant has been done at plenty of places that may have been able to attract a higher level coach.

True. But just as a student might be qualified to attend Marquette or UW but not Duke, so a coach who might be qualified to take over Marquette or UW but not Duke. IMO.

[THRILLHO]

This thread has revealed nothing about coach k and a lot about the people who assume different things about the way he thinks.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Probably like a guy who moved on because he knew he wasn't getting the gig.

Could be but Nate is more qualified on paper, same title with a promotion. Three Natty rings.  <shrug>

[lawdog77]

This thread has revealed nothing about coach k and a lot about the people who assume different things about the way he thinks.

I stand corrected. Coach K is a Saint, his program is squeaky clean, and he would never do anything to undermine the school to further his own legacy.

[Johnny B]

if wojo stayed at duke does he grt the job instead of scheyer

[LAZER]

if wojo stayed at duke does he grt the job instead of scheyer

Probably

[Newsdreams]

if wojo stayed at duke does he grt the job instead of scheyer

I would think so, he took him to help coach NBA players.

[Coleman]

if wojo stayed at duke does he grt the job instead of scheyer

Yes he does. Hindsight is 20/20 though.

[Uncle Rico]

This thread has revealed nothing about coach k and a lot about the people who assume different things about the way he thinks.

People don’t like Coach K because they’re jealous at how wildly successful he is, first and foremost.  Is he a whiner and windbag at times?  Absolutely, but no one would care if he wasn’t one of the greatest to ever coach. 

[MarquetteDano]

People don’t like Coach K because they’re jealous at how wildly successful he is, first and foremost.  Is he a whiner and windbag at times?  Absolutely, but no one would care if he wasn’t one of the greatest to ever coach.

For the most part this is true. I think there are some legit reasons not to like the man. However, I do not like him and I cannot really delineate the reasons why.

[JWags85]

Yes he does. Hindsight is 20/20 though.

As funny as it sounds, long term, it was probably better for Wojo to go to Marquette instead of stay, even if he would have been the guy instead of Scheyer.  Especially financially.  He made more here than doing the same floundering at Duke and getting tossed after 2-3 years.

[Billy Hoyle]

As funny as it sounds, long term, it was probably better for Wojo to go to Marquette instead of stay, even if he would have been the guy instead of Scheyer.  Especially financially.  He made more here than doing the same floundering at Duke and getting tossed after 2-3 years.

Considering how K is setting up this succession plan and doing it over a year (unlike Roy) Scheyer is going to be successful out of the gate and get at least 5 years. It’s Duke.

[brewcity77]

For the most part this is true. I think there are some legit reasons not to like the man. However, I do not like him and I cannot really delineate the reasons why.

Coach K might be the devil incarnate, but after his halftime adjustments in the 2015 Championship Game, I'd forgive him (and Grayson Allen) of just about anything.

[avid1010]

People don’t like Coach K because they’re jealous at how wildly successful he is, first and foremost.  Is he a whiner and windbag at times?  Absolutely, but no one would care if he wasn’t one of the greatest to ever coach.

My dislike started when he put Elton Brand, and others, through hell for wanting to leave early.  A coach like Al would say "takr the money" and admit to not being perfect while trying to do right by his players.  K projected to be perfect and pulled crap like that.  Not a terrible man by any means...but not a guy I liked to cheer for.

[ATL MU Warrior]

Coach K might be the devil incarnate, but after his halftime adjustments in the 2015 Championship Game, I'd forgive him (and Grayson Allen) of just about anything.

Yeah I didn’t care for him (and pretty much always rooted for Duke to lose) until that game which was glorious.

[MU82]

Coach K might be the devil incarnate, but after his halftime adjustments in the 2015 Championship Game, I'd forgive him (and Grayson Allen) of just about anything.

So true, brewski. I was cheering for Duke as if K was my best friend!

As for the coaching change ...

There are those who don't think K is a very good game coach, including some on this board who have said stuff like, "A whole lot of coaches would win just as much, if not more, with the talent they have every year."

So maybe Scheyer actually will be an improvement as a game coach!

[Uncle Rico]

My dislike started when he put Elton Brand, and others, through hell for wanting to leave early.  A coach like Al would say "takr the money" and admit to not being perfect while trying to do right by his players.  K projected to be perfect and pulled crap like that.  Not a terrible man by any means...but not a guy I liked to cheer for.

That’s part of his story but I thought that was more Corey Maggette and William Avery than Brand.  Different time and era.  His thoughts on that evolved through the years as evidenced by utilizing one-and-dones, though, I’d argue that he was better served with veteran rosters. 

I don’t think NIL and transfers actually would have been a problem for him or Roy.  They’d have thrived in any ecosystem of college basketball