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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Cheeks on May 10, 2019, 07:00:15 PM

Title: Proposal to move back 3 point line by more than one foot
Post by: Cheeks on May 10, 2019, 07:00:15 PM
Will be voted on June 5th, move the line to the International line.

The NIT, the meaningless tournament, has experimented with it the last two years. 

Expected to pass the rules oversight panel....no problem for Markus.
Title: Re: Proposal to move back 3 point line by one foot
Post by: Anti-Dentite on May 10, 2019, 07:47:54 PM
That would actually help MU in the short run.
Title: Re: Proposal to move back 3 point line by one foot
Post by: We R Final Four on May 10, 2019, 08:05:14 PM
Rowsey’s pissed.
Title: Re: Proposal to move back 3 point line by one foot
Post by: Nukem2 on May 10, 2019, 08:10:59 PM
Rowsey’s pissed.
Why.  He shoots far beyond that.  ;)
Title: Re: Proposal to move back 3 point line by one foot
Post by: D'Lo Brown on May 10, 2019, 08:28:44 PM
The NIT, the meaningless tournament, has experimented with it the last two years. 

Didn't know that. Curious about the data on it and analysis.
Title: Re: Proposal to move back 3 point line by one foot
Post by: We R Final Four on May 10, 2019, 08:46:13 PM
Why.  He shoots far beyond that.  ;)
Exactly—he would have been the best shooter in the country. Eliminate those pu$$ies who need to be close to the line!
Title: Re: Proposal to move back 3 point line by one foot
Post by: GB Warrior on May 10, 2019, 10:01:17 PM
Will be voted on June 5th, move the line to the International line.

The NIT, the meaningless tournament, has experimented with it the last two years. 

Expected to pass the rules oversight panel....no problem for Markus.

I agree with this. All of it helps MU this year.
Title: Re: Proposal to move back 3 point line by one foot
Post by: Jay Bee on May 10, 2019, 10:29:26 PM
Will be voted on June 5th, move the line to the International line.

The NIT, the meaningless tournament, has experimented with it the last two years. 

Expected to pass the rules oversight panel....no problem for Markus.

Topic is a LIE!!!  The move would be more than one foot.
Title: Re: Proposal to move back 3 point line by one foot
Post by: Cheeks on May 10, 2019, 10:52:48 PM
Topic is a LIE!!!  The move would be more than one foot.

Correct.  16 3/4 inches
Title: Re: Proposal to move back 3 point line by more than one foot
Post by: WarriorFan on May 11, 2019, 04:31:47 AM
It's a big difference. 
Sacar - for one - is a "toes on the line" shooter who may not have the range for the longer shot.  Bailey thinks he has it, and Markus definitely has it. 
Title: Re: Proposal to move back 3 point line by more than one foot
Post by: dgies9156 on May 11, 2019, 07:00:39 AM
It's all in the coaching. Good coaches work with their teams to adapt to everything from the rules to the refs. They'll figure out how to win even if the three-point lines moves back to the hash marks.

Bad coaches, well, give a lot of press clippings and get clocked in close games!
Title: Re: Proposal to move back 3 point line by more than one foot
Post by: Not A Serious Person on May 11, 2019, 08:11:02 AM
When are they going to a  24/14 second shot clock?
Title: Re: Proposal to move back 3 point line by more than one foot
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 11, 2019, 09:06:17 AM
When are they going to a  24/14 second shot clock?

Not soon enough
Title: Re: Proposal to move back 3 point line by more than one foot
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on May 11, 2019, 10:02:10 AM
Been calling for an extended 3 point line at all levels. Hopefully it passes quickly.
Title: Re: Proposal to move back 3 point line by more than one foot
Post by: Jay Bee on May 11, 2019, 10:19:18 AM
When are they going to a  24/14 second shot clock?

Not soon, but this season it will likely change to a 30/20 shot clock (from 30/30).
Title: Re: Proposal to move back 3 point line by more than one foot
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 11, 2019, 11:49:07 AM
It also means defenses will extend further out. More contested shots from distance. No advantage there.

It could open up more driving lanes though and opportunities for mid-range jumpers and post up opportunities. That’s where things will change.
Title: Re: Proposal to move back 3 point line by more than one foot
Post by: GooooMarquette on May 11, 2019, 12:16:46 PM
Just another solution looking for a problem.
Title: Re: Proposal to move back 3 point line by one foot
Post by: muwarrior69 on May 11, 2019, 12:47:55 PM
Correct.  16 3/4 inches

Would that be true for the shots in the corner? Would not the player almost be out of bounds?
Title: Re: Proposal to move back 3 point line by more than one foot
Post by: avid1010 on May 11, 2019, 01:28:44 PM
It also means defenses will extend further out. More contested shots from distance. No advantage there.

It could open up more driving lanes though and opportunities for mid-range jumpers and post up opportunities. That’s where things will change.
I would think the same thing...but it's not what we have seen in the NBA.  Try and run teams off the 3pt line, and anyone on the court who can't hit from outside is liability.  Dunks and 3's...teams will adjust...might give an advantage to truly good shooting teams and less of an advantage to a team like Duke had this year? 
Title: Re: Proposal to move back 3 point line by more than one foot
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on May 11, 2019, 01:48:10 PM
Surprised the resting of fouls at the 10 minute mark of each half didn't get more of a look.
Title: Re: Proposal to move back 3 point line by more than one foot
Post by: seakm4 on May 14, 2019, 01:16:09 AM
With all the changes (small as they may be) I can already hear myself describing the game of basketball and how it used to be to my kid.  I'm turning into my grandfather and I don't like it.
Title: Re: Proposal to move back 3 point line by more than one foot
Post by: MU82 on May 14, 2019, 04:16:43 AM
I would think the same thing...but it's not what we have seen in the NBA.  Try and run teams off the 3pt line, and anyone on the court who can't hit from outside is liability.  Dunks and 3's...teams will adjust...might give an advantage to truly good shooting teams and less of an advantage to a team like Duke had this year?

In NBA playoff games I have seen this season, lots of floaters in the lane, too. McCollum, Harden, Lillard, Curry, etc, all have been taking/making 'em pretty often.

The floater almost has become a mandatory shot for any guard or wing who wants to score, because he will get run off the 3-point line but often won't get all the way to the hoop.

Markus already is quite good at it. We'll have to see about Koby, Bailey and others.
Title: Re: Proposal to move back 3 point line by one foot
Post by: mu03eng on May 14, 2019, 08:45:49 AM
Would that be true for the shots in the corner? Would not the player almost be out of bounds?

Not sure about the proposal, but I think if FIBA the corner 3 is basically gone, but some have a modified international line where there is still a corner three.

Moving the line out isn't a bad thought and would definitely help MU in the short term.
Title: Re: Proposal to move back 3 point line by one foot
Post by: forgetful on May 14, 2019, 10:38:08 AM
Not sure about the proposal, but I think if FIBA the corner 3 is basically gone, but some have a modified international line where there is still a corner three.

Moving the line out isn't a bad thought and would definitely help MU in the short term.

The FIBA corner 3 is 21'9". Very similar to the NBA corner 3 of 22'.

The NCAA would likely use the same dimensions as the corner 3 for FIBA, but they could go with the NBA length of 22' to minimize the difference in 3-point distance at different positions.