Average Player Performance 2003-2016 | OR% | DR% | Blk% | Stl% | FTRate | 2-pt % |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1500 top players who did not make NBA | 3.46 | 11.10 | 0.86 | 2.23 | 36.35 | 47% |
Possible players | 6.97 | 14.83 | 3.17 | 1.82 | 42.37 | 51% |
Future NBA average | 7.08 | 14.74 | 3.08 | 2.17 | 42.09 | 51% |
NBA Center | 11.62 | 19.81 | 6.86 | 1.61 | 51.65 | 55% |
NBA PF | 9.60 | 17.95 | 3.99 | 1.83 | 44.11 | 53% |
NBA PG | 2.80 | 9.57 | 0.76 | 2.76 | 39.42 | 48% |
NBA SF | 7.01 | 14.80 | 2.66 | 2.09 | 38.90 | 51% |
NBA SG | 4.68 | 11.91 | 1.36 | 2.54 | 36.91 | 49% |
College Yr | NBA Last Year or % | |
---|---|---|
Ellenson, Henry 13 | 2016 | 91% |
Fischer, Luke 40 | 2016 | 35% |
Johnson, JaJuan 23 | 2016 | 21% |
Cheatham, Haanif 25 | 2016 | 16% |
Total estimated 2016 team | 1.63 | |
Fischer, Luke 40 | 2015 | 35% |
Johnson, JaJuan 23 | 2015 | 21% |
Total estimated 2015 team | 0.56 | |
Crowder, Jae 32 | 2012 | 2016 |
Butler, Jimmy 33 | 2011 | 2016 |
Crowder, Jae 32 | 2011 | 2016 |
Butler, Jimmy 33 | 2010 | 2016 |
Butler, Jimmy 33 | 2009 | 2016 |
Matthews, Wesley 23 | 2009 | 2016 |
Matthews, Wesley 23 | 2008 | 2016 |
Matthews, Wesley 23 | 2007 | 2016 |
Novak, Steve | 2006 | 2016 |
Matthews, Wesley | 2006 | 2016 |
Novak, Steve | 2005 | 2016 |
Novak, Steve | 2004 | 2016 |
Wade, Dwyane | 2003 | 2016 |
Novak, Steve | 2003 | 2016 |
Blue, Vander 13 | 2013 | 2015 |
Blue, Vander 2 | 2012 | 2015 |
Blue, Vander 2 | 2011 | 2015 |
Buycks, Dwight 23 | 2011 | 2015 |
Buycks, Dwight 23 | 2010 | 2015 |
McNeal, Jerel 22 | 2009 | 2015 |
McNeal, Jerel 22 | 2008 | 2015 |
McNeal, Jerel 22 | 2007 | 2015 |
McNeal, Jerel | 2006 | 2015 |
Johnson-Odom, Darius 1 | 2012 | 2014 |
Johnson-Odom, Darius 1 | 2011 | 2014 |
Johnson-Odom, Darius 1 | 2010 | 2014 |
Hayward, Lazar 32 | 2010 | 2013 |
Hayward, Lazar 32 | 2009 | 2013 |
Hayward, Lazar 32 | 2008 | 2013 |
Hayward, Lazar 32 | 2007 | 2013 |
Diener, Travis | 2005 | 2010 |
Diener, Travis | 2004 | 2010 |
Diener, Travis | 2003 | 2010 |
Estimated 2.5 future NBA/season |
Rnk | School since 2003 | Future NBA/Year | Total |
---|---|---|---|
1 | Duke | 5.1 | 71.9 |
2 | Kansas | 4.9 | 68.1 |
3 | North Carolina | 4.7 | 66.4 |
4 | Kentucky | 4.7 | 66.3 |
5 | UCLA | 3.5 | 49.0 |
6 | Connecticut | 3.1 | 43.6 |
7 | Washington | 3.0 | 41.9 |
8 | Syracuse | 3.0 | 41.6 |
9 | Arizona | 3.0 | 41.4 |
10 | Michigan St. | 2.9 | 40.7 |
11 | Louisville | 2.8 | 38.5 |
12 | Memphis | 2.7 | 37.4 |
13 | Notre Dame | 2.5 | 35.5 |
14 | Florida | 2.5 | 35.5 |
15 | Marquette | 2.5 | 35.2 |
16 | Georgetown | 2.5 | 34.9 |
17 | Texas | 2.5 | 34.5 |
18 | Michigan | 2.4 | 33.4 |
19 | Gonzaga | 2.1 | 29.3 |
20 | Wisconsin | 2.0 | 27.4 |
21 | Georgia Tech | 1.9 | 26.8 |
22 | LSU | 1.8 | 25.4 |
23 | Oklahoma St. | 1.8 | 25.3 |
24 | Villanova | 1.8 | 24.7 |
25 | Florida St. | 1.8 | 24.6 |
26 | Maryland | 1.7 | 23.9 |
27 | Vanderbilt | 1.6 | 22.7 |
28 | Iowa St. | 1.6 | 22.0 |
29 | Colorado | 1.6 | 21.8 |
30 | Illinois | 1.5 | 21.5 |
31 | California | 1.5 | 21.0 |
32 | Virginia | 1.5 | 21.0 |
33 | Purdue | 1.4 | 20.3 |
34 | USC | 1.4 | 19.9 |
35 | Georgia | 1.4 | 19.6 |
36 | Tennessee | 1.4 | 19.3 |
37 | Indiana | 1.4 | 19.2 |
38 | North Carolina St. | 1.4 | 19.0 |
39 | Pittsburgh | 1.4 | 19.0 |
40 | Texas A and M | 1.3 | 18.1 |
41 | Arkansas | 1.3 | 17.9 |
42 | Missouri | 1.3 | 17.7 |
43 | Nevada | 1.2 | 17.0 |
44 | New Mexico | 1.2 | 17.0 |
45 | Miami FL | 1.2 | 16.9 |
46 | Stanford | 1.2 | 16.4 |
47 | Oregon | 1.1 | 16.0 |
48 | Alabama | 1.1 | 15.7 |
49 | Wake Forest | 1.1 | 15.4 |
50 | Ohio St. | 1.1 | 15.3 |
Sometimes -- oftentimes -- the "eye test" is far superior to any stats.I am happy we have Luke and agree with most of your points on him . The only thing I would add is Size can't be taught and he has it , and that gives him a chance at making the next level albeit small.
IMHO ...
Luke has about 10% chance of being an NBA player. Too slow and mechanical, not nearly strong enough, no face-up game. He plays "smaller" than he is against many college post players not nearly as tall as he is; every NBA roster has 3-4 players like that. I am really glad Luke is a Warrior and, unlike some, I do think he has improved. But it's a major leap from decent college big to NBA big, and his game does not fit what most NBA teams want in their bigs today.
JJJ has about 20% chance. I actually would have said less, but I was so wrong about Buycks that I'll allow that maybe I'm not fully assessing JJJ's potential.
Haanif has the best chance of the three because he is a freshman with talent who already logs significant minutes and has 3 more years to develop his game and his body. Too early to put a percentage on it, though.
I am happy we have Luke and agree with most of your points on him . The only thing I would add is Size can't be taught and he has it , and that gives him a chance at making the next level albeit small.
JJJ had a high ceiling . We are just seeing him scratch the surface . He has length, court vision , quickness ,is a very good passer and is excellent in transition . He has a left and should start using it more. If he continues to make progress at the rate he did this year he could be a classic late bloomer. He has embraced the coaches philosophy and is going to be a beneficiary of their experience.
Haanif has the tools as You pointed out. He has to keep progressing at a steady rate in strength and experience.
Luke... has no face-up game.
As far as I've seen, he is 2 for 2 in his Marquette career on 12'-15' jumpers.
As far as I've seen, he is 2 for 2 in his Marquette career on 12'-15' jumpers.
Sometimes -- oftentimes -- the "eye test" is far superior to any stats.About a month ago 82 you said "no way/no how" regarding Luke's NBA chances. I see you are coming around now with the 10% chance!
IMHO ...
Luke has about 10% chance of being an NBA player.
About a month ago 82 you said "no way/no how" regarding Luke's NBA chances. I see you are coming around now with the 10% chance!
I believe Luke will continue to improve--as he has already--and get a shot at an NBA team.
~7' who is athletic and has moves with either hand from either block will garner more attention but end of next year.
About a month ago 82 you said "no way/no how" regarding Luke's NBA chances. I see you are coming around now with the 10% chance!
I believe Luke will continue to improve--as he has already--and get a shot at an NBA team.
~7' who is athletic and has moves with either hand from either block will garner more attention but end of next year.
Luke has a much better chance of going to the NBA than JJJ.
Luke has a much better chance of going to the NBA than JJJ.