Big East Poll , NET Rankings and Team Sheets

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

This is the kind of sh*t with NET/Team Sheets/Computers that drives me nuts - we can lose a game and it still might end up being a net positive to our resume.

NET is COLE.

It's not a net positive.  It just mitigates the negative

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET Rankings as of games of March 10, 2024
New  Old
3   3   UConn   
11   11   Creighton   
13   13   Marquette   
33   32   Villanova   
39   38   St. John's
62   61   Seton Hall   
64   64   Providence   
65   65   Xavier   
66   66   Butler   
198   197   Georgetown   
322   322   DePaul   
March 11 Team Sheets
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/net-teamsheets-plus
MU is 13:
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/team-net-sheet?team=Marquette

[BrewCity83]

This is the kind of sh*t with NET/Team Sheets/Computers that drives me nuts - we can lose a game and it still might end up being a net positive to our resume.

NET is COLE.

NET King COLE

[Herman Cain]

Big East Poll Rankings March 11, 2024
AP
2. U Conn
8. Creighton
10. MU
Coaches
2. U Conn
6. Creighton
10. MU

[mu_eyeballs]

Anyone have an idea what our Strength of Schedule would be if DePaul had a net of say 200-225?  That 322 is so so so so BAD!  We would be all over the schedulers for putting 2 300+ teams on our schedule and they put 0 on.

[Scoop Snoop]

Anyone have an idea what our Strength of Schedule would be if DePaul had a net of say 200-225?  That 322 is so so so so BAD!  We would be all over the schedulers for putting 2 300+ teams on our schedule and they put 0 on.

This was the basis of my reply to a scooper questioning why an improved DP would be good for everyone in the BE. He was happy with them being an easy win twice per season. They're like another cupcake x 2 on the schedule. Porter Moser, C'mon down!

[mu_eyeballs]

This was the basis of my reply to a scooper questioning why an improved DP would be good for everyone in the BE. He was happy with them being an easy win twice per season. They're like another cupcake x 2 on the schedule. Porter Moser, C'mon down!

Listening to pods...everyone is harping on SOS...ours is 7 which is great...but still those 322 gameS are crazy bad.  They still would/should be an easy win if they were in the low 200s.

[tower912]

7 is enough.  Celebrate what the team has accomplished.

[Scoop Snoop]

7 is enough.  Celebrate what the team has accomplished.

I'm mourning those 2 wins over DePaul even while celebrating what the team accomplished.

[rocky_warrior]

!0. MU

Not zero.  Nice.

[Shooter McGavin]

7 is enough.  Celebrate what the team has accomplished.

Eight is enough. Seven is a bonus.

[Herman Cain]

Not zero.  Nice.

Correction Noted.

 

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET Rankings as of games of March 11, 2024
New  Old
3   3   UConn   
11   11   Creighton   
13   13   Marquette   
32   33   Villanova   
39   39   St. John's
62   62   Seton Hall   
63   64   Providence
64   65   Xavier   
65   66   Butler   
198   198   Georgetown   
322   322   DePaul
March 12 Team Sheets:
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/net-teamsheets-plus
MU is 13:
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/team-net-sheet?team=Marquette

[Newsdreams]

Not zero.  Nice.

Too bad, MU would be before 1

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET Rankings as of games of March 12, 2024
New  Old
3   3   UConn
11   11   Creighton   
13   13   Marquette   
33   32   Villanova   
39   39   St. John's
62   62   Seton Hall   
63   63   Providence   
64   64   Xavier   
65   65   Butler   
199   198   Georgetown   
322   322   DePaul
March 13 Team Sheets:
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/net-teamsheets-plus
MU is 13:
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/team-net-sheet?team=Marquette

[MDMU04]

Anyone have an idea what our Strength of Schedule would be if DePaul had a net of say 200-225?  That 322 is so so so so BAD!  We would be all over the schedulers for putting 2 300+ teams on our schedule and they put 0 on.

KenPom has MU with the 9 overall SoS with a Non-Conference SoS of 21. DePaul is actually sitting at 10 overall with a NC-SoS of 164.  Xavier is next at 11 overall with NC-SoS of 70.

Considering DePaul's overall SoS isn't burdened by having to play DePaul twice during the season, and that their non-conference slate was considerably softer than both MU and Xavier, the impact appears to be insignificant.

[mu_eyeballs]

KenPom has MU with the 9 overall SoS with a Non-Conference SoS of 21. DePaul is actually sitting at 10 overall with a NC-SoS of 164.  Xavier is next at 11 overall with NC-SoS of 70.

Considering DePaul's overall SoS isn't burdened by having to play DePaul twice during the season, and that their non-conference slate was considerably softer than both MU and Xavier, the impact appears to be insignificant.

True...but Marquette doesn't get to play number 13 Marquette twice as well...argument cuts both ways.

[MDMU04]

True...but Marquette doesn't get to play number 13 Marquette twice as well...argument cuts both ways.

11 SoS Xavier got the benefit of playing 9 SoS MU twice and they're two spots lower in overall KenPom SoS than MU...and also behind DePaul, who gets the best of both worlds by not having to play themselves while also playing the top 3 teams in the conference twice.

NET has (SoS rankings):
Xavier 5 overall, 34 NC
MU 8 overall, 18 NC
DePaul 9 overall, 122 NC

So maybe it matters a spot or two at the absolute most? Insignificant.

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET Rankings as of gamea of March 13, 2024
New  Old
3   3   UConn   
11   11   Creighton   
13   13   Marquette   
39   39   St. John's
40   33   Villanova   
62   63   Providence   
63   64   Xavier   
64   62   Seton Hall   
66   65   Butler   
203   199   Georgetown
320   322   DePaul
March 14 Team Sheets:
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/net-teamsheets-plus
MU is 13:
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/team-net-sheet?team=Marquette

[The Thing]

Really surprised to see Villanova drop 7 spots with a loss to Creighton and narrow (ugly) win to DePaul.

[PGsHeroes32]

So much for being able to get a Q1 win outta a Q1 loss to Nova tonight.

They torpedoed their metrics with that debacle.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

So much for being able to get a Q1 win outta a Q1 loss to Nova tonight.

They torpedoed their metrics with that debacle.

Yep.  Last night was the worst possible outcome. If they werent going to blow out DePaul, at least give us the entertainment of losing.

Now were just hoping Villanova can stay in the top 40 to keep three road win Q1A

[Scoop Snoop]

So much for being able to get a Q1 win outta a Q1 loss to Nova tonight.

They torpedoed their metrics with that debacle.

Yep. I told my wife that if Nova lost, Neptune might be called into the AD's office today for a final little chat.

They won, but my GAWD.

[MU82]

Last night was the worst possible outcome.

Not according to a Scooper whom I won't name. (But it rhymes with Schluggsy.)

[Herman Cain]

Big East NET Rankings as of games of March 14,2024
New  Old
2   3   UConn   
11   11   Creighton   
13   13   Marquette   
32   39   St. John's
39   40   Villanova
57   62   Providence   
62   63   Xavier   
65   64   Seton Hall   
66   66   Butler   
204   203   Georgetown   
320   320   DePaul   
March 15 Team Sheets:
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/net-teamsheets-plus
MU is 13:
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/team-net-sheet?team=Marquette