Oso planning to go pro
When will you apologize for posting the same false info here?
That would require some self-reflection and at least a modicum of self-awareness.
Ooopsie....I'm sorry, so sorry, so so sorrySI reporter apologizes for f'ing up about Clay Helton 4 days later. https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/12/04/new-sports-illustrated-sports-illustrated-can-dispute-its-own-reporting/https://youtu.be/r-TkjEdB1kE
In fairness, hoopaloop is just an interwebs troll. He should not have to be held to the same high standards as a Sports Illustrated journalist.Of course, as is often the case missed on interwebs chat boards, there is nuance to all of this. The guy who wrote the initial piece isn't actually an SI employee. In this day and age of extreme cost-cutting and shortcut-taking in the media, SI uses "local" reporters to provide everything from mundane info to "scoops." This time, SI was burned for its cheapness and its editorial strategy.In turn, the guy who wrote the piece got burned by what he felt were reliable sources. Thankfully, that's pretty rare, but it has happened since the beginning of journalism and it still happens today. I had a source tell me 20 years ago that the Cubs were not going to fire Jim Riggleman; I can't say who the source was, but if I did, there isn't a single Scooper who would have disbelieved the source. Not one. But Riggleman did get fired, which made me "wrong."I'm not defending any of that, just stating facts. SI keeping the erroneous report on its site for days is a different matter -- impossible to defend, and I won't try.Mistakes happen in every industry -- even hoopaloop's. I'll go out on a wild limb here and say that, once or twice in his life, even hoopaloop might have made one.In journalism, most such mistakes have very minor repercussions, or none at all. Every so often, they have major ones, as was the case for, say, Richard Jewell.hoopaloop stated awhile back that he was salivating to watch the Jewell movie ... and I'm not surprised, because this will be red meat to those who demonize the media. I also am interested in the movie because I was there in Atlanta, and I hope the film portrays everything accurately. In real life, it obviously was not the finest hour for either law enforcement or journalism.I do hope that after watching Jewell, hoopaloop goes home and watches All the President's Men and Spotlight -- films that show how journalists have played significant roles in rooting out true evil in society. Thankfully, great journalists are still doing that to this day.
I'm quite certain that tweet was sent out in collaboration with Helton and/or his agent so USC had to backtrack and then not fire him.One more year for Helton then Chris Pedersen comes on down to LA.
He wasn’t a SI employee until he was....And you are questioning how much of a journalist he is? Lol.That “cheapness” is because of media in this country have driven themselves out of being cared about. They did it to themselves.This line is interesting “at the end of the day, I want to be clear that my intentions as a journalist were pure — my ultimate drive is to simply provide for my family.”He sure seems to think he is a journalist.He has a degree in JournalismHe has been a journalist at a newspaper for 8 years.He has been a journalist on the digital front for 5 years.I’m pretty sure he is a journalist.And I’ve made plenty of mistakes and will in the future. But supposedly those entrusted with the public trust to give us correct information have a higher standard. One can imagine those out there that purposefully get things wrong...a Newsweek reporter fired last week...doesn’t help the media’s already poor reputation. Too many things wrong, too many slanted opinions or stories spiked to protect other other interests.I’m happy he apologized. Good for him.
I’m not a reporter who is supposed to do his job properly with vetting. Remember the higher standard BS you held to certain occupations...no different here.
The New Year's Six match up's that come out at 2pm on Sunday, might hold more drama in who gets those spots, than who will make the CFP. Final spot will be UGA, OU or Baylor.
I wonder how many high draft picks will sit out these exhibition games.
Let's make a wager, hoopaloop, OK?If you can show me where in my post I claimed he wasn't a journalist, I will donate $1,000 to your favorite charity. If you can't, you donate $1,000 to the Freedom of the Press Foundation.Deal?
Richard Jewell and Clay Helton don't feel like comparable situations
I hate when some call it that.
Richard Jewell and Clay Helton don't feel like comparable situations, but maybe that's just me.Also, has nothing to do with college football.
You said he wasn’t an employee of Sports Illustrated. Now, what you, Lenny and others normally do if i had made that mistake is call me a liar....I won’t call you a liar in this case, but I will definitely call you out on this.
Not the same, but in both cases idiocy, sloppiness, bias, rush to judgment can alter their lives. Recruits don’t come, players don’t respect lame duck coach, etc...life altering. Richard Jewel...life altering. The sloppiness and outright crap that comes out nowadays in the rush to publish, forget sources, anonymous sources, etc, can alter people’s lives. They need to be held responsible. Mistakes are one thing, outright negligence and malpractice are another. Glad the Newsweak reporter was held accountable over Thanksgiving. This happens way too much. Some great websites out there documenting just how grotesquely bad it has become.
You said he wasn’t an employee of Sports Illustrated. Now, what you, Lenny and others normally do if i had made that mistake is call me a liar....I won’t call you a liar in this case, but I will definitely call you out on this. You know, or should know, how journalism contract work is done now and how that work is represented under the header of the publisher. Who has the responsibility, etc.After your wrongfulness, I decided to also show he was a full blown journalist despite your drivel this guy as merely some local yokel. No, you didn’t say he wasn’t a journalist, instead you tried to downplay his role as one, diminish his capabilities and that SI got what they got because of their cheapness of hiring a less than qualified real deal journalist...but please deny this if you wish.Richard Jewel movie...nothing to do with red meat...it is a true story of the media and the govt Fuked up royally a man’s life. Yup mistakes happen. It’s funny when certain parts of society do it, we hold them to really high standards...I could pull out many quotes here from you, Pakuni, etc, that said exactly that....but should not the media be he,d to that same standard when they have the power to screw people?