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Schedule for 2023-24
27-10

Poll

Why didn't Buzz make any substitutions (eg freshmen)?

Being stubborn/loyal to seniors
59 (35.3%)
Testing his starters (see who steps up)
60 (35.9%)
None of the above
48 (28.7%)

Total Members Voted: 165

Author Topic: What was Buzz doing?  (Read 15394 times)

Stretchdeltsig

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Re: What was Buzz doing?
« Reply #125 on: November 19, 2013, 01:42:55 PM »
Surprised Buzz has not been able to "coach" Jamil up.  Jamil has so much talent but doesn't dominate.  You would expect that Buzz would be more effective getting the best out of Jamil.  But, nada.

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Re: What was Buzz doing?
« Reply #126 on: November 19, 2013, 01:50:42 PM »
Surprised Buzz has not been able to "coach" Jamil up.  Jamil has so much talent but doesn't dominate.  You would expect that Buzz would be more effective getting the best out of Jamil.  But, nada.
I do not think there is anything Buzz can do about Jamil. Even not starting him last year did not light a fire under him.

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Re: What was Buzz doing?
« Reply #127 on: November 19, 2013, 01:54:15 PM »
Jake, Derrick, and Jamil are all starters that should be at the end of the bench. None of them have come remotely close to playing to expectation. When we and Buzz start to admit it, we can start the change. In Buzz we trust my butt! This team will be much better when the right players are finally put on the floor.
It really does not matter whether they are playing close to your expectations. What matters (and I am assuming this) they are outplaying the other options in practice.

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Re: What was Buzz doing?
« Reply #128 on: November 19, 2013, 02:06:39 PM »
Perhaps Jamil simply isn't as talented as people think he is.  He's tall, long and can jump, but he isn't terribly quick.

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Re: What was Buzz doing?
« Reply #129 on: November 19, 2013, 02:27:30 PM »
Perhaps Jamil simply isn't as talented as people think he is.  He's tall, long and can jump, but he isn't terribly quick.
My thoughts too, plus he is a liability once he tries to dribble he travels most of the time and refs are starting to notice. Tends to start his move by moving pivot foot.
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Re: What was Buzz doing?
« Reply #130 on: November 19, 2013, 02:31:21 PM »
Perhaps Jamil simply isn't as talented as people think he is.  He's tall, long and can jump, but he isn't terribly quick.

+1

I said this on a different thread, but I think it's time we accept the fact that Jamil is what he is. He's a very good role player who will put up 10 and 5 a night. While he looks the part of the next Hayward/Butler/Crowder, he's more like the next Olouma Nnamaka.


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Re: What was Buzz doing?
« Reply #131 on: November 19, 2013, 03:35:44 PM »
Without Jamil last year we don't get past Davidson. He has talent. The entire team had an off-day all at the same time against tOSU.  Next game!

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Re: What was Buzz doing?
« Reply #132 on: November 19, 2013, 03:39:14 PM »
Without Jamil last year we don't get past Davidson. He has talent. The entire team had an off-day all at the same time against tOSU.  Next game!


Of course he has talent.  People just want to make him something he's not.

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Re: What was Buzz doing?
« Reply #133 on: November 19, 2013, 03:43:09 PM »
Perhaps Jamil simply isn't as talented as people think he is.  He's tall, long and can jump, but he isn't terribly quick.

+1 - We agree on something!   ;D

My thoughts too, plus he is a liability once he tries to dribble he travels most of the time and refs are starting to notice. Tends to start his move by moving pivot foot.
+ 1000 - Agree...Jamil just doesn't have an explosive first step....part of that is simply that he's 6'8", but he plays very up and down/erect - not great body lean or ability to get low...

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Re: What was Buzz doing?
« Reply #134 on: November 19, 2013, 03:47:45 PM »

Buzz is in a tough spot right now - I would test the unproven players as much as possible as you pretty much know the ceiling on Derrick and Jake which is not high D1 ball...

Agree - Out of loyalty and politically to an extent - Buzz owes the "vets" a fair shake at proving they deserve the majorit/max minutes at the 1 and 2.  I suspect we'll see Derrick and Jake get lots of PT again against Wisconsin and Arizona State.  If they continue to struggle - Buzz then can say:  Derrick, Jake - Wanted to give you a good and fair shake to earn max minutes, but it just isn't working out.  I need to see what the young guys - Dawson and JJJ can do.

Every coach faces that dilemma - as you don't want to lose the vets and affect their attitude negatively.  If Jake and Derrick continue to struggle - they can't really fault or argue with Buzz going away from them.  Steve Fischer dealt with that with the Fab 5 - and basically didn't start Ray King so as to not lose the entire team..would have been a mutiny of sorts of from Day 1 of the season the Fab 5 all started.
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Re: What was Buzz doing?
« Reply #135 on: November 19, 2013, 06:38:25 PM »
I would to have seen where Ferguson would fit in the lineup.

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Re: What was Buzz doing?
« Reply #136 on: November 20, 2013, 07:33:10 AM »
I would to have seen where Ferguson would fit in the lineup.

Right next to JJJ and Dawson.


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Re: What was Buzz doing?
« Reply #137 on: November 20, 2013, 08:48:45 AM »
Without Jamil last year we don't get past Davidson. He has talent. The entire team had an off-day all at the same time against tOSU.  Next game!
It seems to me that Jamil only cares about playing in March.