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Author Topic: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad  (Read 10395 times)

JakeBarnes

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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2022, 01:29:50 PM »
Bad because they're best player is returning after being out for 2 of the games, and Creighton just hurt their resume for 5 straight games.

Even if Marquette wins, the win looks worse.

I forgot the committee has the "this win looked worse on the boards" metric.
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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2022, 02:20:05 PM »
Are we certain there best player will be playing in they’re next game after being out to or know?

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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2022, 02:20:43 PM »
More than anything, this is an opportunity for this Marquette team to get better.  They'll probably still hover around .500 give or take a game or 2 just because the Big East will find itself as the season rolls along.

I know some would be disappointed with a .500 conference record but a lot of the league will be right around there too. Should be a fun and competitive year across the board and this is a great first test. 

You might also say we have motivation after going 0-3 against Creighton last year.  Either way I expect this team to come out with a lot of energy and effort.  Don't worry about what Creighton will bring or how desperate they will be, play our game.  Last year we started 0-3 in league play and dug ourselves a little hole to start.  Hopefully this year we get out to a hot start in league play!
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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2022, 04:00:46 PM »
We’re going to get Creighton’s best shot, that much is almost certain.

And that’s what we need to continue to get better.

I hope we catch every Big East team at their best.


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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2022, 04:09:46 PM »
We’re going to get Creighton’s best shot, that much is almost certain.

And that’s what we need to continue to get better.

I hope we catch every Big East team at their best.

Why would we get anything less than anyone’s best?
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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2022, 05:26:04 PM »
Why would we get anything less than anyone’s best?

So you’re saying college kids aren’t subject to trends and things like urgency?

Kids never come out uninspired after a big win or like a fire has been lit under them after a losing streak?

I get that you have to play devil’s advocate; after all, this is Scoop. However, ask a Vegas line maker if everything is analytics and it all happens in a vacuum.


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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #31 on: December 13, 2022, 05:56:59 PM »
So you’re saying college kids aren’t subject to trends and things like urgency?

Kids never come out uninspired after a big win or like a fire has been lit under them after a losing streak?

I get that you have to play devil’s advocate; after all, this is Scoop. However, ask a Vegas line maker if everything is analytics and it all happens in a vacuum.

I’m not sure what “college kids aren’t subject to trends” even means.

But yes, I think Vegas is actually making their lines based on the results of a team’s play and not some imagined desperation a team will feel. Otherwise Georgetown would be huge favorites in every Big East game until they win one. I mean, they’ve lost like 21 straight Big East games. With that amount of desperation how have they not blown the doors off of their next opponent every game?
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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #32 on: December 13, 2022, 06:07:43 PM »
I’m not sure what “college kids aren’t subject to trends” even means.

But yes, I think Vegas is actually making their lines based on the results of a team’s play and not some imagined desperation a team will feel. Otherwise Georgetown would be huge favorites in every Big East game until they win one. I mean, they’ve lost like 21 straight Big East games. With that amount of desperation how have they not blown the doors off of their next opponent every game?

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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #33 on: December 13, 2022, 06:49:34 PM »
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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #34 on: December 13, 2022, 06:55:06 PM »
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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #35 on: December 13, 2022, 07:17:37 PM »
For every "they won because they lost x games in a row and were desperate for a win" there seems to be an equal numbers of "they lost because they lost x games in  a row and are completely lost right now". I think college athletes can be influenced by recent performances but I don't think there's anyway to accurately predict if the recent performance is going to have a positive, negative, or neutral impact.

What I will say is that Creighton's defense doesn't work without Kalkbrenner. If he's out or significantly limited, Marquette should win by a significant amount. If he's back, this will be a tough matchup because he is a Kolek killer.
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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #36 on: December 13, 2022, 09:38:30 PM »
It's the conference opener for both teams. If a coach can't get his players psyched up for that game no matter how many in a row they've won or lost, he should be fired.

Creighton was gonna be pumped for this game no matter what. As Marquette would have been.

We need to play well to win because of the talent Creighton puts on the floor, not because Creighton is on a 4-game 5-game losing streak.

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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #37 on: December 13, 2022, 09:51:18 PM »
It's the conference opener for both teams. If a coach can't get his players psyched up for that game no matter how many in a row they've won or lost, he should be fired.

Creighton was gonna be pumped for this game no matter what. As Marquette would have been.

We need to play well to win because of the talent Creighton puts on the floor, not because Creighton is on a 4-game losing streak.

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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #38 on: December 13, 2022, 09:57:42 PM »
Are we certain there best player will be playing in they’re next game after being out to or know?
Their message board seems pretty sure it's mono and it might be mid Jan before he can play.

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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #39 on: December 13, 2022, 10:13:27 PM »
Can you have a 5 game losing streak without having a 4 game losing streak?
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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #40 on: December 13, 2022, 10:14:25 PM »
Jop should’ve been given a flagrant 3 tbh
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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #41 on: December 13, 2022, 11:37:07 PM »
I still think we need to score more points.

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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #42 on: December 14, 2022, 07:11:00 AM »
I still think we need to score more points.
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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2022, 07:14:28 AM »
Their message board seems pretty sure it's mono and it might be mid Jan before he can play.

I’m no doctor but isn’t mono contagious? He’s been on the bench the last few games. I’d think if it were mono they’d have him at home resting
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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2022, 08:08:25 AM »
4 is the new 5
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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #45 on: December 14, 2022, 08:47:34 AM »
I’m no doctor but isn’t mono contagious? He’s been on the bench the last few games. I’d think if it were mono they’d have him at home resting

It is. But primarily if he is making out with people on the team or spitting on them.
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Re: Catching Creighton on 5 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #46 on: December 14, 2022, 08:54:43 AM »
Those are distinct possibilities on the plantation. especially expectoration.

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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #47 on: December 14, 2022, 09:18:05 AM »
It is. But primarily if he is making out with people on the team or spitting on them.

Yes usually not airborne, but I would not want to be near him if he sneezes.   That could spread it through droplets.  I was surprised he was with the team.   Rest is the key to getting over it and I think it takes a while.   

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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #48 on: December 14, 2022, 09:41:22 AM »
It is. But primarily if he is making out with people on the team or spitting on them.

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Re: Catching Creighton on 4 game lose streak Good or Bad
« Reply #49 on: December 14, 2022, 10:44:43 AM »
Has anyone watched Blue Mountain State when the whole team gets Cyphalis? "What, are they all banging each other?" "Happened before in 95..."

I miss Blue Mountain State
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