Kolek planning to go pro
OK, but that's always been the case. I just don't see how NIL changes that.
It’s a straw man argument against players getting compensated. This weird belief players only played for the jersey and not themselves as amateurs. It’s always been a stupid argument about the moral superiority of the college game
Keep pounding on that dead horse. You are asking for a guy who has had injuries in 7 of the last 8 years to keep firing at the beginning of the season after a short Spring training.Mind boggling.
Then why pitch him at all if he may injure himself.
TAMUI do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.
I think the discussion is much more nuanced than that and don't agree with aspects of your general conclusion. The fact is even the greatest NBA players, if they were lucky enough to get to a F4 or go deep in the NCAA tournament, much more often than not, revere those experiences far more than their pro career. Now because of the new transfer rules, things have definitely changed. But for those fortunate enough to play high D-1 basketball I don't think they would trade those years when they reminisce as old men. Also, the vast majority of people have college friends for life. The social dynamic is much different sitting on an NBA or pro bench. I'm not saying the college game is "morally superior" but I do think internally it means more to a high percentage of ballers.
You may be right, but what does this have to do with anything being discussed in this thread?Also, are you close enough with a significant amount of "greatest NBA players" to know that "much more often than not" they revere their time in college more than they do in the pros?Also, even if time in college does "mean more to a high percentage of ballers", do you think that high percentage of ballers also wishes they could have gotten paid for their NIL in college? Cause if the answer is yes, then your point is irrelevant. If the answer is no, you're lying to yourself.Again, I get the competitive balance concerns. They are logical, they make sense. I do not get this idea that college basketball is somehow better because the players are unpaid.
Via Jeff Goodman"Agents ALL OVER these college guys for NIL because they can make 15-20 percent off NIL as opposed to 4 percent off salary."
The fact is even the greatest NBA players, if they were lucky enough to get to a F4 or go deep in the NCAA tournament, much more often than not, revere those experiences far more than their pro career.
Long thread that started with Justin. But it certainly has moved away into what is college bb and how will it evolve after NIL. I love college bb because it is played by amateurs. AND most importantly, because I spent my childhood out on the drive way and in the parks shooting buckets with my friends. And every fall is like the fantasy football draft. You start over, always with high expectations. We all know other programs have certain advantages. They're always in the top twenty. But this year we saw the #1 team in the county get run out by Arkansas. And we have seen Jay Wright cut down the nets twice. You can't change schools if you're an alumni or a kid who grew up in Wisconsin. We're always going to be underdogs. And I will root for the underdog until the day I die.
Lots of nba guys looking very uninterested tonight. Probably too worried about their “bling” and automobiles.
This is not the regular season panda.
Do teams get to the post season by not caring ?
I think it's because college players are less confident that they will make money playing professionally, so they play with more passion and dare I say reckless abandon. Jump on the floor when there's a lose ball. Take a charge, even if it's hard. Run, run, run. And don't ever quit even if you're tired. That's the hardest thing about college bb. You get tired and torn down and you have to keep going and get it up and get the rebound and if it bounces off the rim you have to get up again. Is there anything more rewarding than saying you worked your arse off and won? Sorry. No one want's to hear my lecture. But it's a lesson in life. Work hard. Succeed. Give me 5 kids who want to win over eight guys who want a briefcase full of cash. We'll meet you at center court and we won't be scared.
Name me one player in the years around 95 or 96.
No, but there are games where guys sit out as well as those where they go through the motions for various reasons.
To the extent this is true it's because the NBA season is too long. Make it thirty games like college basketball and you'd see a big difference.