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Re: Justin
« Reply #450 on: April 20, 2022, 07:13:52 PM »
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 20, 2022, 07:07:46 PM
2 million is the disaster.

Why is a player making 2 million, thereby keeping him in college instead of the pros, a disaster for college hoops?
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Re: Justin
« Reply #451 on: April 20, 2022, 07:18:24 PM »
Quote from: Goose on April 20, 2022, 07:12:01 PM
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I love the NIL because it will bring good donors out and the crooks now have competition. There are good folks that would not give dirty money that very well might join the NIL game now. It is a new game, but I think it levels the playing field. Off the top of my head, I can think of a half dozen MU alums that back the school already and might participate in the NIL program.

Yep. Programs that complain about fairness will be left behind. Programs that use creativity to leverage resources will reign supreme. And I don’t think people have any idea of the resources that are out there. For every big name that Scoopers have heard of, there are a half dozen that they don’t know about.
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Re: Justin
« Reply #452 on: April 20, 2022, 07:19:21 PM »
TAMU

What is your take on the NIL program, big picture?
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Re: Justin
« Reply #453 on: April 20, 2022, 07:25:42 PM »
Goose, what if Harvard decides it wants to win championships?  How could any school compete with them?  And you could say they're above that with their academic standards but we know what Duke has done.  They could basically poach any player they want that Duke has gotten. 
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Re: Justin
« Reply #454 on: April 20, 2022, 07:27:53 PM »
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 20, 2022, 07:13:52 PM
Why is a player making 2 million, thereby keeping him in college instead of the pros, a disaster for college hoops?

I don't think bidding for players is good for the sport.  As far as I know there is no NIL limit.  My concern is not only will the sane schools with huge money get the best players but the product will be considerably worse if they're paid. 
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Re: Justin
« Reply #455 on: April 20, 2022, 07:32:13 PM »
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 20, 2022, 07:25:42 PM
Goose, what if Harvard decides it wants to win championships?  How could any school compete with them?  And you could say they're above that with their academic standards but we know what Duke has done.  They could basically poach any player they want that Duke has gotten. 

Lol. Sure.
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Re: Justin
« Reply #456 on: April 20, 2022, 07:32:43 PM »
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 20, 2022, 07:25:42 PM
Goose, what if Harvard decides it wants to win championships?  How could any school compete with them?  And you could say they're above that with their academic standards but we know what Duke has done.  They could basically poach any player they want that Duke has gotten.

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Re: Justin
« Reply #457 on: April 20, 2022, 07:35:22 PM »
Muggsy,

Yes, if Harvard wanted to buy a national powerhouse they definitely could fund it. As a fan, I would prefer Harvard winning that battle over Kentucky. That said, I would hope that Harvard has higher aspirations than one upping Kentucky in men's basketball. As I said in another post, I think paying a number of guys reasonable money will beat out paying 1-2 guys crazy money for one year over the long haul.
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Re: Justin
« Reply #458 on: April 20, 2022, 07:40:24 PM »
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Nothing, I hope.  He’s terrible.  Ever see his body language?
Yes, lazy and uninterested.
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Re: Justin
« Reply #459 on: April 20, 2022, 07:44:30 PM »
Quote from: Goose on April 20, 2022, 07:35:22 PM
Muggsy,

Yes, if Harvard wanted to buy a national powerhouse they definitely could fund it. As a fan, I would prefer Harvard winning that battle over Kentucky. That said, I would hope that Harvard has higher aspirations than one upping Kentucky in men's basketball. As I said in another post, I think paying a number of guys reasonable money will beat out paying 1-2 guys crazy money for one year over the long haul.

As far as I know there is no NIL cap.  If I was the Prez of Harvard  I would be on pace to win 10 titles in the next 10 yrs and go like 420-0.
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Re: Justin
« Reply #460 on: April 20, 2022, 07:45:33 PM »
Muggsy

Kentucky has no salary cap for 50+ years and have won how many championships?
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Re: Justin
« Reply #461 on: April 20, 2022, 07:45:46 PM »
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 20, 2022, 07:44:30 PM
As far as I know there is no NIL cap.  If I was the Prez of Harvard  I would be on pace to win 10 titles in the next 10 yrs and go like 420-0.

Lol, what?
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Re: Justin
« Reply #462 on: April 20, 2022, 07:55:18 PM »
Quote from: Goose on April 20, 2022, 07:45:33 PM
Muggsy

Kentucky has no salary cap for 50+ years and have won how many championships?

I would buy the right players and poach them fron all pockets of the country.  I'm being a little hyperbolic but I'm sure you understand my point. 
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Re: Justin
« Reply #463 on: April 20, 2022, 07:58:16 PM »
Do we feell Marquette can and will be competitive when it comes to the NiL landscape?

Maybe this is a bit COLE, but I can see Marquette being hurt more then helped by it but hopefully I’m way off base.
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Re: Justin
« Reply #464 on: April 20, 2022, 08:21:38 PM »
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 20, 2022, 07:55:18 PM
I would buy the right players and poach them fron all pockets of the country.  I'm being a little hyperbolic but I'm sure you understand my point.
I don't think that is Harvard donor's priority. Trust me, 10 of my '79 high school class went to Harvard, are filthy wealthy and they would not donate a penny for sports.
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Re: Justin
« Reply #465 on: April 20, 2022, 08:23:44 PM »
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 20, 2022, 05:38:28 PM
This is a disaster for college hoops.  Do I have to cash out my portfolio or will you and other scoopers take care of this stuff immediately?
No, but we have very wealthy donors who could match that if they wanted. Marcus Lemonis says hi! There are plenty of others.
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Re: Justin
« Reply #466 on: April 20, 2022, 08:26:04 PM »
Newsie

Far bigger fish than Marcus, but he can join the party.
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Re: Justin
« Reply #467 on: April 20, 2022, 08:28:44 PM »
Wait you mean the best players get paid to play at the best colleges? That’s really going to screw up the landscape of college basketball.
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Re: Justin
« Reply #468 on: April 20, 2022, 08:33:32 PM »
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Wait you mean the best players get paid to play at the best colleges? That’s really going to screw up the landscape of college basketball.

I'm worried about 7 figure bags of cash panda.  Players have been paid but it could get to be a bidding clown show.
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Re: Justin
« Reply #469 on: April 20, 2022, 08:45:47 PM »
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If you are a shoe company, why wouldn't you pay players via NIL to raise their profile at the right place to guarantee they sign with you down the road.

Or an agent for that matter too.

Shoe money will probably shift from AAU teams to individual players.
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Re: Justin
« Reply #470 on: April 20, 2022, 08:53:49 PM »
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 20, 2022, 08:33:32 PM
I'm worried about 7 figure bags of cash panda.  Players have been paid but it could get to be a bidding clown show.

How does this change the landscape of college basketball ?
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Re: Justin
« Reply #471 on: April 20, 2022, 09:04:16 PM »
Quote from: panda on April 20, 2022, 08:53:49 PM
How does this change the landscape of college basketball ?

We may have to find some auxiliary cash or work harder to compete. 
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Re: Justin
« Reply #472 on: April 20, 2022, 09:17:22 PM »
Can't see how Justin will play any minutes in the NBA. He needs to grow more in college. He's not that great of a college player now. He's got potential.
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Re: Justin
« Reply #473 on: April 20, 2022, 09:23:16 PM »
Wow, we're throwing "disaster" around quite casually today.

Oscar Tshiebwe getting a huge NIL deal is a "disaster." Wright leaving is a "disaster."

At least folks aren't saying it's "literally a disaster," so there's that!
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Re: Justin
« Reply #474 on: April 20, 2022, 09:25:23 PM »
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 20, 2022, 09:04:16 PM
We may have to find some auxiliary cash or work harder to compete.

Idk how often we’ve competed or will be competing with Kentucky for players so I’m not really too concerned.
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