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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #3650 on: October 01, 2024, 09:47:32 AM »
Gonzaga to PacX official.

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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #3651 on: October 01, 2024, 10:09:38 AM »
Gonzaga to PacX official.

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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #3652 on: October 01, 2024, 10:13:17 AM »
Big East should've done this when they welcomed UCONN back.
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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #3653 on: October 01, 2024, 10:13:39 AM »
Big East should've done this when they welcomed UCONN back.

Probably but this is better for Gonzaga
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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #3654 on: October 01, 2024, 10:17:51 AM »
this may not be the last WCC defection.
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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #3655 on: October 01, 2024, 10:19:37 AM »
I'm sure it was debated by the BE and by Gonzaga. It was always going to be problematic due to geography. This is a much better all around.

Also, UTEP is joining the MWC from CUSA. That means that each conference is still short membership. MWC needs a full member and the Pac 12 needs another football member (I think).  Will Hawaii jump to the P12 as a football only member to balance out Gonzaga?
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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #3656 on: October 01, 2024, 10:32:59 AM »
Big East should've done this when they welcomed UCONN back.

I'm glad they didn't take a chance on post-Mark Few Gonzaga.  If they were closer, however, I wouldn't mind that chance.
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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #3657 on: October 01, 2024, 11:05:36 AM »
Gonzaga waited until the PAC 12 lost all their good teams!

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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #3658 on: October 01, 2024, 11:24:22 AM »
Gonzaga waited until the PAC 12 lost all their good teams!

The classic Pac-12 never wanted them, but the MWC did. This is a much better fit for GU geographically, especially with Wazzu and Boise State twice a year and no more sub 250 NET teams like Pacific, Portland, Pepperdine, etc.

I don't know how serious discussions with St. Mary's were; if they happened at all. Men's Hoops is strong but the rest of the department is underfunded, facilities are bad, and the school is losing enrollment. Better options to swipe from the WCC or Big West for hoops only (UCSB to get a LA presence).
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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #3659 on: October 01, 2024, 12:26:47 PM »
I'd guess, but not positive, the BE could still get the Zags in the future.

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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #3660 on: October 01, 2024, 01:03:25 PM »
I'd guess, but not positive, the BE could still get the Zags in the future.

No need.

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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #3661 on: October 01, 2024, 01:08:19 PM »
No need.

Too many bulldog mascots already?

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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #3662 on: October 01, 2024, 02:25:44 PM »

Too many bulldog mascots already?

The Big East sponsors 24 sports. The cost of travel and scheduling for the other 23 sports doesn't go away merely by adding a school  in Spokane, WA.

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« Reply #3663 on: October 01, 2024, 02:41:02 PM »
The Big East sponsors 24 sports. The cost of travel and scheduling for the other 23 sports doesn't go away merely by adding a school  in Spokane, WA.

This isn't entirely accurate. First, they sponsor 20 sports (10 for each gender), but a bunch of these have both genders travel and compete together (outdoor track, indoor track, cross country, swimming) And a bunch also don't require head to head conference match-ups but a one-time conference tournament. (some of the aforementioned sports plus golf.)
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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #3664 on: October 01, 2024, 03:52:39 PM »
The Big East sponsors 24 sports. The cost of travel and scheduling for the other 23 sports doesn't go away merely by adding a school  in Spokane, WA.

Nor does the cost of travel and scheduling for schools in NJ for the various other sports go away by adding schools from LA.

Sitting back and being reactive is how you get left behind in today's day and age of constant conference realignment.  If the BE gets a chance to strengthen it's basketball profile, it absolutely should.
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« Reply #3665 on: October 01, 2024, 04:02:03 PM »
Nor does the cost of travel and scheduling for schools in NJ for the various other sports go away by adding schools from LA.

Sitting back and being reactive is how you get left behind in today's day and age of constant conference realignment.  If the BE gets a chance to strengthen it's basketball profile, it absolutely should.

I am curious as to how his would play out. Your thoughts?

The PAC12/Gonzaga deal makes the bball landscape interesting. A "one-off", the first shoe to drop, or somewhere in between?
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« Reply #3666 on: October 01, 2024, 04:06:57 PM »
I am curious as to how his would play out. Your thoughts?

The PAC12/Gonzaga deal makes the bball landscape interesting. A "one-off", the first shoe to drop, or somewhere in between?

I would think more of a 1 off.  The PAC12 is trying to stay alive as a mid major.  I guess the ACC could do something similar when they eventually get picked off by the SEC/B1G/B12, but I would guess there won't be a ton of conferences taking only a school's basketball team in it's conference.
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« Reply #3667 on: October 01, 2024, 05:15:28 PM »
I would think more of a 1 off.  The PAC12 is trying to stay alive as a mid major.  I guess the ACC could do something similar when they eventually get picked off by the SEC/B1G/B12, but I would guess there won't be a ton of conferences taking only a school's basketball team in it's conference.

I think and hope that you are right. While the first post-old BE conference shakeup happened, I confess that I was among the people laughing off the FB conference struggles and smugly believed that the BE was immune from being poached. Now? I'm not laughing anymore. I'm nervous.

Is it possible that we would gain valuable new members? Sure. But, as much as I hate to admit it, I think we would more likely be the losers.
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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #3668 on: October 01, 2024, 06:12:54 PM »
Nor does the cost of travel and scheduling for schools in NJ for the various other sports go away by adding schools from LA.

Except that the State University of New Jersey will get approximately 10x more TV revenues than they would get in the Big East to send those teams to LA, Eugene, Seattle, etc.

Sitting back and being reactive is how you get left behind in today's day and age of constant conference realignment.  If the BE gets a chance to strengthen it's basketball profile, it absolutely should.

I suspect the Big East has decided that 11 (or 10) will carry them to the next round of musical chairs when the ACC goes through the sausage grinder. Overexpansion certainly hurt the Big East in the past.

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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #3669 on: October 02, 2024, 05:59:24 AM »
Sounds like UConn is passing on football only membership in the Pac-? at this time.

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Re: More conference realignment talk
« Reply #3670 on: October 03, 2024, 01:48:51 PM »
Adding UConn as a football-only member would make zero sense for the Pac 12. I'll believe it when I see it.

Like the Big 12 "considering" UConn as a full member, this feels more like wish-casting from UConn's athletics department. Football is holding them back from joining a Power 3 conference and they're desperately trying to convince us their football program is valuable. It isn't. It's one of the absolute worst in the country, an albatross.

 

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