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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Wade for President on January 10, 2011, 08:51:06 PM
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In the 2nd half, Bilas said that he doesn't remember seeing anybody work harder posting up than Otule. Bilas seemed borderline frustrated that MU didn't work the ball down low to the big fella more often for high percentage shots. The one play in particular, was when DJO forced a drive (and subsequent turnover), after Otule had incredible positioning down low.
Not only is it nice to reward Otule for his efforts on the blocks, but think what a few more passes to the post could do to free up our three point shooting (which has suddenly become an asset).
A lot of Scoopers have been critical of Otule at times this year (myself included), but his effort and hustle have been unwavering. Great game Chris. If we are going to make any noise in the Big East, we're going to need ya.
Sidenote...I'm convinced Rafferty & Bilas could make a 5th grade girls game interesting.
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when is the last time a DJO drive actually ended with a dish off?
answer: maybe never
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Sidenote...I'm convinced Rafferty & Bilas could make a 5th grade girls game interesting.
I can see that becoming an ESPN commercial, Rafferty & Bilas announcing a 5th grade girls game. I heard Rafferty said " Get on Buycks its peddling time".
Otule works so hard down on the blocks so give him the ball and let him score or kick it back out for a three (which usually happened)
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Bilas is, by far, the best in the business.
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when is the last time a DJO drive actually ended with a dish off?
answer: maybe never
DJO does cause Jerel flashbacks when he gets the ball and starts heading to the hoop. For better or for worse.
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Sidenote...I'm convinced Rafferty & Bilas could make a 5th grade girls game interesting.
Actually I went to my fifth grade daughters game earlier this afternoon and they won 6 to 2. I'm not sure Raf and Bilas are this good, not sure anyone is.
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In the Pitt game, CO got a dunk off a DJO drive and Dish. DJO lead us in Assists for the PITT game with 5. DW and Jr had 3ea.
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Otule really worked hard posting up...he defended pretty well too...
But man, he cannot rebound. Our tallest guy, who is rarely away from the basket, and he had 3 rebs in 18 minutes.
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Bilas is, by far, the best in the business.
No doubt about it. And Raftery is hilarious. "Get the lingerie off the deck!!"
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Saw Bilas and Rafferty at Mo's lady night. Rafferty was hammered. It was quite entertaining to listen to what they had to say. They were very positive about Marquette and had a lot of nice things to say about the team.
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Bilas is, by far, the best in the business.
Many NBA announcers are better than Bilas. Hubie Brown is the best in the business. He is the anti-Matt Millen.
In college, George Thompson was 100x's better and still is when he decides to come out of hiding. I would take Mac or the silky smooth styings of Tony Smith over Jay Bilas. Jay Bilas is a smart guy, but he's essentially an ESPN pimp.
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I was at the game too and I thought that Chris played a very solid game - and he does work so hard for position, and Bilas is right - we don't feed him enough. But in the earlier games, when Gardner was in the ball went into him regularly. I think we need to feed Chris more.
Great game tonight - wow!
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when is the last time a DJO drive actually ended with a dish off?
answer: maybe never
Holy Crap....mark this day down in history where Robbie and I agree on something.
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Many NBA announcers are better than Bilas. Hubie Brown is the best in the business. He is the anti-Matt Millen.
In college, George Thompson was 100x's better and still is when he decides to come out of hiding. I would take Mac or the silky smooth styings of Tony Smith over Jay Bilas. Jay Bilas is a smart guy, but he's essentially an ESPN pimp.
Isn't being the least pimpy of the ESPN pimps worth something these days? Give the guy some credit... he knows college ball and isn't some schmuck entertainer posing as a basketball guru (paging Dick Vitale). Not quite the analyst that BK is (nobody is), but Bilas is definitely in the same tier.
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Holy Crap....mark this day down in history where Robbie and I agree on something.
Except, as mentioned, it happened in the Pitt game just 2 days ago. Great drive by DJO, flipped a little pass to Otule who finished.
It doesn't happen often, admittedly, but the last time a DJO drive ended in a dish was the last game :-\
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Except, as mentioned, it happened in the Pitt game just 2 days ago. Great drive by DJO, flipped a little pass to Otule who finished.
It doesn't happen often, admittedly, but the last time a DJO drive ended in a dish was the last game :-\
He said maybe never, I took that to mean on very rare occasions. I saw DJO do it once before earlier this season and almost fell out of my chair in astonishment.
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when is the last time a DJO drive actually ended with a dish off?
answer: maybe never
C'mon man! He still had 5 assists yesterday.
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Otule really worked hard posting up...he defended pretty well too...
But man, he cannot rebound. Our tallest guy, who is rarely away from the basket, and he had 3 rebs in 18 minutes.
I can think of several rebounds by Jimmy and Jae that were due to Chris clearing out the lane. He doesn't always have to get the rebound to help our rebounding. sometimes he is clearing out their top rebounder who would easily push our smaller guys aside.
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In college, George Thompson was 100x's better and still is when he decides to come out of hiding.
No way....imho
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Not one "ONIONS!" though out of Rafferty last night....
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While Bilas made a great point last night, I didn't like that comment at all as it perpetuates the reason why MU can't get big people to come here. If I'm a C/PF high school star who finished watching that game, I'm not thinking to myself, "Man, that team has everything but a great big man. If they just had a good big guy they could go far. I could be the missing piece, gets lots of playing time for a winning team..." Instead, I'm thinking, "That big guy is busting his butt and those freaking guards never look to get him the ball. I don't want to go there and set screens for four years."
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While Bilas made a great point last night, I didn't like that comment at all as it perpetuates the reason why MU can't get big people to come here. If I'm a C/PF high school star who finished watching that game, I'm not thinking to myself, "Man, that team has everything but a great big man. If they just had a good big guy they could go far. I could be the missing piece, gets lots of playing time for a winning team..." Instead, I'm thinking, "That big guy is busting his butt and those freaking guards never look to get him the ball. I don't want to go there and set screens for four years."
Disagree totally with your comment. In fact Mu did get the ball to Otule. In fact other posters have referenced and i think anyone watching would readily agree that the ball goes into the post much more quickly when DG is in there. As Chris becomes more and more effective the ball will go in more and more.
I would also guess that if it was Van, DB, or Junior on that same play the ball probably ends up in Otules hands.
The replay if nothing else highlighted that often times DJO become a whirling dervish on his drives and the result is either a shot or a TO yet rarely a dish off.
Compare the percentage of drives of Junior DB and VAn that result in draw and dishes and then compare the percentage of Djo's that do.
DJO is a good offensive player, his greatest weakness offensively right now is probably his tunnel vision when driving.
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DJO is a good offensive player, his greatest weakness offensively right now is probably his tunnel vision when driving.
And Otule's greatest weakness is single-vision. But both appear to be working through their weaknesses and are more than compensating for it elsewhere on the court.
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Not one "ONIONS!" though out of Rafferty last night....
I think he saves those for a dogfight that ends with a marked dagger. No doubt, he's the most original color guy in college hoops. I obviously stole one of his catch-phrases for my user name.
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The best thing about Bilas is that he is NOT Dickie V!!!!!!
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I agree with Bilas that Otule worked hard for position underneath and too often was not passed to. Marquette is a much better team with Otule playing aggressively on the post. He showed great moves last night and made some timely baskets.
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Many NBA announcers are better than Bilas. Hubie Brown is the best in the business. He is the anti-Matt Millen.
In college, George Thompson was 100x's better and still is when he decides to come out of hiding. I would take Mac or the silky smooth styings of Tony Smith over Jay Bilas. Jay Bilas is a smart guy, but he's essentially an ESPN pimp.
Sorry, I have to agree with GO MU and MUB-ball as Bilas is the best. My favorite team is Bilas-Rafferty-McDonough as they are knowledgeable, analytical and entertaining.
Other commentators or announcers I like: Majerus when was in the booth, Knight, Franschilla, Dykes, and Kellogg are also good. Steve Lavin was decent but was better in the half time analysis than doing the game along with Gotlieb and Greg Anthony.
Len Elmore is brutal and I don't care too much for Digger or Hubert Brown. When it comes tourney time, it’s never good when Seth Davis picks MU as he seems to be a Mush.
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I think he saves those for a dogfight that ends with a marked dagger. No doubt, he's the most original color guy in college hoops. I obviously stole one of his catch-phrases for my user name.
I still laugh at his quote from this great moment in MU history:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlymqXcruCU
"Send it in medium-sized fella!!!"
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I still laugh at his quote from this great moment in MU history:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlymqXcruCU
"Send it in medium-sized fella!!!"
Loved that
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Disagree totally with your comment. In fact Mu did get the ball to Otule. In fact other posters have referenced and i think anyone watching would readily agree that the ball goes into the post much more quickly when DG is in there. As Chris becomes more and more effective the ball will go in more and more.
I would also guess that if it was Van, DB, or Junior on that same play the ball probably ends up in Otules hands.
The replay if nothing else highlighted that often times DJO become a whirling dervish on his drives and the result is either a shot or a TO yet rarely a dish off.
Compare the percentage of drives of Junior DB and VAn that result in draw and dishes and then compare the percentage of Djo's that do.
DJO is a good offensive player, his greatest weakness offensively right now is probably his tunnel vision when driving.
My point was that the comment would drive a potential interior recruit to think that.
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when is the last time a DJO drive actually ended with a dish off?
answer: maybe never
Florida ST. He threw it over Buyckes head and we failed to get a potential game winning shot off.
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I am assuming that Otule is going to fight hard for position no matter which side of the lane he is on. However, we have to remember he is blind in one eye. I do not know which one, but I am sure his teammates do. Not only does Otule have to be open but the player with the ball has to be in the correct position to pass the ball to him. It cannot be a bounce pass and it cannot be a quick short pass. Cadougan threw him a perfect pass. A slow ead high pass which he caught, turned and scored. It was a perfect play. His failure to rebound has to do with his eyesite as the ball will often come quickly off the rim and he just cannot judge it quickly enough to react.
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Florida ST. He threw it over Buyckes head and we failed to get a potential game winning shot off.
I recall that Buycks was the one who threw the ball away, not DJO.
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I still laugh at his quote from this great moment in MU history:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlymqXcruCU
"Send it in medium-sized fella!!!"
Nice Find! Raft and Bilas are hands down the best!
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when is the last time a DJO drive actually ended with a dish off?
answer: maybe never
Wasn't that DJO who had the pass to Chris for the dunk at Vandy?
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There is no doubt that DJO passes the ball. However, if it is a fast break he will not give up the ball.
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There is no doubt that DJO passes the ball. However, if it is a fast break he will not give up the ball.
That is usually OK as he most often outruns the defender to the hoop and either jams, which the fans love, and gets the team jacked, or he is fouled.