Oso planning to go pro
tamu, i actually applaud the fact that MU had their police there as they should for any event of certain size or potential volatility. don't know what i said that you interpreted to mean anything contrary. don't be like hards et.al. and put me on auto argue because, well, there goes rocket again.
TAMUI do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.
Not everyone has you as parents Dgies. I'm sure you would agree that you and your wife were instrumental to preparing your children for success in college. Not every college student has that benefit. If you don't have these types of intervention programs, the alternative is that the student fails out, while still owing tens of thousands in student loans with no degree to show for it. That is potentially setting up an already struggling individual for a lifetime of debt and put them in a position where they have to rely on government assistance programs.IMO, the true value of college is not in the technical knowledge that gets learned in the classroom but rather that it gives young people who (for the most part) have never had to live on their own before and have always had someone else directing their life, a place to learn how to live on their own and be successful while having access to additional supports that don't exist in the real world. Theoretically, college helps take someone who may have no idea how to live on their own and launches them into the working world as a fully (or at least mostly) capable adult.
I would expect a school with a stated goal to attract more first generation college students would have support systems in place. I don’t think MU should be looked down on for providing extra support.
Our focus as a country should be on pre K education in our economically disadvantaged areas. It should be free and the teachers should be well compensated. We should use our resources to teach kids ages 2-5 in lieu of a lot of wasteful spending. The national goal should be for kids to read before kindergarten and there's zero reason why they can't. I've yet to hear a politician on either side propose this and it's basic common sense.
Cool. Not sure what that has to do with what we are talking about. But cool.
I'm not sure your theoretical example exists anymore for the majority of 18-22 yr olds. Also, "Having no idea how to live on your own" is ostensibly ubiquitous for people that have never lived on their own. No matter where they're from, their race, ethnicity, creed, gender, or height. Additionally a child brought up in a difficult environment, with neglectful parents, may be more equipped to live on their own at an earlier age than brother dgies was. I'm not sold that the purpose of college today is actually to teach kids how to be adults, take care of themselves, or be a panacea for bad parenting.
That's a lot of words to say that you disagree but give no reason for why.
I disagree with your basic premise.. The purpose of college (at least historically) is to give students the tools and passion necessary to pursue life-long learning. I'm not sure this is the case anymore for a myriad of reasons.
That doesn't disagree with what I said, just uses different words to say the same thing
Lots of politicians have proposed free Pre-K and it has been passed in a lot of areas -- including the county where I live, NC's largest. Except for the "well compensated teacher" part. Hopefully that's coming.
Kids need to be taught how to read pre- kindergarten. That should be a national goal that both major political parties should agree to immediately.
Yessir. Sounds like a good platform for you to run on, Muggs!
i think you and reeko need to get a room
If they're not ready to live on their own, maybe they need to attend college locally where they can live at home. Or maybe they need to work a year... or go to a community college!
Disagree 100%. Last thing we need to do is teach kids to read. The problem with this country is educated people. Plus, if they learn how to read, they might learn CRT or read “To Kill a Mockingbird”. The damage would be catastrophic. Show them pictures of Noah’s Ark and teach them how to handle a weapon and they’ll be fine.
I don't question the need for some specialty programs like Achieve, or SIU's MAPP program for disadvantaged potential college students. But a widespread program aimed at the bulk of the student body just raises a boatload of questions about how ready students are to live on their own. I get the temptations are out there -- booze, drugs, sex etc -- but these challenges will be out there when these students leave college. If they're not ready to live on their own, maybe they need to attend college locally where they can live at home. Or maybe they need to work a year... or go to a community college! With one exception, the last person I'd want intervening in my life in college was my resident advisor!