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MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« on: May 03, 2019, 01:57:30 AM »
May 2 Update ... from #2 to out of the top 25 ...

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26647277/unc-big-mover-way-too-early-top-25-2019-20

Also, based on the BE rankings, they are suggesting MU is now #6 in the BE (from #1)

4. Villanova Wildcats
11. Seton Hall Pirates
24. Creighton Bluejays

Next in line:
USC (previous: next in line)
Colorado (previous: unranked)
Xavier (previous: unranked)
Georgetown (previous: next in line)
Marquette (previous: No. 2)
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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2019, 06:53:37 AM »
Oooooof
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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2019, 07:40:09 AM »
Sixth place finish in the Big East.   I'm headed for Arby's, anyone need anything?
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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2019, 07:42:00 AM »
Extra sacks for people here who need them.
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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2019, 08:02:49 AM »
St Mary's projected to be non competitive again at #21.
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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2019, 08:07:14 AM »
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 03, 2019, 08:02:49 AM
St Mary's projected to be non competitive again at #21.

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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2019, 08:24:16 AM »
We'll see if Wojo brings anyone else in before the start of the season. But we need this team to be hungry, playing with a chip on their shoulder.
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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2019, 08:34:38 AM »
Good, this team sucks when the expectations are high
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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2019, 10:18:26 AM »
Quote from: tower912 on May 03, 2019, 07:42:00 AM
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A lot of guys here need their first sack...
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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2019, 10:22:38 AM »
Quote from: Jon on May 03, 2019, 10:18:26 AM
A lot of guys here need their first sack...

first and foremost the pilots of the board.
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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2019, 10:25:56 AM »
Quote from: Marcus92 on May 03, 2019, 08:24:16 AM
We'll see if Wojo brings anyone else in before the start of the season. But we need this team to be hungry, playing with a chip on their shoulder.

Unfortunately, this team has been gutted by the loss of two top 50 starters.

Reading through the comments on how Marquette is better without the Hausers is laughable. Fact is, we are diminished in terms of talent, capablility, and potential.

All of the self-proclaimed experts here are delusional to suggest that we are actually better today than we were a month ago.

The Hausers didn't leave because of touches; they left because of Wojo.

Falling from a Top 5 ranking to out of the poll completely demonstrates the impact of Sam and Joey hitting the bricks. Frankly, the poll is the best evidence yet of just how devastating is their loss.
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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2019, 10:29:17 AM »
Quote from: Jon on May 03, 2019, 10:25:56 AM
Unfortunately, this team has been gutted by the loss of two top 50 starters.

Reading through the comments on how Marquette is better without the Hausers is laughable. Fact is, we are diminished in terms of talent, capablility, and potential.

All of the self-proclaimed experts here are delusional to suggest that we are actually better today than we were a month ago.

The Hausers didn't leave because of touches; they left because of Wojo.

Falling from a Top 5 ranking to out of the poll completely demonstrates the impact of Sam and Joey hitting the bricks. Frankly, the poll is the best evidence yet of just how devastating is their loss.

gutted?  lol.  i think you need a better grasp on the english language.

i don't think many, if any, are suggesting we are better off without the hausers.  maybe 1 poster has.  i think many are suggesting we should still be just as good, or even better, than we were last season.  theres a big difference in the two statements.

the hausers left because of wojo...but the hausers wouldve been back, with wojo, had markus left.  the math doesnt add up here.

preseason rankings...ever important.
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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2019, 10:30:42 AM »
We are a better team with happy Hausers.
We are also a better team without unhappy Hausers.
Unhappy people generally blame others for their unhappiness. Usually it is their fault they are unhappy.
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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2019, 10:35:08 AM »
Yay, we're back under the radar!
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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2019, 10:38:53 AM »
Quote from: WithoutBias on May 03, 2019, 10:29:17 AM


the hausers left because of wojo...but the hausers wouldve been back, with wojo, had markus left.  the math doesnt add up here.

preseason rankings...ever important.

You are missing some pieces to the story. They left because of Wojo. And their reason for leaving was applauded by their teammates.

There was a major mutiny within that locker room. Without Stan at least 3 major contributors were also out the door. And it had nothing to do with Markus.
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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2019, 10:39:58 AM »
Creighton getting a lot of love for a team that missed the tournament and loses their best player. They have one player over 6'7" on their team next year and he's always injured.
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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2019, 10:41:57 AM »
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on May 03, 2019, 10:39:58 AM
Creighton getting a lot of love for a team that missed the tournament and loses their best player. They have one player over 6'7" on their team next year and he's always injured.

A genuine tribute to the efficacy of coaching excellence.
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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2019, 10:45:04 AM »
Quote from: Jon on May 03, 2019, 10:41:57 AM
A genuine tribute to the efficacy of coaching excellence.
McDermott is most definitely not an excellent coach.
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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2019, 10:47:23 AM »
Quote from: Jon on May 03, 2019, 10:25:56 AM
Unfortunately, this team has been gutted by the loss of two top 50 starters.

Is that based on a static look or season average?  Because if you look at their PPG/TRPG/3P% lines the last 7 games, there's clearly a drop-off.

Sam
Season - 14.9 / 7.2 / .402
Last 7 -  13.7 / 8.3 / .388 

Joey
Season - 9.7 / 5.3 / .425
Last 7 -  8.4 / 5.0 / .318

Either way, at best Sam may be borderline top 50 candidate next year, but Joey still has a way to go to earn that distinction.
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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2019, 10:51:52 AM »
Quote from: Jon on May 03, 2019, 10:38:53 AM
You are missing some pieces to the story. They left because of Wojo. And their reason for leaving was applauded by their teammates.

There was a major mutiny within that locker room. Without Stan at least 3 major contributors were also out the door. And it had nothing to do with Markus.

This makes no sense to me. Stan isn't the head of the program. Wojo is. Wojo brought in all the assistant coaches (including Stan). Wojo sets the direction and the tone. Is Stan saying something that Wojo wouldn't? I doubt it. Why would Stan even stay at MU if the issues with Wojo and the players are that severe?
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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2019, 10:53:30 AM »
Quote from: WithoutBias on May 03, 2019, 10:29:17 AM

the hausers left because of wojo...but the hausers wouldve been back, with wojo, had markus left.  the math doesnt add up here.

Yup.  This is key and breaks the logic chain for some that want to 90% to 100% put it on the coach.  To them, he is the all hated and responsible for this, but they would have stayed had Markus gone and apparently “tolerated” his coaching.  Quite humorous
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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2019, 11:07:55 AM »
Quote from: Jon on May 03, 2019, 10:41:57 AM
A genuine tribute to the efficacy of coaching excellence.

Lol.  Well, if anybody didn't already know Keefer has no idea what he's talking about, there is no doubt about it now.
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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2019, 11:10:45 AM »
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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2019, 11:16:12 AM »
Quote from: tower912 on May 03, 2019, 11:10:45 AM
https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Board/104085/Contents/The-Letter-131282124/?Page=3

A different version.   

In direct contradiction to Keefer saying the Hausers were applauded by the rest of the team.  Nobody else has announced a transfer...tough to decide if Keefer or the 247 poster is correct...
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Re: MU Out Of ESPN's Way Too Early Top 25 Update
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2019, 11:17:31 AM »
There is always more than one perspective.
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