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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Clam Crowder on November 21, 2017, 02:44:30 PM
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We have 1-They had alot. That's what happens. That being said we hung in there til the under 4 TO. A little bit of hero ball from Rowsey today and someone else has to take some shots-Especially Sam with 5 today.
Love the idea of Froling coming in, Love the idea of Morrow and Joey with this team next year. Got my blue and gold glasses on today
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We have 1-They had alot. That's what happens. That being said we hung in there til the under 4 TO. A little bit of hero ball from Rowsey today and someone else has to take some shots-Especially Sam with 5 today.
Love the idea of Froling coming in, Love the idea of Morrow and Joey with this team next year. Got my blue and gold glasses on today
Rebounding and defending the post/basket will be much improved next year. Still going to be a fun team to watch this season.
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We have 1-They had alot. That's what happens. That being said we hung in there til the under 4 TO. A little bit of hero ball from Rowsey today and someone else has to take some shots-Especially Sam with 5 today.
Love the idea of Froling coming in, Love the idea of Morrow and Joey with this team next year. Got my blue and gold glasses on today
The offense will have to change next year, to guard oriented. Morrow will be more of a post up player, Joey offensively can put the ball on the floor. The one main difference is they will have depth. They really do not have much right now, frosh become sophomores, plus everybody back but Rowsey. Bailey might come into play
more than people think.
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Another wee bee bedder next year thread. Same song different band, hey?
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Another wee bee bedder next year thread. Same song different band, hey?
Was there anyone last year who said we'd be better this year? I think everyone said similar team, maybe a step back before being better in 2018
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Another wee bee bedder next year thread. Same song different band, hey?
No, your the bed wetter. They do not have the bodies this year to compete with the likes of WSU and Purdue. Still fun team to watch.
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The offense will have to change next year, to guard oriented. Morrow will be more of a post up player, Joey offensively can put the ball on the floor. The one main difference is they will have depth. They really do not have much right now, frosh become sophomores, plus everybody back but Rowsey. Bailey might come into play
more than people think.
Wait, you think the offense is not guard oriented right now? The offense that just had 75% of its scoring come from the 2 smallest guys on the court? The offense whose big men have scored a total of 14 points (guessing) so far this season? What the heck are you talking about?
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I don’t think DC knows the difference between to, too and two.
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I still think we could be good this year but our weakness is quite clear down low against teams like Purdue and Wichita State. It will be clear again against Happ, Spellman, etc....Wojo has addressed weaknesses well with recruiting classes if you don't agree with that IDK what planet you are on.
I love Markus and Rowsey but other guys need shots. We get on Haanif for getting blocked 2 times a game but the guy took what 6 shots all game yesterday? Need a 3rd option, maybe a 4th to show itself otherwise good luck to Markus and Andrew getting open looks with how teams will scout us.
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I still think we could be good this year but our weakness is quite clear down low against teams like Purdue and Wichita State. It will be clear again against Happ, Spellman, etc....Wojo has addressed weaknesses well with recruiting classes if you don't agree with that IDK what planet you are on.
I love Markus and Rowsey but other guys need shots. We get on Haanif for getting blocked 2 times a game but the guy took what 6 shots all game yesterday? Need a 3rd option, maybe a 4th to show itself otherwise good luck to Markus and Andrew getting open looks with how teams will scout us.
3rd option is Sam Hauser. He just can't get three quick fouls. Ruins a lot of what we do on offense, plus he is arguably our best all around player.
Otherwise, I totally agree with you. We will get abused down low, but that should slowly correct over the season and into next year. This year we will be a lot like last year. We can beat a lot of teams if we are hot from 3, but if we aren't it gets ugly fast.
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I don’t think DC knows the difference between to, too and two.
Two I think I know, the others, bad education at Shorewood.
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The offense will have to change next year, to guard oriented.
I feel the exact opposite is true. Next year we will be lopsided toward front court players. We'll have 2 experienced upper classman centers, a red shirt and Morrow a guy who is mostly a low post player. They'll be such a log jam in the front court with Joey and Bailey coming in to add to Cain that I think they may try Sam at the 2 in order to put their best players on the court the highest % of the time. The weakness next year will be guard, particularly point guard. Next year's team really needs a Grad Transfer PG. If anything the staff has over corrected by getting too many front court players. College is still a guards game.
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3rd option is Sam Hauser. He just can't get three quick fouls. Ruins a lot of what we do on offense, plus he is arguably our best all around player.
Otherwise, I totally agree with you. We will get abused down low, but that should slowly correct over the season and into next year. This year we will be a lot like last year. We can beat a lot of teams if we are hot from 3, but if we aren't it gets ugly fast.
The 2 guards need to think the next pass. They think right now every shot is a good shot and that is not the case. Rowsey on the fastbreak is thinking one thing,
I need to score. Pass it. As the year goes, he does not change that attitude, he will have some upset teammates.
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I feel the exact opposite is true. Next year we will be lopsided toward front court players. We'll have 2 experienced upper classman centers, a red shirt and Morrow a guy who is mostly a low post player. They'll be such a log jam in the front court with Joey and Bailey coming in to add to Cain that I think they may try Sam at the 2 in order to put their best players on the court the highest % of the time. The weakness next year will be guard, particularly point guard. Next year's team really needs a Grad Transfer PG. If anything the staff has over corrected by getting too many front court players. College is still a guards game.
Not guard oreinted. Mistake, the real ballers new what I was saying.
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The 2 guards need to think the next pass. They think right now every shot is a good shot and that is not the case. Rowsey on the fastbreak is thinking one thing,
I need to score. Pass it. As the year goes, he does not change that attitude, he will have some upset teammates.
100% agree.
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I feel the exact opposite is true. Next year we will be lopsided toward front court players. We'll have 2 experienced upper classman centers, a red shirt and Morrow a guy who is mostly a low post player. They'll be such a log jam in the front court with Joey and Bailey coming in to add to Cain that I think they may try Sam at the 2 in order to put their best players on the court the highest % of the time. The weakness next year will be guard, particularly point guard. Next year's team really needs a Grad Transfer PG. If anything the staff has over corrected by getting too many front court players. College is still a guards game.
I agree on Sam. As Brew has said, our priority next year should be a grad transfer PG (and next years team will have a lot to offer that guy), and a frosh PG. Frosh can learn a year and step in as a Soph—again with a lot to offer.
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Two I think I know, the others, bad education at Shorewood.
Chuckled at both sides of this dialog. +2!
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Not guard oreinted. Mistake, the real ballers new what I was saying.
. Don’t you mean reel ballers?
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Speaking of Seniors...Duane had 22 & 6 last night.
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Another wee bee bedder next year thread. Same song different band, hey?
so they won't be better next year?
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. Don’t you mean reel ballers?
Guess I have to (correct) go to the dictionary to figure this all out!
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I agree on Sam. As Brew has said, our priority next year should be a grad transfer PG (and next years team will have a lot to offer that guy), and a frosh PG. Frosh can learn a year and step in as a Soph—again with a lot to offer.
What two players are leaving to make that happen? I get that players transfer all the time, but as I look up & down the current roster, I don’t see any obvious transfer candidates (and don’t really want any...I like our current guys), whereas in other years it was much easier to pick out some likely possibilities.
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The offense will have to change next year, to guard oriented. Morrow will be more of a post up player, Joey offensively can put the ball on the floor. The one main difference is they will have depth. They really do not have much right now, frosh become sophomores, plus everybody back but Rowsey. Bailey might come into play
more than people think.
But who are our shooters other than Howard? Right now the Rowsey, Howard combo helps spread the floor. Next year they will just focus on Rowsey.
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I agree on Sam. As Brew has said, our priority next year should be a grad transfer PG (and next years team will have a lot to offer that guy), and a frosh PG. Frosh can learn a year and step in as a Soph—again with a lot to offer.
You understand that all 13 scholarships are taken for '18-'19, yes? Now if one slot opens up I agree that adding a PG is a good idea. Otherwise next year is Markus and Elliott with maybe a little Haani.
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But who are our shooters other than Howard? Right now the Rowsey, Howard combo helps spread the floor. Next year they will just focus on Rowsey.
Next year it will only be Howard, Rowsey is a senior. Hauser, Joey, Bailey wll be the main shooters, possibly Froling. They will have to run a different offense next
year. More down low, more physical, better D. Cain and Elliott will have to improve there outside game. Really need a grad point but not sure who would be leaving.
History shows that somebody will leave, but with only 9 players this year, they will all get time, the following year with 13 might be different. Definitely a dilemma,
Elliott will have to grow to become a point guard or Cheatham. Not a great situation.
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What two players are leaving to make that happen? I get that players transfer all the time, but as I look up & down the current roster, I don’t see any obvious transfer candidates (and don’t really want any...I like our current guys), whereas in other years it was much easier to pick out some likely possibilities.
At this point in the season Idk, but I am certain that there will be one, if not two. IMO, Wojo is a PG away from having a team that he constructed which could be VERY good. If Wojo can get a Pg that he wants, he will do it.
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You understand that all 13 scholarships are taken for '18-'19, yes? Now if one slot opens up I agree that adding a PG is a good idea. Otherwise next year is Markus and Elliott with maybe a little Haani.
Of course I understand that. Did/Do we have room for QG or Ramey? And I think that our PG next year will not be a combination of MH, GE, and HC. Wojo has too much on the line. Things shake out, and a grad transfer PG is top priority.
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Of course I understand that. Did/Do we have room for QG or Ramey? And I think that our PG next year will not be a combination of MH, GE, and HC. Wojo has too much on the line. Things shake out, and a grad transfer PG is top priority.
Respectfully, Wojo is NOT cutting someone to bring in a grad transfer PG. If someone leaves of their own volition, that's a different thing. The reason he was prepared to do that for Grimes was because that particular player was a 'program changer'.
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Respectfully, Wojo is NOT cutting someone to bring in a grad transfer PG. If someone leaves of their own volition, that's a different thing. The reason he was prepared to do that for Grimes was because that particular player was a 'program changer'.
Sorry, maybe I wasn’t clear. I’m not saying Wojo is ‘cutting’ anyone. Someone maybe ‘leaving’ the program.
Someone maybe ‘looking’ for a new opportunity.
Someone may think it’s a good idea to ‘test the waters’.
So if Wojo was getting a program changer, would it not be true that someone was getting cut?
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Sorry, maybe I wasn’t clear. I’m not saying Wojo is ‘cutting’ anyone. Someone maybe ‘leaving’ the program.
Someone maybe ‘looking’ for a new opportunity.
Someone may think it’s a good idea to ‘test the waters’.
So if Wojo was getting a program changer, would it not be true that someone was getting cut?
Agreed. I'd personally be surprised if ALL 13 show up next summer and we agree that the first priority would be a PG.
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Have a good one Glow—appreciate what you bring to the table.
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Rowsey has grown from being "the little guy who can shoot" to "the little guy who can shoot and play some emergency PG" to the clear leader of this team, they guy who wants the ball in any situation, and the guy who's ready to be a stud whenever necessary.
That's why I like seniors.