Kostas Antetokounmpo

[wadesworld]

Well that kid is entitled to his opinion too . I appreciate him offering it.

The fact is he is 6-10 and has 7 1.75 wingspan . Matt Heldt is 6-8/9 ish  and if he were normal height he would be an average player also.

If Grandma had balls she would be Grandpa.

But Matt Heldt is 6'10" and plays like he's 6'10", which makes him more than an average player.  Kostas is 6'10" and plays like he's 6'1", which makes him below an average player.

[Dawson Rental]

Well that kid is entitled to his opinion too . I appreciate him offering it.

The fact is he is 6-10 and has 7 1.75 wingspan . Matt Heldt is 6-8/9 ish  and if he were normal height he would be an average player also.

If Grandma had balls she would be Grandpa.

And if Kostas had basketball skills, he'd be a basketball player.

[4everwarriors]

Wow, forgot about Mbao. Looked up what he did at Marshall. It was... uh... not great:

2013-14 (SENIOR):Played in 22 of 33 games ... Made 1 start on the year on senior night ... In his final season at Marshall, the senior center finished the year averaging 0.6 points per game and 1.5 rebounds per game ... On Dec. 17 versus Alice Lloyd he recorded a career high in rebounds with 14 ... Statistically, led the team with the highest field goal percentage at 77.8 percent.

This means he had 19 rebounds total in da utter 21 games, ai na?

[Herman Cain]

But Matt Heldt is 6'10" and plays like he's 6'10", which makes him more than an average player.  Kostas is 6'10" and plays like he's 6'1", which makes him below an average player.

I think if someone is 6-10 with the skills of a 6-1 guard, they are a pretty formidable player that presents a lot of match up difficulties. If someone is 6-10 and is blocking shot after shot he is playing like a 6-10 player. Kostas presents the whole package. If we were willing to take a flyer on Heldt why would we not be willing to bring in Kostas? I like Heldt a lot and hope he has the ability to give us 12-15 good minutes this year. It will be important to our success if he does.

[wadesworld]

I think if someone is 6-10 with the skills of a 6-1 guard, they are a pretty formidable player that presents a lot of match up difficulties. If someone is 6-10 and is blocking shot after shot he is playing like a 6-10 player. Kostas presents the whole package. If we were willing to take a flyer on Heldt why would we not be willing to bring in Kostas? I like Heldt a lot and hope he has the ability to give us 12-15 good minutes this year. It will be important to our success if he does.

No.  He plays like he's 6'1".  If we want to give his 6'1" guard skillset an age it would be about a 7th grader.  The guy shot 20% from 3...from the high school 3 point line...against 6'2" defenders...as a 6'10" kid.  He shot below 60% from the free throw line...as a wing...

The kid is NOT good at basketball.  It's not hard to understand this.  Talking about how we need size is pointless in the discussion with Kostas, because he doesn't play with any size whatsoever.

Kostas presents an empty package.  He doesn't have strength to bang down low, he doesn't have skill to play on the perimeter.  Maybe he should consider high jump like Walter.  He certainly would show more potential for a D1 scholarship in that sport than in basketball.

[Herman Cain]

No.  He plays like he's 6'1".  If we want to give his 6'1" guard skillset an age it would be about a 7th grader.  The guy shot 20% from 3...from the high school 3 point line...against 6'2" defenders...as a 6'10" kid.  He shot below 60% from the free throw line...as a wing...

The kid is NOT good at basketball.  It's not hard to understand this.  Talking about how we need size is pointless in the discussion with Kostas, because he doesn't play with any size whatsoever.

Kostas presents an empty package.  He doesn't have strength to bang down low, he doesn't have skill to play on the perimeter.  Maybe he should consider high jump like Walter.  He certainly would show more potential for a D1 scholarship in that sport than in basketball.

You have presented the bear case extremely well. I represent the bull case. Obviously if he were a consensus pick he would be gone by now. There is risk involved but I believe there to be considerable upside reward. I see the risk reward as very attractive. Throw in the ancillary benefits of the close knit family being supportive it becomes a no brainer to me.  We are talking our 13th  spot  on a team with plenty of capable players who are going to be scrambling for minutes as it is already.

[Dawson Rental]

You have presented the bear case extremely well. I represent the bull case. Obviously if he were a consensus pick he would be gone by now. There is risk involved but I believe there to be considerable upside reward. I see the risk reward as very attractive. Throw in the ancillary benefits of the close knit family being supportive it becomes a no brainer to me.  We are talking our 13th  spot  on a team with plenty of capable players who are going to be scrambling for minutes as it is already.

He's a high school senior.  The spring signing period is now over.  Even the speculative HS kids are gone by now.

[brandx]

And if Kostas had basketball skills, he'd be a basketball player.

I've seen him several times. He's tall and athletic, but I always wondered when he was going to do something to make me think he was a player.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I think it is a stretch to say he is not good at basketball.  This tape of his senior season just came out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVI3XotSzWI&feature=youtu.be

Yes it is a highlight reel and should be taken with a grain of salt as all highlight reels should be. However, there are many different basketball skills being demonstrated. I am sorry but the notion he cannot play is just not supportable.

I didn't say he couldn't play. I said he's not very good.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I'm sorry.  This board is becoming silly.  Show me anything that suggests Mboa was even a Top 1000 recruit.  The kid had never played basketball.

Actually he was ranked in the top 300 by 247 composite IIRC

[martyconlonontherun]

Fun fact ...

If Antetokounmpo married NBC's veteran Olympic/baseball announcer, he'd be Kostas Costas.

How is that a fact? Why would he be the woman in that relationship?

[GB Warrior]

How is that a fact? Why would he be the woman in that relationship?

Yeah, that's pretty insulting to women. He wouldn't make UConn

Edit -this should not be teal.

[Jay Bee]

How is that a fact? Why would he be the woman in that relationship?

Guess you haven't seen him on a bball court, hey?

[MU82]

How is that a fact? Why would he be the woman in that relationship?

I wouldn't have gotten the wild wails of laughter throughout Scoopdom had my punchline been ... Bob Antetokounmpo.

[Herman Cain]

Breaking News Alert.

The Purdue message board says Marquette has come calling for Kostas. They are getting nervous that they might lose him.

https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/threads/kostas.94236/page-4

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Breaking News Alert.

The Purdue message board says Marquette has come calling for Kostas. They are getting nervous that they might lose him.

https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/threads/kostas.94236/page-4

My guess is that the Purdue guy probaly looked at kostas' 247 page and saw we were mentioned

[Wojo'sMojo]

Breaking News Alert.

The Purdue message board says Marquette has come calling for Kostas. They are getting nervous that they might lose him.

https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/threads/kostas.94236/page-4

I really hope we pursue him now. Give him a redshirt his freshman year and see if he can gain weight and improve...if he doesn't, get rid of him and keep recruiting like he won't be part of the future anyways...it's all upside for MU. I really like his potential.

[WarriorPride68]

I really hope we pursue him now. Give him a redshirt his freshman year and see if he can gain weight and improve...if he doesn't, get rid of him and keep recruiting

Woj likes your thinking

[THRILLHO]

I really hope we pursue him now. Give him a redshirt his freshman year and see if he can gain weight and improve... show commitment to the program... if he doesn't, get rid of him help him relocate to a program more appropriate to his commitment level and keep recruiting like he won't be part of the future anyways...it's all upside for MU. I really like his potential.

FIFY

[jesmu84]

You have presented the bear case extremely well. I represent the bull case. Obviously if he were a consensus pick he would be gone by now. There is risk involved but I believe there to be considerable upside reward. I see the risk reward as very attractive. Throw in the ancillary benefits of the close knit family being supportive it becomes a no brainer to me.  We are talking our 13th  spot  on a team with plenty of capable players who are going to be scrambling for minutes as it is already.

Clearly you're a big kostas fan. And you clearly believe in your ability to spot top talent. So if kostas never demonstrates this considerable upside at a high D1 level, will you leave this board?

[forgetful]

If we are throwing out names that may develop after a year or two, how about:

Karim Ezzedine; 6'9" 216 stretch 4 with handles. 

[BossplayaOtto]

Clearly you're a big kostas fan. And you clearly believe in your ability to spot top talent. So if kostas never demonstrates this considerable upside at a high D1 level, will you leave this board?

I support this analysis.

[vacinator]

I predict Kostas develops at least as good as the open roster spots MU has carried the last couple of years and the open roster spot they are positioned to carry this year. 

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I predict Kostas develops at least as good as the open roster spots MU has carried the last couple of years and the open roster spot they are positioned to carry this year.

This.

[LAMUfan]

Breaking News Alert.

The Purdue message board says Marquette has come calling for Kostas. They are getting nervous that they might lose him.

https://purdue.forums.rivals.com/threads/kostas.94236/page-4

Whenever I look at other boards I really appreciate scoop, the site itself and the posters are top notch (really, no teal), the Purdue board is summed up in that peeing gif which is currently on their site