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Author Topic: Buzz  (Read 27882 times)

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Re: Buzz
« Reply #175 on: August 23, 2019, 10:12:51 AM »
I also remember Wes thanking Buzz for “unleashing him”. I don’t remember if it was senior night or the awards banquet but he definitely said that.  He didn’t mention Crean directly but it was pretty clearly directed at him.

I don't doubt Wes had nice things to say about his coach on Senior Day. That would be, you know, absolutely normal.
I very much doubt whatever he said was a swipe at his previous coach, no matter how much some here wish it to be because it fits their 2019 narrative.

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« Reply #176 on: August 23, 2019, 10:16:26 AM »
Great speeches in Marquette Senior Day History:

In 1995 Tony Miller went out of his way to thank University of Tennessee head coach, Kevin O'Neill. 

In 2009 Wesley Matthews went out of his way thank Buzz for "unleashing" him.

Do the math.
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Re: Buzz
« Reply #177 on: August 23, 2019, 10:19:44 AM »
I don't doubt Wes had nice things to say about his coach on Senior Day. That would be, you know, absolutely normal.
I very much doubt whatever he said was a swipe at his previous coach, no matter how much some here wish it to be because it fits their 2019 narrative.

I prefer Crean over Buzz so this would hurt my narrative if anything.

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« Reply #178 on: August 23, 2019, 10:21:33 AM »
Great speeches in Marquette Senior Day History:

In 1995 Tony Miller went out of his way to thank University of Tennessee head coach, Kevin O'Neill. 

In 2009 Wesley Matthews went out of his way thank Buzz for "unleashing" him.

Do the math.


1995+2009 = 4004
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Re: Buzz
« Reply #180 on: August 23, 2019, 10:22:43 AM »
I’m shocked a college athlete might not love a coach that left the school the year before his senior year.
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Re: Buzz
« Reply #181 on: August 23, 2019, 10:42:59 AM »
Guess I better change my name to unleashwes

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« Reply #182 on: August 23, 2019, 10:51:37 AM »
The Taylors and Hurley were opportunistic...as soon as they saw an opening they pounced on it.  We could have hired Coach K and they would have pushed to get to Kansas. 

How did Buzz handle losing a major recruit, he went to 5 straight NCAAs.

Meanwhile TC was ducking plants, needlessly throwing kids off his team to buy himself time and sadly losing in the S16 to deprive us of the greatest E8 game of all time.

it was actually the secretary who ducked the plant and he was definitely not "needlessly" throwing kids off the trainwreck of the team that he inherited from Sampson. Meanwhile, Buzz was succeeding with a team and program he inherited from Crean.
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« Reply #183 on: August 23, 2019, 10:57:24 AM »
Yeah, what Crean did at IU was pretty much what most coaches do.  Was Scott Christopherson "needlessly" thrown off by Buzz?  Todd Mayo by Wojo?
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« Reply #184 on: August 23, 2019, 11:30:45 AM »
I’m shocked a college athlete might not love a coach that left the school the year before his senior year.

If the player is butt hurt over his coach leaving you would have a point.

Wesley was GRATEFUL that his coach left, and grateful that the new guy allowed him to be an integral part of the offense.

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« Reply #185 on: August 23, 2019, 11:36:56 AM »
I prefer Crean over Buzz so this would hurt my narrative if anything.

I was at the game. It was clear to Crean fans and non fans around me that Wes took a swipe at TC. People who refuse to connect the most obvious of dots are selecting a narrative they prefer rather than dealing with the facts.

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« Reply #186 on: August 23, 2019, 11:42:58 AM »
If the player is butt hurt over his coach leaving you would have a point.

Wesley was GRATEFUL that his coach left, and grateful that the new guy allowed him to be an integral part of the offense.

I'm glad you had that discussion with Wes to clear that up.  I was wondering how the guy he was so GRATEFUL to see go was able to convince him 1) to come play for him at Marquette and 2) to stick around and play for him for 3 seasons.  I guess my question still isn't answered as he was so GRATEFUL, but at least I know he was GRATEFUL.
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« Reply #187 on: August 23, 2019, 11:49:28 AM »
I'm glad you had that discussion with Wes to clear that up.  I was wondering how the guy he was so GRATEFUL to see go was able to convince him 1) to come play for him at Marquette and 2) to stick around and play for him for 3 seasons.  I guess my question still isn't answered as he was so GRATEFUL, but at least I know he was GRATEFUL.

Either you didn't hear Wes's senior day speech or you didn't understand it.

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« Reply #188 on: August 23, 2019, 11:54:45 AM »
Either you didn't hear Wes's senior day speech or you didn't understand it.

As I said, I'm shocked a college athlete would take a swipe at a coach that up and left his team going into his senior year.

If he hated Crean that much, he'd have been making a senior night speech at anywhere but Marquette.
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« Reply #189 on: August 23, 2019, 12:27:41 PM »
As I said, I'm shocked a college athlete would take a swipe at a coach that up and left his team going into his senior year.

If he hated Crean that much, he'd have been making a senior night speech at anywhere but Marquette.

He didn't take a swipe at him for leaving, he basically thanked him for leaving.

I never said he hated Crean, but he did feel he was under utilized in his offense. Buzz agreed, retooled things and took shots away from a bad shooter and gave them to a good one. Dom understood, Wes and Marquette thrived.

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« Reply #190 on: August 23, 2019, 12:43:24 PM »
Thanks, David Duke.


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Re: Buzz
« Reply #191 on: August 23, 2019, 12:46:44 PM »
Lots of triggered folks in here

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Re: Buzz
« Reply #192 on: August 23, 2019, 01:10:41 PM »
Well this is getting locked now.

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Re: Buzz
« Reply #193 on: August 23, 2019, 01:41:51 PM »
Well this is getting locked now.

Damn.  Was really hoping this would be the first thread to move the other way.

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« Reply #194 on: August 23, 2019, 01:59:19 PM »
Damn.  Was really hoping this would be the first thread to move the other way.

Optimistic.

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« Reply #195 on: August 23, 2019, 02:07:50 PM »
it was actually the secretary who ducked the plant and he was definitely not "needlessly" throwing kids off the trainwreck of the team that he inherited from Sampson. Meanwhile, Buzz was succeeding with a team and program he inherited from Crean.

Like Jordan Crawford? Or Armon Bassett? Or DeAndre Thomas?  Seemed like TC was intent to burn Indiana to the ground rather than go in a win asap.
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« Reply #196 on: August 23, 2019, 03:02:00 PM »
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Re: Buzz
« Reply #197 on: August 23, 2019, 03:38:25 PM »
Damn.  Was really hoping this would be the first thread to move the other way.

Wait a minute -- one way or another?


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« Reply #198 on: August 23, 2019, 04:01:45 PM »
Like Jordan Crawford? Or Armon Bassett? Or DeAndre Thomas?  Seemed like TC was intent to burn Indiana to the ground rather than go in a win asap.

sometimes guys earn their walking papers.
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Re: Buzz
« Reply #199 on: August 23, 2019, 04:42:12 PM »
sometimes guys earn their walking papers.

TC did at Indiana, a'ina?

 

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