Bubble Watch 2018

[PGsHeroes32]

Really unfortunate ponds is hurt.  A sju win at providence would have been really nice

Wrong.

We need a Butler win over SHU regardless to leave the 7/10 game.

Give me the 6 vs Providence rather then the 4 vs Butler any day.

Unless I’m mistaken on how the seeding play out.

[Floorslapper]

Unfortunately Texas, CUSE won, and to a lesser extent Providence.  Think it bodes well if MU can face Providence in Big East tourney.  Think whoever would win that game would get the Big East's likely 6th and final bid.

[Fred Garvin]

Alabama and Baylor both lost

[goldeneagle91114]

So after the win, are we still outside looking in? If so, what will it take to get us in (besides winning the big east tournament)?

[willie warrior]

So after the win, are we still outside looking in? If so, what will it take to get us in (besides winning the big east tournament)?

At least 2 wins in BEast tourney.

[T.V. Diener 34]

Washington losing to Oregon which helps us

[T.V. Diener 34]

I feel that if Butler beats SHU then we only need to beat Providence but if SHU wins and we face DePaul Wednesday, we may need to beat them and Nova to guarantee a bid.

[PGsHeroes32]

I feel that if Butler beats SHU then we only need to beat Providence but if SHU wins and we face DePaul Wednesday, we may need to beat them and Nova to guarantee a bid.

I agree.

[PGsHeroes32]

Virginia holds off ND

A win by ND there woulda really brought them back into the convo with Colston being back

[MU82]

Virginia holds off ND

A win by ND there woulda really brought them back into the convo with Colston being back

Plus, any ND loss is a good loss!

Great weekend, fo sho: ND loses ... F%cky eliminated ... Warriors get an important, entertaining win.

[peterpan]

Playing DePaul would be a killer. No benefit to winning (probably even hurts the SOS) and would end us if they beat MU again.

Huge fan of the bulldogs tonight.

[PGsHeroes32]

Playing DePaul would be a killer. No benefit to winning (probably even hurts the SOS) and would end us if they beat MU again.

Huge fan of the bulldogs tonight.

There’s not much hope regardless of who we lose to first game.

But you’re right. Playing DePaul means we still gotta beat Nova most likely to get in.

Where as beating Providence alone should be good(it better be in my opinion).

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Results so far today:

Bad
Texas beats West Virginia
Providence beats St. John's (though it could be good from a BET seeding stand point)
Syracuse beats Clemson

Good
Marquette beats Creighton
LSU beats Miss State
TAMU beats Alabama
Kansas State beats Baylor (kind of a win/win lose/lose but this is the better of the two per TRank)
VCU beats Fordham (RPI bump)
Loyola beats Bradley (eliminates potential bracketbuster)
Virginia beats Notre Dame
Oregon beats Washington

Mostly good results so far. Especially the MU win. Purdue is also up 12 in the second half on Penn State.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

One more good result I missed, Arizona State lost to Stanford. I think they might be the team that gets left out that everyone assumes is in.

[GB Warrior]

One more good result I missed, Arizona State lost to Stanford. I think they might be the team that gets left out that everyone assumes is in.

I can't think of a bigger in season slide than what ASU went through. Anyone else that's worth Stan poaching?

[PGsHeroes32]

One more good result I missed, Arizona State lost to Stanford. I think they might be the team that gets left out that everyone assumes is in.

Them and Oklahoma should be out but will get in

Kinda sad

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Purdue stepping on Penn State's throat. Up 14 with a minute left. I think that should end Penn State's hopes. Also means the B1G won't be producing a bid thief.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Them and Oklahoma should be out but will get in

Kinda sad

Eh, I know Oklahoma has collapsed...but they have 6 Q1 wins, 0 Q3/Q4 losses, a top 40 RPI and top 25 SOS. They earned their bid.

Arizona State on the other hand has only 3 Q1 wins (all from January 7th or earlier), a Q3 loss, an RPI outside the top 50 and an SOS of 70.

[PGsHeroes32]

Eh, I know Oklahoma has collapsed...but they have 6 Q1 wins, 0 Q3/Q4 losses, a top 40 RPI and top 25 SOS. They earned their bid.

Arizona State on the other hand has only 3 Q1 wins (all from January 7th or earlier), a Q3 loss, an RPI outside the top 50 and an SOS of 70.

This is where eye test comes into play tho.

Trey young took teams by storm early on. But eventually(it took a while) they realized literally all you gotta do is game plan for him and he will chuck them out of the game

The rest of that team roster probably finishes 9-9 in the MVC.

But you’re right it’s those damn computer numbers that also make them a quality win for a team like Baylor.

Really hurts us.

[jsglow]

Georgia up 7 on Tennessee. Good.

[dgies9156]

... we may need to beat them and Nova to guarantee a bid.

You really think we can beat Villanova in the Big East tournament with money on the line?

I like the way we played today -- but I have my serious doubts on this one.;

I hope I eat these words, but....

[PGsHeroes32]

You really think we can beat Villanova in the Big East tournament with money on the line?

I like the way we played today -- but I have my serious doubts on this one.;

I hope I eat these words, but....

I will say.

I’m pretty sure over the last many years the only times we’ve had decent MSG showings are the years were the couple years we needed a win or two to help the tourney hopes(2010 and 2011).

So maybe this year??

[bilsu]

I am not sure, which is the better result.
Seton Hall wins we remain in 7th place, but our two victories over Seton Hall are more impressive. We would have to beat DePaul, but if we cannot beat them we do not deserve to be in NCAA tournament. Beating DePaul in a convincing fashion could indicate that the loss to them was just a fluke.
I think we can beat Villanova, but maybe we do not have to, if we can look good playing them in a close game.
Seton Hall loses ,then we will have to beat Providence. Providence and MU both can be inconsistent teams, so either team could win this one. I agree the winner is in and the loser is out.

[PGsHeroes32]

I am not sure, which is the better result.
Seton Hall wins we remain in 7th place, but our two victories over Seton Hall are more impressive. We would have to beat DePaul, but if we cannot beat them we do not deserve to be in NCAA tournament. Beating DePaul in a convincing fashion could indicate that the loss to them was just a fluke.
I think we can beat Villanova, but maybe we do not have to, if we can look good playing them in a close game.
Seton Hall loses ,then we will have to beat Providence. Providence and MU both can be inconsistent teams, so either team could win this one. I agree the winner is in and the loser is out.

I prefer playing Providence.

We gotta get 1 more at least semi noteworthy win.

Win that and it will be really hard to make the team that went 6-1 against SHU, Creighton and Providence the BE team that’s left out.

Beating DePaul does nothing but add a win

[MU82]

I can't think of a bigger in season slide than what ASU went through.

They were 12-0, ranked #3 in the nation and had 3/4s of ScoopLand waxing poetic about how Hurley was the greatest coach in the history of mankind.

As to the last point, he's still probably a very good coach, but if an MU coach had started 12-0 and then the Warriors fell all the way down to bubble territory, we'd never hear the end of it.

As for similar collapses, I remember a Clemson team a few years ago getting to 11-0 or something and then I think missing the tournament. Maybe. My memory ain't what it used to be.