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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1800 on: March 10, 2018, 10:52:27 PM »
Here is the NIT Bracket Matrix.  1 seed versus Wagner.

http://bracketmatrix.com/nit
The NIT will be pretty challenging if these bracketmatrix teams  are the ones that end up in the field.
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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1801 on: March 10, 2018, 10:58:43 PM »
I don't think I realized how weak USC's resume is until now. On paper they have 4 Q1 wins, which is decent for a bubble team. But then I looked at those 4 Q1 wins:

34 Middle Tennessee State (on neutral court)
42 New Mexico State (on neutral court)
@57 Utah
@72 Oregon

If the committee is truly about who you beat then USC might need to beat Zona tonight to earn their bid. I would argue that our 4th best win (Hall at home) is better than their best win. Throw in a sub 200 loss to Princeton at home and I don't see why they should be included without the autobid.

I was just thinking the same. They would literally have zero wins over tourney teams unless MTSU gets in. The PAC-12 should be a 1-bid league.
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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1802 on: March 10, 2018, 11:00:48 PM »
I was just thinking the same. They would literally have zero wins over tourney teams unless MTSU gets in. The PAC-12 should be a 1-bid league.

Yep. But I bet 2 of USC, UCLA and AZ State get in.
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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1803 on: March 10, 2018, 11:01:23 PM »
I was just thinking the same. They would literally have zero wins over tourney teams unless MTSU gets in. The PAC-12 should be a 1-bid league.

Looking like it’s gonna be in the committees hands

Zona got on a second half roll
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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1804 on: March 11, 2018, 09:42:04 AM »
The way this USA TODAY article I just read, was written, it sounds like they know something that no one else knows. It honestly sounds like they have an insider in the actual committee.

"Providence, meanwhile, shot up to a No. 9 seed after entering the league tournament as a projected No. 12 — in a play-in game. Seton Hall, a projected No. 7 seed, and Butler, another No. 9 seed, are in the safety zone as well.

On the unsafe area of the bubble, it’s the Big East that’s benefiting from ‘Nova and Xavier’s prowess — as well as the Friars’ late surge in the conference tourney. Fringe teams Marquette and Creighton are both two of the last four teams in the projected field — as No. 11 seeds slated to play in Dayton for play-in competition. They’re set to beat out ACC bubble teams Louisville, Notre Dame and Syracuse."

Check out this article from USA TODAY:

NCAA tournament bracketology: Big East set to win top seeds, bubble battles on Selection Sunday

https://usat.ly/2nTpuku

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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1805 on: March 11, 2018, 09:46:48 AM »
The way this USA TODAY article I just read, was written, it sounds like they know something that no one else knows. It honestly sounds like they have an insider in the actual committee.

"Providence, meanwhile, shot up to a No. 9 seed after entering the league tournament as a projected No. 12 — in a play-in game. Seton Hall, a projected No. 7 seed, and Butler, another No. 9 seed, are in the safety zone as well.

On the unsafe area of the bubble, it’s the Big East that’s benefiting from ‘Nova and Xavier’s prowess — as well as the Friars’ late surge in the conference tourney. Fringe teams Marquette and Creighton are both two of the last four teams in the projected field — as No. 11 seeds slated to play in Dayton for play-in competition. They’re set to beat out ACC bubble teams Louisville, Notre Dame and Syracuse."

Check out this article from USA TODAY:

NCAA tournament bracketology: Big East set to win top seeds, bubble battles on Selection Sunday

https://usat.ly/2nTpuku

“As a whole, the big east “is” sending 7 teams to the tournament.”

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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1806 on: March 11, 2018, 09:49:24 AM »
“As a whole, the big east “is” sending 7 teams to the tournament.”

Exactly. And this isn't a "bracketology" article.

This is an article written about the strength of the big east and the Nova/PC game.

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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1807 on: March 11, 2018, 09:49:40 AM »
The way this USA TODAY article I just read, was written, it sounds like they know something that no one else knows. It honestly sounds like they have an insider in the actual committee.

"Providence, meanwhile, shot up to a No. 9 seed after entering the league tournament as a projected No. 12 — in a play-in game. Seton Hall, a projected No. 7 seed, and Butler, another No. 9 seed, are in the safety zone as well.

On the unsafe area of the bubble, it’s the Big East that’s benefiting from ‘Nova and Xavier’s prowess — as well as the Friars’ late surge in the conference tourney. Fringe teams Marquette and Creighton are both two of the last four teams in the projected field — as No. 11 seeds slated to play in Dayton for play-in competition. They’re set to beat out ACC bubble teams Louisville, Notre Dame and Syracuse."

Check out this article from USA TODAY:

NCAA tournament bracketology: Big East set to win top seeds, bubble battles on Selection Sunday

https://usat.ly/2nTpuku
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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1808 on: March 11, 2018, 09:53:58 AM »
The way this USA TODAY article I just read, was written, it sounds like they know something that no one else knows. It honestly sounds like they have an insider in the actual committee.

"Providence, meanwhile, shot up to a No. 9 seed after entering the league tournament as a projected No. 12 — in a play-in game. Seton Hall, a projected No. 7 seed, and Butler, another No. 9 seed, are in the safety zone as well.

On the unsafe area of the bubble, it’s the Big East that’s benefiting from ‘Nova and Xavier’s prowess — as well as the Friars’ late surge in the conference tourney. Fringe teams Marquette and Creighton are both two of the last four teams in the projected field — as No. 11 seeds slated to play in Dayton for play-in competition. They’re set to beat out ACC bubble teams Louisville, Notre Dame and Syracuse."

Check out this article from USA TODAY:

NCAA tournament bracketology: Big East set to win top seeds, bubble battles on Selection Sunday

https://usat.ly/2nTpuku

In reading the article, that sounds more like insider 'scoop' than idle speculation.  Look, it wouldn't be beyond reasonable for the committee to acknowledge that two of the very best teams are in the BEast and that all who played them 4-5 times will be rewarded.  There are no off nights in this league.  I guess we'll find out tonight.

On the flip side, if we are the sole BEast team in the NIT, I damn well want to win it.  Assuming we play up to our potential, we absolutely can.  And chick and I will endeavor to get up to MKE for the games.

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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1809 on: March 11, 2018, 09:59:46 AM »
“As a whole, the big east “is” sending 7 teams to the tournament.”
I've been very guardedly optimistic since late Wednesday night, we deserve to be in based on the committees criteria. I'm hoping they do the right thing and leave the USC's and ASU's out instead of trying to protect conference embarrassment.
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« Reply #1810 on: March 11, 2018, 10:01:13 AM »
I have read several statements similar to this one on scoop the last few days. MU is a bad defensive team. That’s a fact. Bad defensive teams do not make deep tournament runs. IMO, we will not be able to win 5 games in a row by outscoring each opponent.

I would love to see it, and I will be at each Milwaukee game, but don’t see it happening.

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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1811 on: March 11, 2018, 10:03:22 AM »
Yeah I've been very optimistic (and surprisingly, for all the flack lately I would say Guru has been extremely optimistic as well, so shoutout to him), I think we maybe slide into this tourney. Which would be great.

Having said that, I'm optimistic in everything in life, and I still have never won the lottery or been very lucky.... but we got this. Maybe. I hope!

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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1812 on: March 11, 2018, 10:09:06 AM »
Yeah I've been very optimistic (and surprisingly, for all the flack lately I would say Guru has been extremely optimistic as well, so shoutout to him), I think we maybe slide into this tourney. Which would be great.

Having said that, I'm optimistic in everything in life, and I still have never won the lottery or been very lucky.... but we got this. Maybe. I hope!
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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1813 on: March 11, 2018, 10:15:00 AM »
Shoutout to Guru, you're a nut but you're our nut.
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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1814 on: March 11, 2018, 10:16:09 AM »
I don’t get the anti-Big East bias.  If Butler, Providence, or Hall we’re in the ACC they’d have better records due to the weak bottom of the league and unbalanced schedule.  And they’d be getting higher seeds than 9.  The BE this year was very competitive with even the bottom 3 teams playing very good ball in the last half of the season.  In small conferences, DePaul and St. John’s would have run away with the league titles.  BE definitely deserves 7 teams

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« Reply #1815 on: March 11, 2018, 10:20:26 AM »
ESPN just listed the last seven teams on the bubble - St. Mary's, Notre Dame, Arizona State, Oklahoma State, Louisville, Middle Tennessee State and Oklahoma.  Marquette not even listed. 

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« Reply #1816 on: March 11, 2018, 10:21:21 AM »
I don’t get the anti-Big East bias.  If Butler, Providence, or Hall we’re in the ACC they’d have better records due to the weak bottom of the league and unbalanced schedule.  And they’d be getting higher seeds than 9.  The BE this year was very competitive with even the bottom 3 teams playing very good ball in the last half of the season.  In small conferences, DePaul and St. John’s would have run away with the league titles.  BE definitely deserves 7 teams
I think that's important too, even our bottom feeders aren't terrible, saw it early in conference play that there were no days off.
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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1817 on: March 11, 2018, 10:21:24 AM »
I don’t get the anti-Big East bias.  If Butler, Providence, or Hall we’re in the ACC they’d have better records due to the weak bottom of the league and unbalanced schedule.  And they’d be getting higher seeds than 9.  The BE this year was very competitive with even the bottom 3 teams playing very good ball in the last half of the season.  In small conferences, DePaul and St. John’s would have run away with the league titles.  BE definitely deserves 7 teams

And that's why people on scoop and even people that DONT follow MU on twitter (search for their tweets by using Marquette and not MUBB) have been saying they wouldn't be surprised if MU was in and even not in the "first four" games.

Forgot the tweet but someone that is not a MU fan basically said "9-9, and 4 of those losses are to a #1 seed, and ESPN is pushing ND and Louisville for the last spots?"

(This tweet was in a string about ESPN's bias towards conferences on their channel)

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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1818 on: March 11, 2018, 10:23:15 AM »
I have read several statements similar to this one on scoop the last few days. MU is a bad defensive team. That’s a fact. Bad defensive teams do not make deep tournament runs. IMO, we will not be able to win 5 games in a row by outscoring each opponent.

I would love to see it, and I will be at each Milwaukee game, but don’t see it happening.
I agree. I wouldn’t give us very good odds of winning the NIT and I’m not sure we’d even make a deep run.

That being said, let’s hope this this is a moot point by the end of the day!
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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1819 on: March 11, 2018, 10:25:50 AM »
Marquette not even listed as first 4 out or last 4 in on espn right now.

What does this mean? We're secured or we're so far out?

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« Reply #1820 on: March 11, 2018, 10:27:44 AM »
Marquette not even listed as first 4 out or last 4 in on espn right now.

What does this mean? We're secured or we're so far out?


We are only on 9 of 107 brackets on this morning's bracket matrix.  I would be extremely surprised if we are in.

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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1821 on: March 11, 2018, 10:29:27 AM »
Marquette not even listed as first 4 out or last 4 in on espn right now.

What does this mean? We're secured or we're so far out?

That means according to ESPN(Lunardi) they don't even think MU is close to being in.
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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1822 on: March 11, 2018, 10:31:28 AM »
ESPN just listed the last seven teams on the bubble - St. Mary's, Notre Dame, Arizona State, Oklahoma State, Louisville, Middle Tennessee State and Oklahoma.  Marquette not even listed.

SO YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE IN??????

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« Reply #1823 on: March 11, 2018, 10:34:30 AM »
ESPN just listed the last seven teams on the bubble - St. Mary's, Notre Dame, Arizona State, Oklahoma State, Louisville, Middle Tennessee State and Oklahoma.  Marquette not even listed.

If you go by Lunardi, who is pretty good, that reflects a possible #2 seed in the NIT. 

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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1824 on: March 11, 2018, 10:45:06 AM »
If you go by Lunardi, who is pretty good, that reflects a possible #2 seed in the NIT.

Lunardi is actually pretty bad

That said, we are gonna be out

Don’t agree with it tho
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