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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1650 on: March 09, 2018, 08:46:11 PM »
Damn, Nevada down 23...and it's not halftime yet.
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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1651 on: March 09, 2018, 08:49:19 PM »
Was is Nevada in??

If you can’t beat the San Francisco Dons you shouldn’t get an at large.

Their best player wasn’t good enough to stick with a bottom tier ACC team
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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1652 on: March 09, 2018, 08:51:10 PM »
Damn, Nevada down 23...and it's not halftime yet.

Butler was down 20 before they ever even scored!

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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1653 on: March 09, 2018, 08:53:27 PM »
Nevada gonna possibly be down 40 at half.

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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1654 on: March 09, 2018, 08:56:46 PM »
First bid stealer in the mountain west. Thats a shame.

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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1655 on: March 09, 2018, 09:04:52 PM »
Do MTSU, St Mary's and Nevada all get in?  I think 1 of the 3 will

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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1656 on: March 09, 2018, 09:08:57 PM »
Do MTSU, St Mary's and Nevada all get in?  I think 1 of the 3 will

Nevada will. St Mary's may. MTSU sure as hell shouldn't.
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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1657 on: March 09, 2018, 09:10:00 PM »
Do MTSU, St Mary's and Nevada all get in?  I think 1 of the 3 will

They all suck
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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1658 on: March 09, 2018, 09:19:10 PM »
Was is Nevada in??

If you can’t beat the San Francisco Dons you shouldn’t get an at large.

Their best player wasn’t good enough to stick with a bottom tier ACC team

Honestly their resume isn't impressive but they'll make it

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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1659 on: March 09, 2018, 09:26:48 PM »
Honestly their resume isn't impressive but they'll make it

Rhode island the only tournament team they’ve beaten and some bad losses sprinkled in there. 7 losses. seems they should at least be on the bubble.
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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1660 on: March 09, 2018, 09:27:12 PM »
Nevada has an RPI of 11 and SOS of 63. They will make it in with room to spare.

Not so sure on St. Mary's and MTSU. I would leave both out personally.
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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1661 on: March 09, 2018, 09:27:31 PM »
I don't know if this has been said yet, but MU played 13 out of 20 conference games against tournament teams, and 1 out of every 4 games was against a top 5 team.  Finishing 10-10 in that kind of gauntlet seems like a team that deserves a bid.  It seems like our lack of a "signature" win (with numerous opportunities, I know...) is our only resume hole, but doesn't everyone else have even bigger holes?  On paper, I just don't see how we aren't in.
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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1662 on: March 09, 2018, 09:30:33 PM »
Nevada has an RPI of 11 and SOS of 63. They will make it in with room to spare.

Not so sure on St. Mary's and MTSU. I would leave both out personally.

Idc what RPI says

They have beaten 1 tourney team. And it’s another mid major
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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1663 on: March 09, 2018, 09:38:16 PM »
Idc what RPI says

They have beaten 1 tourney team. And it’s another mid major
I agree with you, unfortunately I don't think the comitee will.

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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1664 on: March 09, 2018, 09:40:04 PM »
with a mid major like Nevada the RPI can fool you

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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1665 on: March 09, 2018, 09:44:46 PM »
Idc what RPI says

They have beaten 1 tourney team. And it’s another mid major

They're a perfect storm for the flaws of the quadrant system. All but 1 of their Q2 games are outside the top 75 in RPI, but they were on the road. And somehow their non-con SOS is a top 20 too. Not sure how that happened. They're a lock, but they're not impressive on paper.

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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1666 on: March 09, 2018, 09:45:22 PM »
I agree with you, unfortunately I don't think the comitee will.

Yeah I know.

But that’s why it’s dumb.

This could be a wide open tourney with so few dominate teams.

But instead we are gonna let in untested teams who lose to teams that gave me a call to check on my eligibility.
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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1667 on: March 09, 2018, 09:47:41 PM »
Usually I like to see the mid major teams like Nevada, MTSU, St Mary's, etc. get in over the major conference teams that go .500 or worse in their conference. 

Now that MU is one of those teams on the bubble I think it's ridiculous that a mid major who plays no one can get in!

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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1668 on: March 09, 2018, 10:05:51 PM »
Idc what RPI says

They have beaten 1 tourney team. And it’s another mid major

So don’t let any mid majors in? Let all the teams that finish in the bottom 30-40% of their major conference in? Come on. They have an SOS in 60s with an RPI of 11. I’m sorry, if you can’t finish in the top half of your conference then you can’t complain about missing the tourney.

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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1669 on: March 09, 2018, 10:07:08 PM »
Usually I like to see the mid major teams like Nevada, MTSU, St Mary's, etc. get in over the major conference teams that go .500 or worse in their conference. 

Now that MU is one of those teams on the bubble I think it's ridiculous that a mid major who plays no one can get in!

Ha! Same. I’d rather see a mid major over a team that’s proven they aren’t capable of a final 4 run.

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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1670 on: March 09, 2018, 10:16:11 PM »
So don’t let any mid majors in? Let all the teams that finish in the bottom 30-40% of their major conference in? Come on. They have an SOS in 60s with an RPI of 11. I’m sorry, if you can’t finish in the top half of your conference then you can’t complain about missing the tourney.


No, I’m saying don’t let bad teams in.

It’s a simple concept. Beat someone worth noting.
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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1671 on: March 09, 2018, 10:17:15 PM »
Ha! Same. I’d rather see a mid major over a team that’s proven they aren’t capable of a final 4 run.

And what has any of St Mary’s, Nevada, Middle Tennessee done to prove they are capable of a final 4 run?
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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1672 on: March 09, 2018, 10:34:56 PM »
And what has any of St Mary’s, Nevada, Middle Tennessee done to prove they are capable of a final 4 run?

Some of these teams have 40% - 50% more wins than us. That's a hard thing to do, even if your SOS is 80 or 100. If you can win 8 or 10 straight, I think you're capable of making a run. Winning in your conference is tough, even if it's the MAC or the Mountain West. It's harder in the Big East and the ACC for sure, but Nevada's KenPom rating of 20 is no accident. That's why there are always upsets in March. Smaller schools with so-so schedules that find a way to win a ton of games are probably better than a lot of people think they are.

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Re: Bubble Watch 2018
« Reply #1673 on: March 09, 2018, 10:40:35 PM »
Georgia fell back to 76 in RPI. Quad 3....for now. Could possible shift back up.
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« Reply #1674 on: March 09, 2018, 10:41:33 PM »
Some of these teams have 40% - 50% more wins than us. That's a hard thing to do, even if your SOS is 80 or 100. If you can win 8 or 10 straight, I think you're capable of making a run. Winning in your conference is tough, even if it's the MAC or the Mountain West. It's harder in the Big East and the ACC for sure, but Nevada's KenPom rating of 20 is no accident. That's why there are always upsets in March. Smaller schools with so-so schedules that find a way to win a ton of games are probably better than a lot of people think they are.

Or you can let a team like Cuse in when everyone says they lost too much

And they make the final 4.

I want battle tested teams getting at larges.

Love mid majors who earn their bids
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