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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: real chili 83 on November 17, 2016, 08:07:55 PM
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Wolverine livers on the menu tonight.
Let's shove their "M" up their wolverine a$$.
GO WARRIORS!!!!!!
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Gameday chat is working. Link on the resources menu, but here too...
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=chat
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Yo, Wocky.
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Calling a 5 point MU win, Sam SOTG
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Nervous about this one. A loss wouldn't surprise me.
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WTF - gray?????
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JJJ
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JJJ great pass. love his vision.
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Wasn't this supposed to start at 8:30? Just turned on and it's already 10-5
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Going to have to figure out how to defend the pick and roll.
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Wasn't this supposed to start at 8:30? Just turned on and it's already 10-5
Yep same here
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Can someone tell the announcers that the guy on Carter flopped. He was barely touched.
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Thought the game was at 8:30??
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Can someone tell the announcers that the guy on Carter flopped. He was barely touched.
Glad I'm not the only one who thought it looked like a flop on the replay
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4-5 3 pt shooting! Were doomed if we can't defend that.
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Boy some tuff breaks so far.
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JJJ great pass. love his vision.
You are such a joke
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Size matters. If UM rains 3s all night, turn off the TV and go to bed
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Luke is kind of a dud.
MU not guarding the 3.
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Oh boy
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8 turnovers in 9 minutes
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If the pick and roll is either going to be a layup or an open three need to play some zone.
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Wojo again showing he cannot teach how to defend the pick and roll.
No excuse for this crap again.
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My fear coming true. They are struggling on the perimeter defensively.
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Matt Heldt, the human foul machine. One minute, two fouls. Just not very good.
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Lots of self inflicted wounds
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Held keeping up his foul a minute pace
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I've very over these bad first halves...
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MU just not well coached.
MU is a 1 pt favorite.
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Freaking ref show so far. They seem really pleased with themselves. After the out of bounds ball, both visibly shook their heads like "I didn't see it" and gave UM the ball.
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MU just not well coached.
MU is a 1 pt favorite.
It is half of a half. calm down.
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My fear coming true. They are struggling on the perimeter defensively.
...and their bigs score on the inside. Looks like tap city.
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Held keeping up his foul a minute pace
At least he made this one worth it. If you're gonna foul, knock the hell out of them going to the rim.
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R-E-L-A-X
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Poorly coached team.
Same old, same old.
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Piss poor play so far and piss poor officiating.
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Why does MU insist on extending the defense?
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Why is the band not there?? Michigan band sounding good
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10 TOs? Wow.
Still foul a bunch too
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Why is the band not there?? Michigan band sounding good
The band is playing Ring Out Ahoya right now.
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This seems like a case of everything having gone well for us for two games; reason says we are owed a game where everything goes wrong.
Unfortunately, it happened to be paired with a game where everything is going perfect for Michigan.
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Beilein is eating Wojo's lunch.
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Blowout city
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RIP
Gonna lose by 30
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Dayton for Marquette.
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The band is playing Ring Out Ahoya right now.
Nice! Thanks
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Pitt is evil...etc
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Terrible half for MU. Game is over so just teach em up in the 2nd half.
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Nice passes by J and hc
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These announcers suck. Who gives a s*** if it takes 17 muscles to smile
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The lack of offense is whatever, guys go cold and shots don't fall but the pick and roll defense is a major major concern
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A game like this isn't going to help get the students interested and engaged in the basketball program again.
Wojo got slack for being a rookie coach but that leeway should not last forever.
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we're shooting 56% and losing by 22. Yikes.
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MU just not well coached.
MU is a 1 pt favorite.
Yep. I think recruiting is his obvious strength. Terrible defense.
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Terrible half for MU. Game is over so just teach em up in the 2nd half.
Why do you even watch? The first half is not even over.
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Humbling
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crash back to reality. wojo still can't coach
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I'm getting tired of our yearly early season blowouts :-\
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Is there anything that isn't working for Michigan? Even bad shots bounce right back to them.
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What are we ranked on Monday?
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Why do you even watch? The first half is not even over.
He watches because he's a fan. He can have an opinion.
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I don't think MU is gonna win this one.
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What are we ranked on Monday?
Over 9000
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I blame the Hoya gray uniforms
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Is there anything that isn't working for Michigan? Even bad shots bounce right back to them.
I wish that was the reason we were getting blown out
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I guess will be practicing in whit t-shirts on the play ground.
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Burn the greys
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Bunch of chicken little fans.
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Bunch of chicken little fans.
So we're going to pull this one out in the second half?
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Bunch of chicken little fans.
Yeah, we've never seen this defensive ineptitude from a Wojo coached team before.
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Is there anything that isn't working for Michigan? Even bad shots bounce right back to them.
And our good shots are bouncing out. Everything is coming up Michigan.
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Did we have a game like this during any recent NCAA tourney year?
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So we're going to pull this one out in the second half?
Who said that?
We have a bunch of fans who have been sitting on their thumbs the first 2 games and now suddenly we're getting blown out and out of the woodwork they come, sounding like a bunch of 3 year old babies because we're going to lose a game.
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Where are our great shooters? We have a lot of options so the entire team can't possible go cold.
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With luck, this will be the worst half of basketball this year
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Did we have a game like this during any recent NCAA tourney year?
Vandy at home.
Louisville just about every year.
Etc.
So yes.
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Where are our great shooters? We have a lot of options so the entire team can't possible go cold.
We're not cold. We're just not taking threes. Though inside, Luke has had at least three bunnies bounce in and out.
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Who said that?
We have a bunch of fans who have been sitting on their thumbs the first 2 games and now suddenly we're getting blown out and out of the woodwork they come, sounding like a bunch of 3 year old babies because we're going to lose a game.
Thank you. 20 minutes is a lot of basketball. Even 1 minute is a lot to a team facing Georgetown!
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Gut check time. Let us see what the team is made of.
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Then there's hope, just sucks in the moment
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It seems like every pass Michigan makes is to an open man or someone who creates space to be open. Every MU pass goes to someone with a Michigan guy immediately closing, giving the MU guy no room to get a shot off. We are that slow and they are quick.
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Did we have a game like this during any recent NCAA tourney year?
I'm getting old. I can't remember.
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Was MU really favored by 1 going in to this game?
I think this game shows our lack of height is going to hurt this year. If we don't take care of the ball that makes it worse.
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50, ugh. Have we practiced the zone yet this year, or is that always implemented after we get wrecked?
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Who said that?
We have a bunch of fans who have been sitting on their thumbs the first 2 games and now suddenly we're getting blown out and out of the woodwork they come, sounding like a bunch of 3 year old babies because we're going to lose a game.
we ain't just losing, we are getting our arses kicked on espn. mu fans are getting restless. if the team keeps playing like this against competitive teams and the losses start piling up it will get worse. getting recruits only gets a coach so far. at some point you've got to win
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Going to be fun in the locker room with Wojo
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Gut check time for the fans, too
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Who said that?
We have a bunch of fans who have been sitting on their thumbs the first 2 games and now suddenly we're getting blown out and out of the woodwork they come, sounding like a bunch of 3 year old babies because we're going to lose a game.
I mean, there's losing a game and then there's this. Our alternates should be brown so it's less embarrassing as we crap ourselves.
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Fischer looks like he has never defended a pick and roll in his life. One of the worst defensive halves I have seen MU have in quite awhile.
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I mean, there's losing a game and then there's this. Our alternates should be brown so it's less embarrassing as we crap ourselves.
Have we lost yet?
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Make MU great again?
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It seems like every pass Michigan makes is to an open man or someone who creates space to be open. Every MU pass goes to someone with a Michigan guy immediately closing, giving the MU guy no room to get a shot off. We are that slow and they are quick.
It's a pattern. Some coaches know how to coach defense and some do not. Wojo does not. Defense is atrocious. Wide open shots every possession.
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Vandy at home.
Louisville just about every year.
Etc.
So yes.
This.
We're clearly getting beat, but the talent between these two is much closer than the score indicates. Bad as we've been, Michigan really isn't all that impressive.
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We've been a second half team all season. So, we've got 'em right where we want 'em.
Time to start shooting from the outside and stop relying on Fischer, whose shot is not on tonight.
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Didn't think it was possible to match their last performance in the Garden, but they have.
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14 turnovers, 11 field goals made. Not a good ratio. Believe 4 screen fouls and 3 offensive fouls.
Pick and rolls at first, then just like last year double team, kick out for open three. Defensive strategy the same and sort of not working.
Rheinhardt had 3 points, 3 fouls and 3 turnovers.
MU only took like five outside shots, everything else was drives which were missed or altered by Michigan,s size. Just abit perplexed about that.
Hope the size factor and lack of a big PF doesn't hurt team all year, because Heldt is just not ready.
Wojo will have nice discussion with the guys and maybe come out fighting a little better.
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not a very disciplined effort, lol
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Gut check time for the fans, too
Problem is there are lot of gutless fans out there.
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Where are our great shooters? We have a lot of options so the entire team can't possible go cold.
Michigan's defense pretty much smothering them on the perimeter. Very few open looks for us.
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Let's respect the process. :(
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Like I said, a bunch of chicken littles. I don't care if we lose by 79 on ESPN or by 1 with no broadcast in 5 overtimes. A loss is a loss. Some people get into moral victories. Not my thing personally. Different strokes for different folks.
If getting blown out on ESPN embarrasses you then turn the game off.
News flash: we weren't going undefeated. Shocker.
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It's a pattern. Some coaches know how to coach defense and some do not. Wojo does not. Defense is atrocious. Wide open shots every possession.
Could it be the guys just can't execute?
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Guess we don't shoot 3's anymore? WTF?
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Just a reminder we've got game chat back...
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=chat
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Who said that?
We have a bunch of fans who have been sitting on their thumbs the first 2 games and now suddenly we're getting blown out and out of the woodwork they come
Fans? No, just a-holes like warriorfan14 who only posts when we are losing.
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Problem is there are lot of gutless fans out there.
Bingo.
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Fans? No, just a-holes like warriorfan14 who only posts when we are losing.
Also true.
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Like I said, a bunch of chicken littles. I don't care if we lose by 79 on ESPN or by 1 with no broadcast in 5 overtimes. A loss is a loss. Some people get into moral victories. Not my thing personally. Different strokes for different folks.
If getting blown out on ESPN embarrasses you then turn the game off.
News flash: we weren't going undefeated. Shocker.
Some see a pattern with the issues we're seeing tonight. Some will look at this as one game. Both can make a strong case. Put your fan police badge away
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We've been a second half team all season. So, we've got 'em right where we want 'em.
Time to start shooting from the outside and stop relying on Fischer, whose shot is not on tonight.
I like how you think.
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Soooooo, what's everybody drinking? Glad I picked up the 32oz can.
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This looks a lot like last year. 1 pass and then drive to the hoop. Lots of standing around on offense. MU seems intimidated by Mich's size/length.
The D is really bad. Doubling, getting off balance or out of position to close on the 3's. Mich knocking down open shots much like MU did vs Vandy.
The tough part is once the roster balances out between front and back court Fischer is gone. Feel bad for him. He's a good player.
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14 turnovers, 3 Three point attempts, no points by a non-starter.
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Guess we don't shoot 3's anymore? WTF?
This is what's irritating me. If you want to build a team around 4 shooters then drive and kick and let it fly. Don't abandon what you built yourself to be because you had some early struggles.
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We outscored Vanderbilt by 25 in the second half. Michigan should be absolutely freaking terrified right now. Terrified. They didn't do near enough in the first half.
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I've been saying for years...MU can't win in gray jerseys in national TV.
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Bad as we've been, Michigan really isn't all that impressive.
I'd argue that they have been this game. Very, very active defense against out perimeter guys, excellent movement on offense. While we may have been playing bad, I think it is because Michigan dictated it by their defense.
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I've been saying for years...MU can't win in gray jerseys in national TV.
I just love that this can be a thing so quickly.
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I'd argue that they have been this game. Very, very active defense against out perimeter guys, excellent movement on offense. While we may have been playing bad, I think it is because Michigan dictated it by their defense.
You watching the same game?
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You watching the same game?
You don't think Michigan's perimeter defense has been good? We don't only have three 3-pt attempts, one a heave at the end of the half, for no reason.
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We outscored Vanderbilt by 25 in the second half. Michigan should be absolutely freaking terrified right now. Terrified. They didn't do near enough in the first half.
Lol I love your optimism but....
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Time to warrior up. The second half will tell us more than the first.
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Two possessions two walks.
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Time to warrior up. The second half will tell us more than the first.
Yeah, two turnovers and two jack up threes to start. Ugh
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JJJ nice steal and slam
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Guys, this sucks...but we all would have taken 3-1. Let's beat Pitt tomorrow.
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Bad officiating, bad announcing, bad basketball.
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Even their travels are working out nicely for Michigan
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Normally I don't mind Fran, but he is awful tonight. Ravech is also rough.
They also seem to think they're calling an intrasquad scrimmage for Michigan.
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We look like an overmatched high school team
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JJJ nice steal and slam
Nice selfish end to end blown lay up
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I don't know how many times Luke is going to leave his man completely undefended under the hoop
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There we go, more Hauser, less Rheinhardt. He played terrible tonight. Get Sam more experience.
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Is there're a cachnout threr? Seriously, Wojo has one year. The new ne has a short year to show they have been prepared.
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I really hate that the NBA line is even on the court.
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Michigan can throw any shot they want up, and expect to get a rebound
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Is there're a cachnout threr? Seriously, Wojo has one year. The new ne has a short year to show they have been prepared.
Well we know the good Doctor is drinking.
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Does Wojo know his ass is on the line with this NYC game?
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Well we know the good Doctor is drinking.
Lol. Smart text but empathy recorded!
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Does Wojo know his ass is on the line with this NYC game?
I hope so -- lots of big donors out here.
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Nice selfish end to end blown lay up
He is working on his left.
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He is working on his left.
Better keep working.
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Lots of posters I didn't see here during the first two games....
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Will Sacar get some playing time tonight?
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Well we know the good Doctor is drinking.
Pretty much true 24/7 if any one knows me
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Will Sacar get some playing time tonight?
Are you unaware that he is redshirting?
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Stating obvious, but MU will struggle against bigger teams this year
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Stating obvious, but MU will struggle against bigger teams this year
I think bigger teams with good guards yes. Teams with a lot of bigs but poor perimeter defenders we will be fine.
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JJJ with an NBA three and Howard a nice 3
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Maybe we can make a Louisville like comeback. Doable?
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Bernard Toone mention!
(http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I00006Ixwo4Q_9mI/s/750/750/M1K1977CCO.jpg)
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Is #5 for Michigan wearing a singlet?
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" A lot of people are moving out of the city..... warmer climes".
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If there were 12 minutes left we might have a chance. Amazing what happens when you just don't turn the ball over.
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Are you unaware that he is redshirting?
Yep, did not know that.
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Reinhardt needs to know when to stop shooting. 1-9 tonight and 1-6 from 3-point land. I'm not sure why he gets so much playing time.
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Still not that impressed with Michigan. They've had so many lucky shots bounce in, while Luke alone has had at least 8 points go in and out. Deserved win for them, but not convinced remotely they are the better team. They just had everything go right while we had everything go wrong.
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Jesus we had the ball 3X's to cut the lead to single digits and such poor decision making. Reinhardt is just a volume guy. He gets his points by taking an NBA volume of shots. Dude has 15 shots tonight. 2 makes. What's his eFG?
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Still not that impressed with Michigan. They've had so many lucky shots bounce in, while Luke alone has had at least 8 points go in and out. Deserved win for them, but not convinced remotely they are the better team. They just had everything go right while we had everything go wrong.
We're winning the 2nd half. It's just that they clobbered the 1st half.
And I know it's not much of a victory. But usually if a team is so much better than you, they'll pull away the 2nd half.
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Had plenty of chances in the 2nd half, just couldn't get a number of good looks to go.
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Ugh... mich just hit every shot. Gotta bounce back hard tomorrow.
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Never quit. That's something positive. The way the 1st half went they could have lost by 40.
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Once we stopped turning the ball over in the second half things tightened up. Gotta maintain control of the rock, and definitely can't give it up on unforced errors like traveling, illegal screens, and bad passes. Gotta beat Pitt tomorrow, or the NCAAs become a distant pipe dream.
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Traci keeps playing like that n howards gonna play 30 mins a game
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Team wasnt ready to play. All jacked up about being 2-0 n playing michigan on a big stage n craps down their leg. Mu is beter than that. Starts tommoro