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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: PaintTouches on April 07, 2023, 11:30:14 AM

Title: Big East Coaching Survey
Post by: PaintTouches on April 07, 2023, 11:30:14 AM
In having a side convo on how I'd tier off current BE coaches, I thought it might be prudent to get a bigger sample and try to crowdsource responses, to then make some interactive graphics based on those answers.

If you have 90 seconds, I'd love to have your input: https://forms.gle/DCX4wxutQpst9yHF8 (https://forms.gle/DCX4wxutQpst9yHF8)

Here's a sneak peak:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1037930997884387459/1093928082685050943/image.png)
Title: Re: Big East Coaching Survey
Post by: Pepe Sylvia on April 07, 2023, 01:20:05 PM
Good idea, I gave my input, I don't believe in Thad Matta at all. Still not convinced on Hurley either lol.
Title: Re: Big East Coaching Survey
Post by: PBRme on April 07, 2023, 01:35:09 PM
Started to fill it our but not providing email.
Title: Re: Big East Coaching Survey
Post by: Pepe Sylvia on April 07, 2023, 01:38:51 PM
Like 15 years ago I made an email i never look at ever to provide to stuff like this lol
Title: Re: Big East Coaching Survey
Post by: ChuckyChip on April 07, 2023, 01:55:20 PM
Pie charts should never be used as a data visualization...just awful!
Title: Re: Big East Coaching Survey
Post by: jfp61 on April 07, 2023, 02:00:19 PM
In having a side convo on how I'd tier off current BE coaches, I thought it might be prudent to get a bigger sample and try to crowdsource responses, to then make some interactive graphics based on those answers.

If you have 90 seconds, I'd love to have your input: https://forms.gle/DCX4wxutQpst9yHF8 (https://forms.gle/DCX4wxutQpst9yHF8)

Here's a sneak peak:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1037930997884387459/1093928082685050943/image.png)

Way too nice to Kim English
Title: Re: Big East Coaching Survey
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 07, 2023, 02:10:50 PM
Way too nice to Kim English

And Shaheen Holloway. I'd rank him 11th.
Title: Re: Big East Coaching Survey
Post by: PaintTouches on April 07, 2023, 03:43:28 PM
Started to fill it our but not providing email.

Just a heads up, you can put gibberish in there if you want. It isn't confirmed or validated. Just a way to prevent spam responders.
Title: Re: Big East Coaching Survey
Post by: StillAWarrior on April 07, 2023, 03:56:14 PM
Just a heads up, you can put gibberish in there if you want. It isn't confirmed or validated. Just a way to prevent spam responders.

Thanks, but most of us save our gibberish for 'Scoop.
Title: Re: Big East Coaching Survey
Post by: mubb3434 on April 07, 2023, 04:00:28 PM
Ed Cooley is the easy pick for most overrated.
Title: Re: Big East Coaching Survey
Post by: JWags85 on April 07, 2023, 05:08:39 PM
Good idea, I gave my input, I don't believe in Thad Matta at all. Still not convinced on Hurley either lol.

You dont believe in a coach with 2 FFs, 3 E8s, 2 S16s and 5 Big Ten Regular Season titles (plus 2 A10 titles) cause he had a bad year at Butler?

He might not the right guy to steady the ship at Butler and make them good again at this point in his career, but choosing him over guys like Kim English, Holloway, or Stubblefield is clinically insane.
Title: Re: Big East Coaching Survey
Post by: Badgerhater on April 07, 2023, 05:14:40 PM
Started to fill it our but not providing email.

That is why still have my AOL email from 1995 so I can fill out this stuff
Title: Re: Big East Coaching Survey
Post by: MU82 on April 07, 2023, 05:39:51 PM
You dont believe in a coach with 2 FFs, 3 E8s, 2 S16s and 5 Big Ten Regular Season titles (plus 2 A10 titles) cause he had a bad year at Butler?

He might not the right guy to steady the ship at Butler and make them good again at this point in his career, but choosing him over guys like Kim English, Holloway, or Stubblefield is clinically insane.

Anecdotal to be sure, but every single time I saw him on TV last season he looked exhausted. I hope his heart is in it, because Butler needs a great coach to make it back from the abyss.

Ed Cooley is the easy pick for most overrated.

Agree. He’s accomplished relatively little - though I give him credit for convincing many that Providence is a nearly impossible place to win.
Title: Re: Big East Coaching Survey
Post by: brewcity77 on April 07, 2023, 05:42:54 PM
You dont believe in a coach with 2 FFs, 3 E8s, 2 S16s and 5 Big Ten Regular Season titles (plus 2 A10 titles) cause he had a bad year at Butler?

He might not the right guy to steady the ship at Butler and make them good again at this point in his career, but choosing him over guys like Kim English, Holloway, or Stubblefield is clinically insane.

I don't think any of them are very good right now. Stubblefield is probably the best of that group though. DePaul is a really tough job.

That Matta couldn't do better with what was at least a decent starting five, and immediately lost Taylor and Lukosius after the season, I think he's washed. He took the job because it's a local payday, but I don't think he's the guy he was at Ohio State, and the cracks that were the reason he was dismissed from OSU are already showing up.

Matta was clearly backsliding, then had health issues, then sat out for 6 seasons that were massively transformative in both how the game is played and how rosters are managed. I don't think it's crazy to look at his last couple years at OSU and this past season and think "yeah, Thad doesn't have it anymore."
Title: Re: Big East Coaching Survey
Post by: BM1090 on April 07, 2023, 08:07:31 PM
And Shaheen Holloway. I'd rank him 11th.

Holloway?? You'd put the guy who made an elite 8 as a 15 seed ahead of Stubblefield?
Title: Re: Big East Coaching Survey
Post by: PaintTouches on April 14, 2023, 12:23:33 PM
Here's the writeup of the 1100+ responses we've gotten to date:

https://painttouches.com/2023/04/14/ranking-the-coaches-in-the-big-east-shaka-smart-rick-pitino-ed-cooley-dan-hurley/ (https://painttouches.com/2023/04/14/ranking-the-coaches-in-the-big-east-shaka-smart-rick-pitino-ed-cooley-dan-hurley/)

Shaka scores out in Tier 1 based on the overwhelming MU response, but was very interested to see how non-MU fans perceived him. There's a link in the post for a Looker Studio dashboard where you can play around with all the questions as well as filter by fanbases. Be sure to check that out.

(https://painttouches.files.wordpress.com/2023/04/image-3.png)
Title: Re: Big East Coaching Survey
Post by: PointWarrior on April 14, 2023, 10:55:49 PM
I think we all know the two Marquette fans who voted Shaka a "Bad" coach...
Title: Re: Big East Coaching Survey
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 15, 2023, 07:53:30 AM
I think we all know the two "Marquette" fans who voted Shaka a "Bad" coach...

FIFY
Title: Re: Big East Coaching Survey
Post by: Scoop Snoop on April 15, 2023, 08:45:51 AM
I think we all know the two Marquette fans who voted Shaka a "Bad" coach...

And they are in desperate need of professional help with their obvious psychological/mental problems.