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Question is why are we just looking at this data out now, 2 years in?
You’d think you’d want to know that but I guess not for a few of you here.
https://mobile.twitter.com/alykatzz/status/1479552490764967940First real look at the data behind this question. About half (in NY at least) of Covid hospitalizations are hospitalized for other reasons. Of course this doesn’t stop with just hospitalizations. Question is why are we just looking at this data out now, 2 years in?
The data in the tweet says statewide 57% of patients with COVID were hospitalized due to COVID. In some areas as high as 80%.Your data doesn't say what you think it says.
Oh wow, big shock. Your saying that he's willfully misinterpreting data to fit a narrative? I refuse to believe he is that kind of person.
How was it misinterpreted?? You guys are something. This is supposed to be good news.
About half (43%) statewide is what I said. Which is what the tweet said.
Okay, but how is it good news? Because hospital beds aren't as full with "Covid" patients? Anyone who shows up to the hospital needs to be treated regardless of what they're presenting. Adding Covid on top of a broken leg (for example) doesn't really change the prognosis. The hospital still has to treat the patient under the same Covid protocols. Which means sanitation and full PPE for this person. The person is still there FOR Covid treatment. Whether they arrived with covid (the assumption your making here is that after their initial admission, their case was mild case. Also, what we're really looking at is a snapshot of what the person had when they were admitted. It isn't right to assume that the 43% of people state wide that were admitted aren't also now suffering from a more severe case of Covid. I think it should be important to add a final column that shows how many of the people who were admitted WITH Covid but now are there FOR Covid beyond why they were originally admitted. That would paint a much clearer picture.Personally, I'd just classify this as 'news', but on a larger scale we should have a national healthcare database so we can perform better analysis of situations like this. Because I think it would be important to know. Instead of the jumbled up mess we currently have.
Hey guys someone named Ally on Twitter posted a screenshot of a spreadsheet check it out.
Our local hospital is stopping all non emergency surgeries. But hey, the folks that are having their surgeries postponed will be thrilled that some people are in the hospital without Covid being the primary reason.
Maybe what you are missing is that anyone who comes to the hospital gets swabbed for Covid and is positive but asymptomatic is a non issue. For example, when my daughter went to ER for a broken bone they swabbed her. If she would have came back positive if would have counted as Covid hospital bed despite being asymptomatic without any concern.
Of course this doesn’t stop with just hospitalizations. Question is why are we just looking at this data out now, 2 years in?
Your daughter was admitted for a broken bone? They only swab if the patient was being admitted.I think all of this is kind of funny. A majority of the patients I see “with COVID” are also fully vaccinated, proving the vaccines work. The PPE and staffing and all of that is all terrible, but the “with COVID” numbers going up, is a good sign.
https://mobile.twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1480207649807507458
https://mobile.twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1480679058488836097Hey look, they’re talking about Ally from Twitter and her spreadsheet on CNN!!! Cool.
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/COVID-San-Francisco-staff-shortage-UCSF-16758335.php70%!!
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/07/biden-covid-hospitalization-data-recalculate-00006341
https://info.stratadecision.com/hubfs/Website/NPPVT/NPPVT%202022%20March_Final.pdfGreat data that if I’m reading correctly hospital utilization throughout the whole pandemic never reached pre pandemic (2019) levels. Can that be true?
While there are certainly clear cut cases like a broken leg even those require a higher level of care that take up hospital space. Many of the for/with cases aren't clear cut. During the Omnicrom Wave hosptials had a lot of patients with chronic conditions exacerbated by COVID. These folks were technically admitted for another condition, but COVID caused it to flare up.
Absolutely! I guess I was just surprised to see that at no point in the past 2 years of the pandemic we’re hospitals overrun at unprecedented levels like it was being portrayed in the media. Even looking at regional breakdowns that would better highlight the seasonal spikes across the country throughout a calendar year hospital utilization never topped 2019 levels if I’m reading the data correctly that is.
What about emergency rooms and ICUs?