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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: ChicosBailBonds on February 17, 2014, 10:28:36 PM
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Forgive me if this has already been posted
http://msn.foxsports.com/wisconsin/story/marquette-eyeing-signature-victory-against-creighton-021714
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Man it would be awesome if the team came out absolutely jacked and sent a statement with a nice whooping.
Notre Dame last year.
UL in the year of midgets.
and so on..
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Man it would be awesome if the team came out absolutely jacked and sent a statement with a nice whooping.
Notre Dame last year.
UL in the year of midgets.
and so on..
Like UConn our first year in the BEast? Edit: http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=260030269
I wish...
I just don't see this particular MU team has the makeup to be able to do it. I really think it will be nearly impossible to win the game on the defensive end, so we'll have to outscore them. And therein lies the problem...
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We're getting them at the perfect time.
They're coming off a huge win against Nova and our backs are against the wall.
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We're getting them at the perfect time.
They're coming off a huge win against Nova and our backs are against the wall.
Yup, said that the other day...almost a trap game for Creighton. Timing can be everything...take advantage of it. Lines up perfectly for us
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No such thing as a trap game. It's immature players that fall into "traps." Creighton is as senior heavy as they come.
Respect the process.
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No such thing as a trap game. It's immature players that fall into "traps." Creighton is as senior heavy as they come.
Respect the process.
Will it happen? Don't know. Can it happen? Of course. I agree with you that Creighton's senior leadership makes it less likely, but they also went into a huge game a day ago with first place on the line. That can take some things out of you if you let it. Let downs happen to even the best or most experienced teams.
Let's put it another way, I'd rather play them in this situation where they are coming off an emotional home win over the other clear top team in the league vs taking them on after they just got done playing Seton Hall or DePaul at home.
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No such thing as a trap game. It's immature players that fall into "traps." Creighton is as senior heavy as they come.
Respect the process.
Creighton is certainly a mature team which makes it more difficult to catch them off guard. That stated, we are still talking about college kids. I don't think any college team is impervious to losing focus.
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Buzz's us against the world attitude might not have worked until recently, but there seems to be a different attitude with this bunch since the latter half of Butler game. The older guys might have realized it is now or never for them and who knows what happens the next couple of weeks. These type of threads sure beat the hell out of talking about rotations. Hope it continues.
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Like UConn our first year in the BEast? Edit: http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=260030269
Dominic and Jerel went 9-35 from the field that game. Brutal.
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No such thing as a trap game. It's immature players that fall into "traps." Creighton is as senior heavy as they come.
Respect the process.
Agreed. You can't tell me Creighton doesn't have its sights on a BEast championship in its first year in the conference. If they lose even once, they are out of first and they are the only team that has beat Villy in conf. I can't imagine Creighton wants to rely on anyone else's help to win the conference. Can't expect any trap game or bad shooting night to beat them. Every time I've watched them they seem focused and mature. MU simply has to go out and play with superior effort and do everything they can to beat them.
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People that have never competed use terms such as "trap" game.
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NM - duplicate
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People that have never competed use terms such as "trap" game.
It is a legitimate thing, its just that the term is used exponentially more than it actually happens. Beyond that, despite the challenging year, playing at MU would by no means qualify as a 'trap' opponent. DePaul? Sure. Seton Hall? Maybe, but there is no chance in hell that Crieghton is looking past this game in any way. They will likely be favored, but it is far from a game that should be considered anything near an automatic win.
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Funny, MU has lost a lot of "trap" games in the past - at least that is the excuse people use..
Almost like the proverbial "bad matchup" the other board's founder uses as an excuse for every lose. Never new Marquette was such a bad match-up for so many teams - I am surprised they can even win a game. It could not be the players poorly or the game plan was bad or the execution of the game plan or coaching decisions :)
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Chicos is too busy running a $2.8 billion dollar company to make intelligent statements, how many other lower level executives use the term "running the company".
Lol
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People that have never competed use terms such as "trap" game.
I can't believe you would say Admiral Akbar never competed
(http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/4fad386beab8eac843000000/its-a-trap-what-happens-when-advertisers-dont-meet-twitters-spending-quotas.jpg)
Or that you would call out real competitors, not just on the silver screen that have said the same thing.
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Chicos is too busy running a $2.8 billion dollar company to make intelligent statements, how many other lower level executives use the term "running the company".
Lol
Never said running the company, I said running a $2.8B business. I am the business owner for a $2.8B segment and that is how we are categorized. Feel free to divide your company as you wish, we've done ours this way. We have roughly 5 business owners responsible for about $6B. The rest of the company revenue (over $20B) comes in under a more traditional structure, but not the $6B. If you dig hard enough in the trades, you will find that is exactly how it is stated, structured, etc.
Clearly, try to catch up. Words mean something.
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I just don't see this particular MU team has the makeup to be able to do it. I really think it will be nearly impossible to win the game on the defensive end, so we'll have to outscore them. And therein lies the problem...
This team can pretty much beat anyone in the BE. Especially at home. They are going to have to make it ugly on the defensive end and get them out of their rhythm.
Marquette will score a lot more than the 49 they got on new years eve too.
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We can lose to Creighton and still have a chance to get a bid. Beat Creighton and lose to DePaul we are done. The danger of losing to Creighton is that it changes the teams attitude. Going 4-2 means we have to beat one of Creighton, Villanova and St. John's and of course win the other three games.
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Never said running the company, I said running a $2.8B business. I am the business owner for a $2.8B segment and that is how we are categorized. Feel free to divide your company as you wish, we've done ours this way. We have roughly 5 business owners responsible for about $6B. The rest of the company revenue (over $20B) comes in under a more traditional structure, but not the $6B. If you dig hard enough in the trades, you will find that is exactly how it is stated, structured, etc.
Clearly, try to catch up. Words mean something.
Skews Caucasian?
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Trap game because they are coming off a big win, or, a very good team that is playing great ball and thus blew out Nova.
I guess, we will find out tomorrow night. Or maybe, we'll find out that we are playing a lot better as of late.
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We can lose to Creighton and still have a chance to get a bid. Beat Creighton and lose to DePaul
Given the rigors of our remaining schedule this literally has never crossed my mind. DePaul is my mental oasis.
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Never said running the company, I said running a $2.8B business. I am the business owner for a $2.8B segment and that is how we are categorized. Feel free to divide your company as you wish, we've done ours this way. We have roughly 5 business owners responsible for about $6B. The rest of the company revenue (over $20B) comes in under a more traditional structure, but not the $6B. If you dig hard enough in the trades, you will find that is exactly how it is stated, structured, etc.
Clearly, try to catch up. Words mean something.
Ur a classic... I guess u take a non traditional approach to definitions. Now you have "ownership".
Lol
Its fine i just like how some people like to throw out terms that they really have no clue about.
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Ur a classic... I guess u take a non traditional approach to definitions. Now you have "ownership".
Lol
Its fine i just like how some people like to throw out terms that they really have no clue about.
Have you ever held a job in Corporate America? It certainly doesn't sound like it.
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Ur a classic... I guess u take a non traditional approach to definitions. Now you have "ownership".
Lol
Its fine i just like how some people like to throw out terms that they really have no clue about.
Rat
The term "Owner" is fairly common among enterprises that are structured along an IBU/SBU model. Decision-making is de-centralized from an Executive Committee presided over by C-levels to the GM/MD level.
Don't confuse ownership with equity; rather, it is about decision-making in daily operations with a horizon of no more than one year/4 quarters.
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Best chance Marquette has at a win is if Buzz hires Jeff Gillooly to do a "Kerrigan" on Dougie.
Short of that, you simply have to pray that the Jays shoot like they have in 75% of their losses and keep it under 30% from the perimeter. Actually, considering we may have used up our 3-pointers on Saturday, it'd be best if the number is under 25% since Creighton's offense at 29% is still more powerful than MU's at near full flow.
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Skews Caucasian?
LOL...I laughed...I really did.
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Ur a classic... I guess u take a non traditional approach to definitions. Now you have "ownership".
Lol
Its fine i just like how some people like to throw out terms that they really have no clue about.
You have no idea what you are talking about on this. We have a home security business, the person at the top of that silo is the business owner and responsible for that business, even though it flows ultimate up to the company's bigger balance sheet. We have a Sports silo. We have a Premiums silo. We have a warranty services business silo. Etc. Each of those are individual businesses that people own, are responsible for the revenues generated, the expenses, the personnel, the strategy, etc. This is why when someone says they are running the business, it is different than running the company. Words have meaning.
On trap games, coaches don't like to use the term because it builds in an excuse, doesn't mean it is fictional. There are let down games, trap games, whatever it is you want to call them. A coach will try to ward off any such talk or thinking such a thing exists. Human nature. Question is whether a team is mature enough to overcome it.
Mack Brown said it nicely toward the end of the college football season. “This was a true trap game,” head coach Mack Brown said. “Everybody talks about the struggles of Kansas all week, and that’s all the kids hear. Everybody is bragging on them and I did tell them during the week… They came out and I thought they did well to handle what they needed to win the game decisively.”
Jimbo Fisher of Florida State did as well.
I guess they never competed, or the other coaches in college hoops, pro sports, etc, that have said similar things.
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You have no idea what you are talking about on this. We have a home security business, the person at the top of that silo is the business owner and responsible for that business, even though it flows ultimate up to the company's bigger balance sheet. We have a Sports silo. We have a Premiums silo. We have a warranty services business silo. Etc. Each of those are individual businesses that people own, are responsible for the revenues generated, the expenses, the personnel, the strategy, etc. This is why when someone says they are running the business, it is different than running the company. Words have meaning.
On trap games, coaches don't like to use the term because it builds in an excuse, doesn't mean it is fictional. There are let down games, trap games, whatever it is you want to call them. A coach will try to ward off any such talk or thinking such a thing exists. Human nature. Question is whether a team is mature enough to overcome it.
Mack Brown said it nicely toward the end of the college football season. “This was a true trap game,” head coach Mack Brown said. “Everybody talks about the struggles of Kansas all week, and that’s all the kids hear. Everybody is bragging on them and I did tell them during the week… They came out and I thought they did well to handle what they needed to win the game decisively.”
Jimbo Fisher of Florida State did as well.
I guess they never competed, or the other coaches in college hoops, pro sports, etc, that have said similar things.
Jams
I thought your job there at DTV was to post on Scoop
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I am a proud warrior. To consider this a trap game for Creighton is an insult to our great tradition. After all we are tied for 3rd in the league. I don't expect the Bluejays will come in thinking it is an expected win.
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Part of winning is the other team playing poorly. Normal realm of possibility. Its very possible we play well and they don't and we win. It's a legitimate thing. In hoping on a win and not on a miracle.
Wouldn't that be great though! Man would we be walking on the clouds.
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Rat
The term "Owner" is fairly common among enterprises that are structured along an IBU/SBU model. Decision-making is de-centralized from an Executive Committee presided over by C-levels to the GM/MD level.
Don't confuse ownership with equity; rather, it is about decision-making in daily operations with a horizon of no more than one year/4 quarters.
Keefe,
With all do respect to ur military background i would use the analogy of you objecting to people using terms such as " going to battle/war., etc". Chicos is a notorious name drpper n blohard. He uses terms like running a 2.8 bilioon dollar business and ownership as due to some lack of selesteem n desire to make himself look important on a messge board. When in reality, he has no clue the risks and sacrifice involved in owning a business. When he goes home at night he was just an employee , and the rest is his normal beguiling nature
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Keefe,
With all do respect to ur military background i would use the analogy of you objecting to people using terms such as " going to battle/war., etc". Chicos is a notorious name drpper n blohard. He uses terms like running a 2.8 bilioon dollar business and ownership as due to some lack of selesteem n desire to make himself look important on a messge board. When in reality, he has no clue the risks and sacrifice involved in owning a business. When he goes home at night he was just an employee , and the rest is his normal beguiling nature
Just like keefe said, "Ownership" = "responsibility". This is not some sort of word game Chicos is playing. He is just using the words that his company (and many many others) uses for his responsibility over his part of the company's business. You're picking a really terrible fight here.
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You're picking a really terrible fight here.
For more reasons than one. Do as all a favor and put this one to bed, boys.
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No such thing as a trap game. It's immature players that fall into "traps." Creighton is as senior heavy as they come.
Respect the process.
DePaul = trap game. A trap game to me is not preparing for a team you could beat in your sleep. Creighton in no way looks @ Marquette as a trap.
Marquette is a hungry wolf right now and Creighton knows it. They will be ready to play. Should be a lively game.
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Just like keefe said, "Ownership" = "responsibility". This is not some sort of word game Chicos is playing. He is just using the words that his company (and many many others) uses for his responsibility over his part of the company's business. You're picking a really terrible fight here.
Unless one's name is on the articles of incorporation and line of credit and personally stand to lose everything should the company not succeed than one is not an owner. Now some MBA consultant may have come up with a BS term to help foster dedication. But i for one n i would guess other true owners would snicker at the term, as until one is such they cannot truly understand the definition.
Have i told anyone i have an olympic medal?
Oh ya i got it out of a box of cereal
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Jams
I thought your job there at DTV was to post on Scoop
Nope, Scoop keeps me from going insane....like last night's conference call at 1:30am and the follow-up this morning at 5:30am...I kid you not.
10 more days....10 more days....10 more days.
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wow - what a dumb argument. guess your name has to be on the bank loan to be an owner? If your at the top line of the org chart of a $2.8B business, you "own" it. You "own" it by putting your ass on the line for every tough decision and for being the first person to get fired if results are not good.
but hey, that does not make you an owner...
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Nope, Scoop keeps me from going insane....like last night's conference call at 1:30am and the follow-up this morning at 5:30am...I kid you not.
10 more days....10 more days....10 more days.
Year end close? Or a badly needed respite aboard the Panty Dropper?
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Unless one's name is on the articles of incorporation and line of credit and personally stand to lose everything should the company not succeed than one is not an owner. Now some MBA consultant may have come up with a BS term to help foster dedication. But i for one n i would guess other true owners would snicker at the term, as until one is such they cannot truly understand the definition.
Have i told anyone i have an olympic medal?
Oh ya i got it out of a box of cereal
You must be in high school or college? You sound like a real dope right now.
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You must be in high school or college? You sound like a real dope right now.
Dimes tends to "double down" on his arguments when they are shown to be a little wacky.
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Unless one's name is on the articles of incorporation and line of credit and personally stand to lose everything should the company not succeed than one is not an owner. Now some MBA consultant may have come up with a BS term to help foster dedication. But i for one n i would guess other true owners would snicker at the term, as until one is such they cannot truly understand the definition.
Have i told anyone i have an olympic medal?
Oh ya i got it out of a box of cereal
I work for a fairly big corporation and I regularly deal with business "owners" to get approval for projects, process changes, upgrades, etc. It is a commonly used business term in my company, anyway.
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wow - what a dumb argument. guess your name has to be on the bank loan to be an owner? If your at the top line of the org chart of a $2.8B business, you "own" it. You "own" it by putting your ass on the line for every tough decision and for being the first person to get fired if results are not good.
but hey, that does not make you an owner...
Damn straight ... does not have the same responsibility or risk.
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Damn straight ... does not have the same responsibility or risk.
Rat -
You have done the impossible! I've never seen such a string of posters supporting CBB!
He's right. You're wrong.
Pick on him abut something else. Like Tom Crean.
Or Hitler (moves me into a tie with Keefe!)
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Damn straight ... does not have the same responsibility or risk.
yeah, that's why I guess the average small business owners typically makes way less than an exec "owning" a $2.8B business unit by probably an order of magnitude...
but the responsibility of that yogurt shop is staggering...
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Year end close? Or a badly needed respite aboard the Panty Dropper?
Neither, though the second one sounds good.
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Ur a classic... I guess u take a non traditional approach to definitions. Now you have "ownership".
Lol
Its fine i just like how some people like to throw out terms that they really have no clue about.
You sound like a "real" businessman ::)
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Jams
I thought your job there at DTV was to post on Scoop
I always assumed it was screwing those round thingies to houses.
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Neither, though the second one sounds good.
Always, always, always take time to share with your bride, Jams.
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Just like keefe said, "Ownership" = "responsibility". This is not some sort of word game Chicos is playing. He is just using the words that his company (and many many others) uses for his responsibility over his part of the company's business. You're picking a really terrible fight here.
I'm enjoying it, let him keep digging on this one. I'm glad everyone else understood it for exactly what it was. I've committed his crime before, not pulling out when in the steep dive. Good to see someone else doing it instead.
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I've committed his crime before, not pulling out when in the steep dive.
Cue Keefe Air Force story or d*ck joke in 3. 2. 1...
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This was one of the dumber arguments I've ever read on scoop. Rat, you are just wrong in this case. If all these scoopers are supporting Chicos, he must be right.
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I may be old fashioned and dont live in LA or NYC. Its been 20 years since businss school so i dont know what they are teaching people or the lingo of todays consultants. I have also run multi million dollar companys with hundreds of employees and never felt i "owned" it, committed yes, dedicated yes, paticipated in profits n bonuses yes, "owned" never. U can use whatever lingo of the day you want, but if u cant sell it u sure as fook dont "own" it!
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Cue Keefe Air Force story or d*ck joke in 3. 2. 1...
Maybe Rat is a Kamikaze, no desire to pull out of the dive on this one. That's my guess.
Well, that or he's just looking for anything I say for a chance to pounce and just didn't do a good job on this one.
I was a, was a kamikaze pilot
They gave me a plane, I couldn't fly it home
Taught how to take off, I don't know how to land
They say it doesn't matter and I just cannot understand
I was a kamikaze pilot
They gave me a plane, I couldn't fly it home
Left my happy homeland in a zero
I got engine trouble so I couldn't be a hero
(Do you think I care?)
Now I'll keep my two feet on the ground
'Cause when you're in the clouds
Everybody tries to shoot you down
I was a kamikaze pilot
They gave me a plane, I couldn't fly it home
On an island there ain't too much to do
Look after number one 'cause I think I can see
Lee Marvin chasin' after you
I was a kamikaze pilot
They gave me a plane, I couldn't fly it home
Cherry blossoms falling down
Hoodoo Gurus - I Was A Kamikaze Pilot Lyrics | MetroLyrics
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I may be old fashioned and dont live in LA or NYC. Its been 20 years since businss school so i dont know what they are teaching people or the lingo of todays consultants. I have also run multi million dollar companys with hundreds of employees and never felt i "owned" it, committed yes, dedicated yes, paticipated in profits n bonuses yes, "owned" never. U can use whatever lingo of the day you want, but if u cant sell it u sure as fook dont "own" it!
I worked in Kenosha (hardly the "big city") for a medium-size company (approx. $1B a year) and it was the same as with Chico's. Pretty standard in corporate America.
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I worked in Kenosha (hardly the "big city") for a medium-size company (approx. $1B a year) and it was the same as with Chico's. Pretty standard in corporate America.
man, x, I thought you were a hippie dude doin' your own thing in your own time??!! The thought of you wage slavin' it for the Capitalist Pigs is disheartening...
(http://filmgrab.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/22-hippie.png)
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man, x, I thought you were a hippie dude doin' your own thing in your own time??!! The thought of you wage slavin' it for the Capitalist Pigs is disheartening...
(http://filmgrab.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/22-hippie.png)
Kinda like Al Gore flyin' around in his private jet. :-\ Must've been workin' with the models that kept me interested.
But that's old history. Now I just try to get away to liberal havens like Asheville, NC or Eureka Springs, AR or Austin, TX to wash away the guilt.
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Kinda like Al Gore flyin' around in his private jet. :-\ Must've been workin' with the models that kept me interested.
But that's old history. Now I just try to get away to liberal havens like Asheville, NC or Eureka Springs, AR or Austin, TX to wash away the guilt.
Asheville is an amazing town, full of great beer and music.
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Asheville is an amazing town, full of great beer and music.
Agree. I used to go there often for work as my company's warehouse was located there. Vermont squeezed all into one city in the South.
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Asheville, NC or Eureka Springs, AR or Austin, TX
What? No Black Rock City?
(http://www.deepbottle.com/img/Fun/the-dust-storm-burning-man-2010/the-dust-storm-burning-man-2010-265.jpg)
(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1443608.1378145512!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/gallery_1200/burning-man-festival-2013.jpg)
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Kinda like Al Gore flyin' around in his private jet. :-\ Must've been workin' with the models that kept me interested.
But that's old history. Now I just try to get away to liberal havens like Asheville, NC or Eureka Springs, AR or Austin, TX to wash away the guilt.
Like Tim Tebow?