MU Lacrosse Recruit loses scholly over racist Instagram post.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

It's not their job or responsibility.   

Exactly.

[Its DJOver]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2894750-aleksandar-katai-to-discuss-wife-teas-violent-anti-protest-posts-with-la-galaxy

Similar but not identical situation.  Would you fire someone because of something that their spouse says, especially if the non-offending spouse condemns those comments as "unacceptable"?

[Lennys Tap]

I wish that I could believe it would help.

Unfortunately, "conversations" with bigots are nonproductive.

I have been somewhat successful with people who have had no first hand experience with the black culture, but hard-core bigots are unreachable.

The die is cast at a young age and me thinking that I can change beliefs is delusional.

You’re right that you (or I) won’t change many minds. We’re both old and most of our peers are pretty well entrenched in whatever belief system they’ve chosen.

But I’m not nearly as pessimistic when it comes to 17 year old kids. I knew plenty who walked out of Marquette with different viewpoints than they walked in with.

You’re old, and it’s not uncommon for the aged to be tired and fatalistic. But change happens. My kids and their friends are creating a More fair world than we did. I expect my grandchildren to pick up where they leave off. I’m optimistic.

[Golden Avalanche]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2894750-aleksandar-katai-to-discuss-wife-teas-violent-anti-protest-posts-with-la-galaxy

Similar but not identical situation.  Would you fire someone because of something that their spouse says, especially if the non-offending spouse condemns those comments as "unacceptable"?

Homicidal comments aren't exactly a run-of-the-mill controversy. In a sport trying to grow into a top four spot, the extreme uniqueness of her thoughts was always going to result in extreme consequences for him. 

[vogue65]

You’re right that you (or I) won’t change many minds. We’re both old and most of our peers are pretty well entrenched in whatever belief system they’ve chosen.

But I’m not nearly as pessimistic when it comes to 17 year old kids. I knew plenty who walked out of Marquette with different viewpoints than they walked in with.

You’re old, and it’s not uncommon for the aged to be tired and fatalistic. But change happens. My kids and their friends are creating a More fair world than we did. I expect my grandchildren to pick up where they leave off. I’m optimistic.

Thanks, I'll work on my attitude.

[Billy Hoyle]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2894750-aleksandar-katai-to-discuss-wife-teas-violent-anti-protest-posts-with-la-galaxy

Similar but not identical situation.  Would you fire someone because of something that their spouse says, especially if the non-offending spouse condemns those comments as "unacceptable"?

I wouldn’t. But he’s not that good and overpaid so it’s good PR.

I also have a problem with disciplining someone for something said in private seven years prior provided there is no proof of subsequent comments or actions: https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29272833/utah-suspends-dc-morgan-scalley-texting-racial-slur-2013

I’m not embarrassed to say that I abhor things I was taught to believe from my parents, teachers, coaches and other “role models” as as kid. Racial slurs weren’t frowned upon where I grew up. If I hadn’t learned and changed through experience, MU being the center of that, I wouldn’t do what I do for a living or be married to whom I am married. People grow over time.

Now, the LAX girl believes that stuff NOW, so I’m good with MU’s decision, But seven years in the past, or what you’re spouse says? That’s taking things too far, IMO, provided there’s a documented pattern of change.

[Lennys Tap]

Thanks, I'll work on my attitude.

You’re welcome. Good luck!

[shoothoops]

One could very reasonably say, MU falls in line with some of its league peers in this regard, w/Georgetown being a big exception. GU is a 50% white place vs 70% plus at MU and some of the others. The breakdowns very where Xavier will more than double the black population of MU but not so in other minority demographics, etc...

But I would prefer MU to lead from the front. My next example may be considered apples to oranges, but play along a bit to see the bigger point. Vanderbilt has become a dramatically more diverse play in a variety of ways, race, geography, etc...and, it has been intentional. Some of that came from its recent Chancellor Nick Zeppos, a Milwaukee native, and two degree Madison person. It's a 50% white place now, and its students are more evenly geographically distributed from all regions of the country.

 I am linking a brief piece from 2014 from Tim Corbin, the baseball coach at Vandy. His approach is similar to some of the other non revenue sports there. For them, diversity is intentional. And, success came in the way of three appearances in College World Series Finals and two National Titles. His protege has been doing the same at Michigan, a Finalist last year. Racial, geographic, religious diversity, etc...is intentional, and prioritized.

https://vucommodores.com/diamond-diversity-tim-corbin-s-squad-contains-talent-from-all-backgrounds/

Another big thing that stands out for me is 73% from either Wisconsin or Illinois. That's a lot. I hope MU intentionally makes an effort to increase its geographic diversity as well.

I'm aware enough that these things are not of interest or importance to some. Hopefully these are important to MU.

Diversity is intentional:

https://twitter.com/AmandiOnAir/status/1270361553968205827?s=19

[Herman Cain]

Perhaps I'm about to get shot for this, but I'm not sure I agree with what the university did.

It's a two faceted argument. Yes, her comments were inappropriate, insulting and perceived to be racist. She was wrong for uttering them. As others have pointed out, putting comments like those the young woman made on social media is doubly absurd because they last forever.

Who among has not been offensive to others? Who among us has not uttered comments for which we will be held accountable at our final judgment (if not sooner)?

But part of going to college is learning and growing up. Part of what makes Marquette special is the ability to care for the person. Forgiveness is a virtue both our faith and our university advocate. In that vein, if the young woman recognizes she acted inappropriately, should we not be setting an example of forgiveness? That's the Jesuit way and last time I checked, Marquette is a Jesuit university.

Over the years, we've had people attend Marquette whose attitudes was truly un-Catholic and un-Christian. Yet as a community of diversity, we lead and we learn. By that, we grow and we discover right from wrong. Our exposure to people of different backgrounds, beliefs and cultures enlightens us. We have reinforced the concepts of consideration and inclusiveness.

Wherever the young woman ends up, I hope she learns and I trust her mistaken, offensive comments are a youthful indiscretion never to be repeated.

Ordinarily I would agree with your analysis.  The specifics of this case lead me not to.

The experience I had with my kids was after they committed to their respective schools, was that their future coaches told them and their fellow recruits to stop posting anything inflammatory on social media. The coaches told the kids that the university had hired specialists in internet scrubbing , for lack of a better word, to investigate everyone's postings past and present . The funny thing is there was still one of two knuckleheads who still didn't get the message and a couple of them got booted before they enrolled. Also ,most select team , club  and high school coaches give their kids a similar message.

Once the kids enrolled in school, just to show they weren't kidding around the schools met with every kid and showed them the  slightly embarrassing stuff they had posted (mostly party related)

So basically this young woman wasn't paying attention and just went ahead and did her own thing.  In my view it not as if she was given the ground rules. She knew she was a de facto representative of MU even though she hadn't yet enrolled. So really an unforced error of her own creation.

I read she was a goalie, so most likely some lower tier school will tell her if you can get admitted on your own , they will take her on the team.  Good goalies, in team sports with that position, are very hard to find.  So she will get a chance eventually and the redemption will come somewhere else. She will also find a school environment where she is more comfortable.