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DWade and Team Trinity
« on: July 09, 2010, 02:05:05 AM »
I don't know how much this will mean for Marquette, but it sure will be fun as a Marquette fan to watch DWade be in at least the East finals every year. The Heat are perfectly positioned to become the next global NBA franchise, joining the Lakers, Celtics, and (maybe) the Bulls. That a famous Marquette star will be at worst 1a on that team can only be a positive for Marquette. Im glad we will be seeing DWade in more big games than recent years, and that casual fans will be reminded what an amazing, exciting player he is.

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Re: DWade and Team Trinity
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2010, 07:32:39 AM »
I suppose, but I think the Heat might also be the most hated team in the NBA after this.  It's going to look especially bad for them if they don't win a championship or two, and they better get a great spot-up shooter, a point guard and a good interior defender/rebounder to round out the roster if they want to do that.
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Re: DWade and Team Trinity
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2010, 07:36:49 AM »
I am not at all convinced that this is going to work out for the Heat they way they think it is.  I'm not convinced they will win a ring.  Maybe wishful thinking as a spurned Cavs fan, and I may well eat these words.
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Re: DWade and Team Trinity
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2010, 07:47:22 AM »
Outside of the top 3, that roster is awful.

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Re: DWade and Team Trinity
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2010, 07:47:36 AM »
I am not at all convinced that this is going to work out for the Heat they way they think it is.  I'm not convinced they will win a ring.  Maybe wishful thinking as a spurned Cavs fan, and I may well eat these words.

Meh, Lebron gave you guys 7 years.  That's more than any Ohio team deserves from a great player. 

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Re: DWade and Team Trinity
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2010, 07:56:25 AM »
Outside of the top 3, that roster is awful.
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What roster??? 
  Officially the entire roster at this moment is Mario Chalmers; and DWade if he's signed the paperwork.
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Re: DWade and Team Trinity
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2010, 08:05:19 AM »
This will be fun to watch.  From an MU perspective, DWade will get a good share of the praise when they win but James will take almost all of the heat if they lose.  Hopefully we can get some good Marquette mentions, especially in games against Doc.  Very, very beatable team tho.

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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2010, 08:10:35 AM »
Outside of the top 3, that roster is awful.
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What roster??? 
  Officially the entire roster at this moment is Mario Chalmers; and DWade if he's signed the paperwork.

Yeah, they'll have 4 guys under contract....but I'll take those 4 over any other 4 in the league.

Maybe Deiner and Novak will end up on the squad, they need minimum guys who can shoot.

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Re: DWade and Team Trinity
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2010, 08:22:08 AM »
Diener can't shoot.  His career NBA FG% is under 40.

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Re: DWade and Team Trinity
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2010, 08:25:25 AM »
Diener can't shoot.  His career NBA FG% is under 40.

And his career 3P% would have been in the neighborhood of 85th best in the league last year.
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Re: DWade and Team Trinity
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2010, 08:29:57 AM »
Diener can't shoot.  His career NBA FG% is under 40.

There are a TON of players in the NBA who'd see their FG% increase dramatically if they were taking primarily wide-open shots. Just ask Steve Kerr.

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Re: DWade and Team Trinity
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2010, 08:37:14 AM »
I suppose, but I think the Heat might also be the most hated team in the NBA after this.  It's going to look especially bad for them if they don't win a championship or two, and they better get a great spot-up shooter, a point guard and a good interior defender/rebounder to round out the roster if they want to do that.

Looks like they got Mike Miller for that.
From what they are saying down here, they can resign Joel Anthony for the interior defender, rebounder. Chalmers is a decent point gaurd.
If the draft picks pan out, they will be ok. If not....well, do they get another mid level exception next year?

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Re: DWade and Team Trinity
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2010, 08:40:10 AM »
Looks like they got Mike Miller for that.
From what they are saying down here, they can resign Joel Anthony for the interior defender, rebounder. Chalmers is a decent point gaurd.
If the draft picks pan out, they will be ok. If not....well, do they get another mid level exception next year?

I believe they can re-sign Haslem as well. He's a very good spot-up shooter from 15-18 feet.

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Re: DWade and Team Trinity
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2010, 08:42:10 AM »
Plenty of open looks should raise any role players shooting percentage.
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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2010, 08:43:54 AM »
I believe they can re-sign Haslem as well. He's a very good spot-up shooter from 15-18 feet.


With what money? He made $7 million last year, and there's a lockout coming next summer.
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Re: DWade and Team Trinity
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2010, 08:44:09 AM »
There are a TON of players in the NBA who'd see their FG% increase dramatically if they were taking primarily wide-open shots. Just ask Steve Kerr.


http://www.nba.com/playerfile/steve_kerr/index.html

Kerr did not see his percentage increase in his years with Michael, Scottie, Robinson, and Duncan.  His best year was the 95 Bulls when MJ only played 20% of the games.  He also shot a very high percentage in Clevelanded  before getting to the championship teams he played on.

There is a HUGE misperception about role players.  They do matter.  People will understand this next May when the Heat get bounced in the Eastern playoffs.

Heat are not going to be able to find skilled players like Kerr, Longley, Wennington, Harper, etc.  They will have the Big 3, Mike Miller maybe, and that is it.  They have four skilled wingplayers.  They need more years of stacking up midlevel players.  They will eventually win it, but not until they get their midlevels and draft picks in.

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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2010, 08:45:05 AM »
There are a TON of players in the NBA who'd see their FG% increase dramatically if they were taking primarily wide-open shots. Just ask Steve Kerr.


I agree.  But Travis Diener simply isn't a good shooter.  Love the guy, but he's never been a consistent enough outside shooter.

Steve Kerr was on some bad teams, but only finished below with a below 40% FG percentage once in a 17 year career.  And he was on some bad teams during that career.

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Re: DWade and Team Trinity
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2010, 08:46:26 AM »
Yeah, they'll have 4 guys under contract....but I'll take those 4 over any other 4 in the league.

Maybe Deiner and Novak will end up on the squad, they need minimum guys who can shoot.

You'd take those four over any four in the league? Really? I'd much sooner have, say, Chris Paul at the point than Mario Chalmers, or from a long-term perspective, Derrick Rose ;)

I agree with the Heat starting like gangbusters and then coming back to reality. Especially since there's really no one left to play the center position. I expect Bosh will be forced to the five, which will leave them woefully undermanned up front. And when the big three need rest, teams will have time to come back on them.

Read an article about the best threesomes the other day, it ranked these three around 4th or 5th in recent NBA history, and noted that of the top threesomes, only the Jordan Bulls managed to win any titles. I think the Heat have plenty of title potential, but I don't think they'll be able to get past the Celtics, Magic, or Lakers yet without a more complete roster.

But apparently, Vegas likes the Heat...

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/08/vegas-heat-the-favorite-for-nba-title/?ncid=txtlnkusspor00000002
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« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2010, 08:51:45 AM »


Read an article about the best threesomes the other day, it ranked these three around 4th or 5th in recent NBA history, and noted that of the top threesomes, only the Jordan Bulls managed to win any titles.



Magic, Worthy, and Kareem did not make the list?  I always considered them the best threesome of all time.  Those two Bulls threepeat teams are two of the better teams of all time, but isolating 3 players I would put the 3 Lakers players in the 80s up there.  The new Heat trio cannot match Magic, Worthy, and Kareem because Chris Bosh is sooooo overrated. 

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« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2010, 08:52:10 AM »

There is a HUGE misperception about role players.  They do matter.  People will understand this next May when the Heat get bounced in the Eastern playoffs.

If they make the playoffs.  Wade's never been healthy for three seasons in a row in the NBA.
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Re: DWade and Team Trinity
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2010, 08:55:54 AM »
This will be a great Christmas day game with the Lakers but I don't know if they have enough to get out of the East. thye still have to get by Boston and Orlando.

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« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2010, 09:04:23 AM »
You'd take those four over any four in the league? Really? I'd much sooner have, say, Chris Paul at the point than Mario Chalmers, or from a long-term perspective, Derrick Rose ;)

I agree with the Heat starting like gangbusters and then coming back to reality.


Even during games...they'll win a lot of first quarters, but not a lot of second quarters.

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« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2010, 09:07:10 AM »
Magic, Worthy, and Kareem did not make the list?  I always considered them the best threesome of all time.  Those two Bulls threepeat teams are two of the better teams of all time, but isolating 3 players I would put the 3 Lakers players in the 80s up there.  The new Heat trio cannot match Magic, Worthy, and Kareem because Chris Bosh is sooooo overrated. 

They didn't, but as I think of it, it may have been the past 25 years, or even 20. And of course, now that I want to find it, I can't locate it anywhere  ?-(

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« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2010, 09:09:00 AM »
This will be a great Christmas day game with the Lakers but I don't know if they have enough to get out of the East. thye still have to get by Boston and Orlando.

And Chicago and Milwaukee.  And they have to survive at least one regular season trip to Cleveland.
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