2023-24 NBA Thread

[WhiteTrash]

Maybe it is too small of a sample size to make a conclusion, but the Bulls look like a decent team without LaVine. Like maybe a .500ish team that could get a 9 or 10 seed. Does that hurt his trade value (that was not very good before he sat)?

[Jockey]

Maybe it is too small of a sample size to make a conclusion, but the Bulls look like a decent team without LaVine. Like maybe a .500ish team that could get a 9 or 10 seed. Does that hurt his trade value (that was not very good before he sat)?

Lavine is one of the most overrated players in the NBA. A high volume gunner who doesn’t fit into a team game and an uninterested defensive player.


Trade value? Ain’t gonna be what you’d expect for a “star” player. No where near a Brad Beal type return.

[WhiteTrash]

Lavine is one of the most overrated players in the NBA. A high volume gunner who doesn’t fit into a team game and an uninterested defensive player.


Trade value? Ain’t gonna be what you’d expect for a “star” player. No where near a Brad Beal type return.

Sounds like the rest of the NBA sees it the way you do. The Bull's FO is truly delusional. They kept this team together because the think it is NBA Championship capable. 

[Jockey]

"Kerr has had enough"?  WTH are you basing this on?  After the game he stated twice "we need Draymond".  This is the same guy who has placated him after every outburst until the Golbert choke where essentially he was forced to take back his original comments. 

Kerr and Golden State management/ownership have exacerbated this entire situation exponentially.  They are part of the freaking problem by treating Green like a coddled 5 year old.  Now maybe, because his game and antics are hurting the team, and the NBA is sorta stepping in, Golden State will decide they have had enough of this clown but who knows?  And as far as the indefinite suspension we should all remember that Ja Morant got one of those, took some anger classes or whatever, and the NBA decided to give him 8 games.

 Clueless. Kerr fully supports an indefinite suspension.

[MuggsyB]

Clueless. Kerr fully supports an indefinite suspension.

Uhhhh....no.  He's forced to "support" a suspension.  Remember this is the same guy who literally did nothing when he punched Jordan Poole in the face.  He rewarded him by allowing him to attend the ring ceremony.  If you don't think Kerr and the Warriors organization has coddled Green and his behavior you're struggling with basic observation skills. 

[Uncle Rico]

Uhhhh....no.  He's forced to "support" a suspension.  Remember this is the same guy who literally did nothing when he punched Jordan Poole in the face.  He rewarded him by allowing him to attend the ring ceremony.  If you don't think Kerr and the Warriors organization has coddled Green and his behavior you're struggling with basic observation skills.

I love Steve Kerr.  Great coach, better person

[WhiteTrash]

Uhhhh....no.  He's forced to "support" a suspension.  Remember this is the same guy who literally did nothing when he punched Jordan Poole in the face.  He rewarded him by allowing him to attend the ring ceremony.  If you don't think Kerr and the Warriors organization has coddled Green and his behavior you're struggling with basic observation skills.

This seems to be the overwhelming consensus of those who cover the NBA.

Does Kerr 'care' about Draymond's wellbeing? No, he only cares to the extent he wins games. Been demonstrated by him multiple times. BUT, that is not Kerr's job. He is not his family or friend. Kerr is there to win games and not to look out for a player's wellbeing.

 

[MuggsyB]

This seems to be the overwhelming consensus of those who cover the NBA.

Does Kerr 'care' about Draymond's wellbeing? No, he only cares to the extent he wins games. Been demonstrated by him multiple times. BUT, that is not Kerr's job. He is not his family or friend. Kerr is there to win games and not to look out for a player's wellbeing.

I think that's fair. 

[lawdog77]

This seems to be the overwhelming consensus of those who cover the NBA.

Does Kerr 'care' about Draymond's wellbeing? No, he only cares to the extent he wins games. Been demonstrated by him multiple times. BUT, that is not Kerr's job. He is not his family or friend. Kerr is there to win games and not to look out for a player's wellbeing.

Technically, Kerr is there to make the owner as much money as possible. Usually, that means winning games, but not always.

[WhiteTrash]

Technically, Kerr is there to make the owner as much money as possible. Usually, that means winning games, but not always.

That's not the way it works. Organizations (for-profit) are there to make money, each position performs to the highest level within their responsibilities to get the desired outcome. Unless Steve is the CEO, he is charged with winning games. Other qualified people focus on sales, finance, HR, etc. that should all add to the bottom line.

[lawdog77]

That's not the way it works. Organizations (for-profit) are there to make money, each position performs to the highest level within their responsibilities to get the desired outcome. Unless Steve is the CEO, he is charged with winning games. Other qualified people focus on sales, finance, HR, etc. that should all add to the bottom line.

So Kerr could.be a mass murderer, as long as they win games, he stays?

[WhiteTrash]

So Kerr could.be a mass murderer, as long as they win games, he stays?

Okay, this is getting weird.

[GB Warrior]

So Kerr could.be a mass murderer, as long as they win games, he stays?

If the money spending public is on his side, yeah probably

[lawdog77]

Okay, this is getting weird.

Well you did say Kerr's sole job is to win games. I am saying its more than that.

[WhiteTrash]

Well you did say Kerr's sole job is to win games. I am saying its more than that.

LOL! Ok I'll play along.

Kerr's responsibilities:
1. wake up every morning
2. eat breakfast
3. drive safely to work
4. pay taxes
5. wear pants on the sideline
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[cheebs09]

I think Kerr has tried to downplay/excuse Draymond's behavior in the past to try and squeeze every ounce out of this core he can. I don't think he wants to alienate Draymond and kick off the rebuild.

Draymond has just started ramping it up to the point you can't really turn a blind eye anymore. At least that's my opinion.

[MU82]

I love Steve Kerr.  Great coach, better person

He actually is a real good guy.

But he certainly enabled Green's behavior over the years, and now the organization is kind of screwed -- not only because of Draymond's issues but because everybody who matters is 106 years old. The Warriors are the early-'90s Celtics ... except maybe not quite as good.

[MuggsyB]

OKC is for real.  Maybe Minny is too but this Thunder team could be really scary the next few years. I'm not sure what they'll do with Giddey, but to have three players under 25 this good is amazing.  And they can play on both ends of the floor.  Holmgren had 9 blocks tonight.  I'm sure Wemby will get ROY but you could make a legitimate argument that Holmgren has been better to this point. 

[PGsHeroes32]

OKC is for real.  Maybe Minny is too but this Thunder team could be really scary the next few years. I'm not sure what they'll do with Giddey, but to have three players under 25 this good is amazing.  And they can play on both ends of the floor.  Holmgren had 9 blocks tonight.  I'm sure Wemby will get ROY but you could make a legitimate argument that Holmgren has been better to this point.

Ive watched like 5% of NBA games so far and can say definitively the Wolves are better than the thunder this year

[Uncle Rico]

OKC is for real.  Maybe Minny is too but this Thunder team could be really scary the next few years. I'm not sure what they'll do with Giddey, but to have three players under 25 this good is amazing.  And they can play on both ends of the floor.  Holmgren had 9 blocks tonight.  I'm sure Wemby will get ROY but you could make a legitimate argument that Holmgren has been better to this point.

I don’t think it’s illegal in Oklahoma to date minors.  It’s a pretty conservative Christian state

[Jockey]

Ive watched like 5% of NBA games so far and can say definitively the Wolves are better than the thunder this year

Give it a week or two and you’ll be calling for the coach to be fired and a couple starters to be cut. 

[MuggsyB]

I don’t think it’s illegal in Oklahoma to date minors.  It’s a pretty conservative Christian state

I think the minor was in Los Angeles.

[PGsHeroes32]

Give it a week or two and you’ll be calling for the coach to be fired and a couple starters to be cut. 

Ive actually met Finch good dude

[Herman Cain]

He's a member of a protected class, so a minor slap is nothin'. Plus, the NBA is a media whore and any news that keeps it in the forefront, is good news. As for Green, suspend him for the remainder of the season and sentence him to anger management classes with volunteer work in a homeless shelter and food pantry. GS, if they any balls, would peddle his ass. Nurkic should press assault and battery charges, hey?

I agree with this analysis

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

https://twitter.com/Stoltzy3/status/1736574233717657843?t=Ezc5CtyzVSKKLjsl29_OuA&s=19

Well played Bucks, well played