COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")

[MU82]

It could have been stopped. I was in the Bucky student section when they beat Penn State go to the Rose Bowl. Once it became obvious they were going to win security swarmed the area - every aisle of the student section and in front of it. Nobody rushed the field. Here, we're talking about ND, a school that already shut down due to COVID and whose President tested positive after the ACB superspreader event, drawing the ire of students. This one is on the administration.

Then that's what they should have done. Not doing so was a dereliction of duty. Then again, maybe their leaders were trapped in the previous half-century and figured, "We're Notre Dame. We don't storm the field when we win. We're supposed to win."

Yep. Between Trump golfing nonstop and Pence escaping to Sanibel, it's business as usual in this Administration. Nothing but bluster and hyperbole.

Jared declared victory over the coronavirus in late-April, shortly after his sugar daddy twitted to "LIBERATE!" 3 states that were nowhere near having met the guidelines that Trump himself had promoted. Since then, he and his criminally negiligent crew have rarely even pretended to care about it.

[mu_hilltopper]

This guy .. he's full of Arby's.

https://twitter.com/davidluhnow/status/1326296785413828609

"Bolsonaro, today: "I am sorry about the (Covid) deaths. I am .... But we are all going to die someday ... We have to stop being a country of sissies.""

[pbiflyer]

Mea culpa

No worries.  I am just thankful I didn't get the ban hammer for making fun of Arby's. 

[MU82]

Desperate shortage of nurses in many states that are now getting overwhelmed by COVID-19 after pretending the virus didn't exist.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/10/world/covid-19-coronavirus-live-updates?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20201110&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=headline&regi_id=108420427&segment_id=44168&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa#us-hospitalizations-reach-a-record-high-as-medical-facilities-are-under-strain

Covid-19 hospitalizations in the United States hit an all-time high of 61,964 on Tuesday, as the raging pandemic continued to shatter record after record and strain medical facilities.

The number of people hospitalized with the coronavirus, tallied by the Covid Tracking Project, has more than doubled since September, and now exceeds the peak reached early in the pandemic, when 59,940 hospitalized patients were reported on April 15. A second peak in the summer fell just short of matching that record, with 59,718 hospitalizations on July 23.

Those spikes in April and July lasted only a few days and quickly subsided, but as winter approaches experts do not expect that this time. New cases are setting records in much of the United States, and rates of hospitalizations and deaths are following them upward.

The United States surpassed 10 million known cases on Sunday, and is averaging more than 111,000 new cases a day, a record.

While the number of patients continues to climb, a shortage of nurses and other medical personnel is limiting the ability to add more hospital beds to care for them.

The critical staff shortage, especially in Western states that struggle to attract doctors and other medical workers even in the best of times, is causing growing alarm, and driving some places to take extraordinary measures.

Gov. Douglas J. Burgum of North Dakota, which has the worst infection and death rates per person in the country, announced on Monday that health care workers who have tested positive but have no symptoms could continue to work in hospitals and nursing homes under certain restrictions, including that they treat only Covid-19 patients.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s guidelines allow the use of asymptomatic personnel during severe staff shortages. Mr. Burgum said his state was about two or three weeks away from facing “severe constraints” in hospital capacity.

[GooooMarquette]

Just a staggering number of people hospitalized, and yet newly diagnosed cases are still increasing daily. This is going to get much worse before it gets better.

[Jockey]

Just a staggering number of people hospitalized, and yet newly diagnosed cases are still increasing daily. This is going to get much worse before it gets better.

Deaths follow hospitalizations.

[Mutaman]

It could have been stopped. I was in the Bucky student section when they beat Penn State go to the Rose Bowl. Once it became obvious they were going to win security swarmed the area - every aisle of the student section and in front of it. Nobody rushed the field. Here, we're talking about ND, a school that already shut down due to COVID and whose President tested positive after the ACB superspreader event, drawing the ire of students. This one is on the administration.

You sat in the badger student section! Hell I once posted something on a Badger board and Chicos (after determining this through exhaustive detective work) must have sent out 10 posts attacking me for it. Wait till he hears about you.

[MU82]

Well, we apparently are in the midst of a Sweden-like experiment right here in the U.S. of A. ...

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/site-services/newsletters/business-nl/article246877562.html?ac_cid=DM321173&ac_bid=-1473003205

Can Florida return to life as normal without containing the spread of the novel coronavirus?

The answer from Gov. Ron DeSantis is an emphatic yes. And, whether Floridians know it or not, he is pursuing a policy that will allow the virus to spread freely in the state until most of the population becomes infected — or is vaccinated with a yet-to-be obtained vaccine — while attempting to protect those thought to be most vulnerable.

Two months after a deadly summer surge and months before a realistic goal to begin rolling out a vaccine, the governor issued an order that opened up nearly every part of commerce, ended restrictions on restaurant dining, and barred local governments from enforcing mask mandates and social-distancing rules.

He has since spent more time and commanded more media attention to his “open-everything” policy than on encouraging people to prevent contagion. It is the same policy advanced by Scott Atlas, the controversial White House coronavirus adviser who does not have a background in infectious diseases.

It is also an approach that has made DeSantis the target of fierce criticism from Democrats who accuse him of pursuing a controversial and deadly “herd immunity” strategy, as well as from scientists, who usually use more diplomatic language.

[Warriors4ever]

He’s doing less than Sweden, actually. 
And Dr.Murphy from Northwestern said on WGN a few weeks ago that ‘they cheat’ when asked about their numbers. Can’t trust them.

[pbiflyer]

He’s doing less than Sweden, actually. 
And Dr.Murphy from Northwestern said on WGN a few weeks ago that ‘they cheat’ when asked about their numbers. Can’t trust them.

Impossible. We have hired only the best and brightest to report those numbers!

Florida governor hires conspiracy theorist sports blogger and Uber driver to conduct data research into COVID-19 - despite history of tweets downplaying virus
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8936093/Uber-driver-crackpot-Ohio-sports-blogger-hired-Florida-Governors-office.html

[MU82]

He’s doing less than Sweden, actually. 
And Dr.Murphy from Northwestern said on WGN a few weeks ago that ‘they cheat’ when asked about their numbers. Can’t trust them.

They are the China of America, and DeSantis is our Xi.

[Warriors4ever]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54895871

Ireland sees a significant decrease in the infection rate, in the middle of a six-week lockdown.

[Warriors4ever]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-03/sweden-adds-restrictions-amid-very-serious-covid-resurgence

And this is from a week ago, to dispel the notion that Sweden is doing no mitigation, and also discusses the current rise in infections. Not mentioned in the article is the actual limit of eight people to a group in restaurants.

[GooooMarquette]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-03/sweden-adds-restrictions-amid-very-serious-covid-resurgence

And this is from a week ago, to dispel the notion that Sweden is doing no mitigation, and also discusses the current rise in infections. Not mentioned in the article is the actual limit of eight people to a group in restaurants.

I don't think anyone has said Sweden had done 'no mitigation.' But what they have done is minimal - certainly never a lockdown - and in many cases 'voluntary.' From the article:

At no point since the pandemic started has Sweden imposed a lockdown, relying instead on voluntary social distancing. That’s led to higher infection and mortality rates than in the rest of the Nordic region, but with few signs so far that Sweden has developed herd immunity.

[Jockey]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54895871

Ireland sees a significant decrease in the infection rate, in the middle of a six-week lockdown.

Can't happen here though. This is America. We demand our "freedoms".

[Warriors4ever]

Interestingly, apparently Sweden’s constitution guarantees freedom of movement, which it was felt prohibited a lockdown. Also, apparently it provides that the politicians do not direct the response, but all recommendations come from the relevant agency. They did move secondary schools and universities to remote learning.
And in some areas they are moving towards more restrictions now, as their numbers are climbing.
Not necessarily here, but I have seen in other internet postings the belief that Sweden took no action at all, and that everything is fine.

[shoothoops]

CDC has added some info regarding the benefit of wearing a mask for the person wearing it when exposed to high risk environments.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/masking-science-sars-cov2.html

[GooooMarquette]

Interestingly, apparently Sweden’s constitution guarantees freedom of movement, which it was felt prohibited a lockdown. Also, apparently it provides that the politicians do not direct the response, but all recommendations come from the relevant agency. They did move secondary schools and universities to remote learning.
And in some areas they are moving towards more restrictions now, as their numbers are climbing.
Not necessarily here, but I have seen in other internet postings the belief that Sweden took no action at all, and that everything is fine.

The US Supreme Court has long held that freedom of movement within the US (including travel between the states) is guaranteed by the 'Privileges and Immunities Clause' of our Constitution. Still, like most Constitutional guarantees, reasonable restrictions have been placed on that movement in extreme circumstances.

I'm not the least bit familiar with Swedish law, so I can't say how valid the Constitutional concern was, or whether a pandemic-related restriction would have been lawful. I would be concerned, however, if the guarantee is so absolute that officials couldn't respond to a worldwide health crisis without amending their Constitution. Anyhow, I guess that's a debate for Swedish legal scholars and public health officials.

[mu_hilltopper]

Total US #COVID cases

1 million to 2 M- 44 days
2 million to 3 M- 27 days
3 million to 4 M- 15 days
4 million to 5 M - 17 days
5 million to 6 M - 22 days
6 million to 7 M - 25 days
7 million to 8 M - 21 days
8 million to 9 M - 14 days
9 million to 10M - 10 days

You'd think 10m to 11 - 7 days
11 to 12 - 4 days
12 to 13 -2 days

So .. by about Thanksgiving, we're hitting a million a day.   On the bright side, 90 days of that and 100 million people .. a third of the country.

[GooooMarquette]

Total US #COVID cases

1 million to 2 M- 44 days
2 million to 3 M- 27 days
3 million to 4 M- 15 days
4 million to 5 M - 17 days
5 million to 6 M - 22 days
6 million to 7 M - 25 days
7 million to 8 M - 21 days
8 million to 9 M - 14 days
9 million to 10M - 10 days

You'd think 10m to 11 - 7 days
11 to 12 - 4 days
12 to 13 -2 days

So .. by about Thanksgiving, we're hitting a million a day.   On the bright side, 90 days of that and 100 million people .. a third of the country.

I saw a graph somewhere the other day that showed our current hospitalizations (approximately 60,000 hospitalized) which estimated that by Christmas we will have about 230,000 people hospitalized. Once it starts going up, it goes up fast.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

I saw a graph somewhere the other day that showed our current hospitalizations (approximately 60,000 hospitalized) which estimated that by Christmas we will have about 230,000 people hospitalized. Once it starts going up, it goes up fast.

We have got to get this vaccine approved for our healthcare workers.  They will be the governor for successful care versus the worry about beds and ventilators in the spring.  Plus the mental toll has to be very high at this stage. 

I’m sitting here complaining about zoom fatigue and not eating in a restaurant.  I can’t even imagine how they feel.

[shoothoops]

The line at Dodger Stadium for a COVID-19 test:

https://twitter.com/jayberger/status/1326707135158210560?s=19

[rocky_warrior]

You'd think 10m to 11 - 7 days
11 to 12 - 4 days
12 to 13 -2 days

So .. by about Thanksgiving, we're hitting a million a day.   On the bright side, 90 days of that and 100 million people .. a third of the country.

[jesmu84]

Here in indianapolis, our city hospital has stopped elective surgeries again due to needed resources for covid.

IU health (largest health system in the state) has sent emails detailing anticipated protocols for possibly shortly needed changes for covid necessity including stopping elective surgeries again.

So, things are looking up!

[MU82]

Here in indianapolis, our city hospital has stopped elective surgeries again due to needed resources for covid.

IU health (largest health system in the state) has sent emails detailing anticipated protocols for possibly shortly needed changes for covid necessity including stopping elective surgeries again.

So, things are looking up!

Turning the corner.