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Author Topic: COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")  (Read 1129358 times)

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Re: COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")
« Reply #6775 on: June 23, 2020, 02:10:22 PM »
Arizona reports record single-day increase in coronavirus cases ahead of Trump’s visit

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/23/arizona-reports-record-single-day-increase-in-coronavirus-cases-ahead-of-trumps-visit.html

The Arizona Department of Health reported nearly 3,600 additional Covid-19 cases on Tuesday, another record in additional daily cases, ahead of President Donald Trump’s scheduled appearances later in the day.

Arizona is averaging about 2,500 daily new cases as of Monday, which is about a 94% increase since one week ago, according to a CNBC analysis of Johns Hopkins University data.

The coronavirus infected 3,593 people and killed an additional 42 people in Arizona since Monday, bringing the states’ death toll to 1,384, according to the state’s health department.

While the rise in daily case numbers could reflect a lag in data reporting or increased testing in certain locations throughout the state, Arizona’s positivity rate has increased from 5% in early May to nearly 20% in June, according to the state’s health department. Its current positivity rate average stands at more than 10%.



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Re: COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")
« Reply #6776 on: June 23, 2020, 02:15:06 PM »
I feel like we are living the movie the "Groundhog Day".

1. Virus hits Asia.  Europe thinks they are fine,  they get hit
2. Virus hits Europe.  US thinks they are fine,  Washington and NY get hit
3. Virus hits Washington and NY,  Midwest thinks they are fine,  Midwest gets hit.
4. Virus hits Midwest,  South & West think they are fine.....

At what point do leaders take responsibility when this movie plays OVER AND OVER again?

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Re: COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")
« Reply #6777 on: June 23, 2020, 02:21:32 PM »
EU is saying FU to the US ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/23/world/europe/coronavirus-EU-American-travel-ban.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20200623&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=headline&regi_id=108420427&segment_id=31652&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa

BRUSSELS — European Union countries rushing to revive their economies and reopen their borders after months of coronavirus restrictions are prepared to block Americans from entering because the United States has failed to control the scourge, according to draft lists of acceptable travelers seen by The New York Times.

That prospect, which would lump American visitors in with Russians and Brazilians as unwelcome, is a stinging blow to American prestige in the world and a repudiation of President Trump’s handling of the virus in the United States, which has more than 2.3 million cases and upward of 120,000 deaths, more than any other country.

European nations are currently haggling over two potential lists of acceptable visitors based on how countries are faring with the coronavirus pandemic. Both include China, as well as developing nations like Uganda, Cuba and Vietnam.

Travelers from the United States and the rest of the world have been excluded from visiting the European Union — with few exceptions mostly for repatriations or “essential travel” —- since mid-March. But a final decision on reopening the borders is expected early next week, before the bloc reopens on July 1.

A prohibition of Americans  by Brussels partly reflects the shifting pattern of the pandemic.  In March, when Europe was the epicenter, Mr. Trump infuriated European leaders when he banned citizens from most European Union countries from traveling to America. Mr. Trump justified the move as necessary to protect the United States, which at the time had roughly 1,100 coronavirus cases and 38 deaths.

In late May and early June, Mr. Trump said Europe was “making progress” and hinted that some restrictions would be lifted soon, but nothing has happened since then. Today, Europe has largely curbed the outbreak, even as the United States, the worst-afflicted, has seen more infection surges just in the past week.
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Re: COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")
« Reply #6778 on: June 23, 2020, 02:56:10 PM »
I feel like we are living the movie the "Groundhog Day".

1. Virus hits Asia.  Europe thinks they are fine,  they get hit
2. Virus hits Europe.  US thinks they are fine,  Washington and NY get hit
3. Virus hits Washington and NY,  Midwest thinks they are fine,  Midwest gets hit.
4. Virus hits Midwest,  South & West think they are fine.....

At what point do leaders take responsibility when this movie plays OVER AND OVER again?

Human society is rarely proactive. Add that to large egos plus moronic leadership and that's how we get where we are

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Re: COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")
« Reply #6779 on: June 23, 2020, 05:40:49 PM »
Interesting study.  The Hill article a summary but the link to the study is in the article. 

I wonder if the improvement in case fatality rate is a prevalence of undetected spread issue in addition to better treatment.

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/longevity/504145-more-than-87-million-coronavirus-cases-may-have-gone

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« Reply #6780 on: June 23, 2020, 05:43:54 PM »
Multiple Docs seem to like this thread on explaining recent trends in data. 

https://mobile.twitter.com/nataliexdean/status/1275431821422006274

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Re: COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")
« Reply #6781 on: June 23, 2020, 08:20:01 PM »
The WH is planning to end federal support for local coronavirus testing sites across the nation at the end of the month - including seven in Texas, where confirmed cases of COVID are spiking.

Texas has seen a 146-percent increase in lab-confirmed COVID-19 hospitalizations since Memorial Day and Houston could soon be the country’s worst-hit city, health officials have warned.


https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/As-feds-ready-to-pull-support-for-testing-sites-15360900.php

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« Reply #6782 on: June 23, 2020, 08:22:18 PM »
The WH is planning to end federal support for local coronavirus testing sites across the nation at the end of the month - including seven in Texas, where confirmed cases of COVID are spiking.

Texas has seen a 146-percent increase in lab-confirmed COVID-19 hospitalizations since Memorial Day and Houston could soon be the country’s worst-hit city, health officials have warned.


https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/As-feds-ready-to-pull-support-for-testing-sites-15360900.php

Ugh is all I can say.

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« Reply #6783 on: June 23, 2020, 08:32:09 PM »
The WH is planning to end federal support for local coronavirus testing sites across the nation at the end of the month - including seven in Texas, where confirmed cases of COVID are spiking.

Texas has seen a 146-percent increase in lab-confirmed COVID-19 hospitalizations since Memorial Day and Houston could soon be the country’s worst-hit city, health officials have warned.


https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/As-feds-ready-to-pull-support-for-testing-sites-15360900.php

What else can you expect from the WPE.

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Re: COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")
« Reply #6784 on: June 23, 2020, 08:47:08 PM »
The WH is planning to end federal support for local coronavirus testing sites across the nation at the end of the month - including seven in Texas, where confirmed cases of COVID are spiking.

Texas has seen a 146-percent increase in lab-confirmed COVID-19 hospitalizations since Memorial Day and Houston could soon be the country’s worst-hit city, health officials have warned.


https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/As-feds-ready-to-pull-support-for-testing-sites-15360900.php

That is just mind-boggling.

I don’t get his endgame. People are still going to get sick, hospitalized and die. This will make it worse because there will be more undetected and uncontrolled spread. How does that benefit him or the American people?

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« Reply #6785 on: June 23, 2020, 08:56:37 PM »
That is just mind-boggling.

I don’t get his endgame. People are still going to get sick, hospitalized and die. This will make it worse because there will be more undetected and uncontrolled spread. How does that benefit him or the American people?

Because places like Texas do not count deaths or hospitalizations unless there is a positive PCR test. They don't even count cases diagnosed with other diagnostic tests. Unless there is a verified PCR test, states like Texas and Florida will not count it as a case, a hospitalization, or a death.

So they will just get recorded as ILI's or pneumonia. Makes it less likely that additional restrictions/shutdowns are needed, and makes it look like things "got better".

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« Reply #6786 on: June 23, 2020, 09:12:14 PM »
Because places like Texas do not count deaths or hospitalizations unless there is a positive PCR test. They don't even count cases diagnosed with other diagnostic tests. Unless there is a verified PCR test, states like Texas and Florida will not count it as a case, a hospitalization, or a death.

So they will just get recorded as ILI's or pneumonia. Makes it less likely that additional restrictions/shutdowns are needed, and makes it look like things "got better".


Yeah - forgot about that. Do you have any idea how many states count that way?

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Re: COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")
« Reply #6787 on: June 23, 2020, 09:49:03 PM »
That is just mind-boggling.

I don’t get his endgame. People are still going to get sick, hospitalized and die. This will make it worse because there will be more undetected and uncontrolled spread. How does that benefit him or the American people?

This is probably the easiest thing to understand about him, Goo.

His end game is always Donald Trump.

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« Reply #6788 on: June 23, 2020, 10:18:44 PM »

Yeah - forgot about that. Do you have any idea how many states count that way?

Surprisingly, quite a few, but to varying degrees. Florida and Texas seem to have the most strict definitions of a case, but apparently 28 states are not completely following CDC case reporting guidelines.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/09/health/us-coronavirus-tuesday/index.html

Also, as a funny aside, almost accidentally invited the Scoop community to the meeting I was just scheduling tomorrow. Thought I had copied the above link, and pasted it in and almost hit post before realizing it was a zoom link. It was a CoVID meeting, so at least it was on topic.

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« Reply #6789 on: June 23, 2020, 10:18:56 PM »
This is probably the easiest thing to understand about him, Goo.

His end game is always Donald Trump.
Yeah, I mean once again he has said the quiet parts out loud. He has said numerous times that more testing makes him look bad. He even contradicted the lame attempt by his spokespeople to pretend that was just joking at the failed rally, and reiterated today his desire for less testing.

His endgame is to do less testing because he believes that will lead to fewer deaths being recorded as due to COVID which will makes him look better.

Again, he has said this. Out loud. Anyone trying to ascribe some other rational motive is just gaslighting, attempting to deny reality. HE HAS ADMITTED IT, proudly and publicly.
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« Reply #6790 on: June 23, 2020, 10:35:32 PM »
I feel like we are living the movie the "Groundhog Day".

1. Virus hits Asia.  Europe thinks they are fine,  they get hit
2. Virus hits Europe.  US thinks they are fine,  Washington and NY get hit
3. Virus hits Washington and NY,  Midwest thinks they are fine,  Midwest gets hit.
4. Virus hits Midwest,  South & West think they are fine.....

At what point do leaders take responsibility when this movie plays OVER AND OVER again?

Not sure what you're defining as the Midwest, but Illinois and Michigan were pretty much right there with NY and Washington as states hit hard early, and governors in those states, as well as Ohio, were among the first to enact serious restrictions. If you're talking Iowa, Nebraska, etc., sure. But the large Midwest states acted quickly.

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« Reply #6791 on: June 23, 2020, 10:37:07 PM »
Meanwhile in Texas ...

@tripgabriel: .@GovAbbott tells Texans to stay home unless absolutely necessary as the state sets another record for new cases.
Texas was one of first states to *end* stay-home orders on April 30.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/23/world/coronavirus-updates.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

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« Reply #6792 on: June 23, 2020, 10:41:54 PM »
Have the MAGA celebrations about our overreaction to the hoax ended yet? Can we start taking this seriously? Because if we don’t we won’t even be out of our first wave in the USA before the second wave is hitting us.
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« Reply #6793 on: June 23, 2020, 11:11:35 PM »
https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-reopening-united-states-new-zealand-china-20200619.html

The good news is other countries used the scientific studies from US scientists to successfully slow the spread of covid. The bad news is the US did not. So we can once again become a world leader once we put a competent leader in the White House.

But why listen to American scientists? After all, on behalf of the American people, I would like to thank President Xi for the incredible handling of covid 19.
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« Reply #6794 on: June 23, 2020, 11:16:50 PM »
Meanwhile in Texas ...

@tripgabriel: .@GovAbbott tells Texans to stay home unless absolutely necessary as the state sets another record for new cases.
Texas was one of first states to *end* stay-home orders on April 30.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/23/world/coronavirus-updates.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Thank God we have Tony Evers instead of Abbott here in Wisconsin.

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Re: COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")
« Reply #6795 on: June 24, 2020, 06:08:40 AM »
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")
« Reply #6796 on: June 24, 2020, 07:34:57 AM »
Novak Djokovic has tested positive for coronavirus

https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/29351887/novak-djokovic-tested-positive-coronavirus

Djokovic has been criticized for organizing the tournament and bringing in players from other countries amid the coronavirus pandemic. There were no social distancing measures observed at the matches in either country.

"Life goes on" was his quote last month. Defiant, feeling of invincibility, impatient, young, elite athlete, couldn't possibly happen to him. And if it does, he'll be fine. But of course, it isn't about just him, but everyone exposed by everyone there. Bar and club hopping while there. Nole was also outspoken against the U.S. Open protocols, limited guests etc....(Djokovic routinely rents a large house for his large group annually when playing in Queens)

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« Reply #6797 on: June 24, 2020, 07:39:32 AM »
"Life goes on" was his quote last month. Defiant, feeling of invincibility, impatient, young, elite athlete, couldn't possibly happen to him. And if it does, he'll be fine. But of course, it isn't about just him, but everyone exposed by everyone there. Bar and club hopping while there. Nole was also outspoken against the U.S. Open protocols, limited guests etc....(Djokovic routinely rents a large house for his large group annually when playing in Queens)

He’s also an anti-vaxxer. So this doesn’t come as too much of a surprise.

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« Reply #6798 on: June 24, 2020, 07:41:23 AM »
"Life goes on" was his quote last month. Defiant, feeling of invincibility, impatient, young, elite athlete, couldn't possibly happen to him. And if it does, he'll be fine. But of course, it isn't about just him, but everyone exposed by everyone there. Bar and club hopping while there. Nole was also outspoken against the U.S. Open protocols, limited guests etc....(Djokovic routinely rents a large house for his large group annually when playing in Queens)

Love watching him play tennis, but he comes across as a selfish jerk who doesn't care that the young people probably will be fine but that they'll carry COVID-19 to their parents, grandparents, co-workers and others susceptible to serious consequences. Very disappointed in him and others who think like him.
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« Reply #6799 on: June 24, 2020, 08:47:52 AM »

Surprisingly, quite a few, but to varying degrees. Florida and Texas seem to have the most strict definitions of a case, but apparently 28 states are not completely following CDC case reporting guidelines.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/09/health/us-coronavirus-tuesday/index.html

Also, as a funny aside, almost accidentally invited the Scoop community to the meeting I was just scheduling tomorrow. Thought I had copied the above link, and pasted it in and almost hit post before realizing it was a zoom link. It was a CoVID meeting, so at least it was on topic.



Somehow I had forgotten about that article...but I know I read it and probably even commented on it here.

Anyhow, I wonder if the public knowledge that so many states aren't following the guidelines has led (or is leading) some to change their reporting practices. At the very least, I would think states with governors who take the science seriously would want to address the issue. If not, maybe increased availability of commercial or locally administered tests will partially negate the efforts of POTUS to reduce numbers by pulling back federal testing efforts.

Or maybe I'm just grasping for the futile hope that somehow we eventually follow science to the end of this pandemic....


 

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