COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")

[GooooMarquette]

It is one of the under-reported stories of this pandemic. So many survivors have had their lives altered.

And obviously we don’t know yet how long a haul these folks are in for. Maybe the rest of their lives. I personally know 2 of them. Feel so bad for them.

Yep. So many going through a seemingly endless nightmare. The medical community has made great strides in cutting the death rate; it would be great to see progress in this area.

[mu_hilltopper]

Surprise!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/10/17/sturgis-rally-spread/

[MU82]

Not just from Sturgis, though. All through the country, COVID-19 is surging in states less likely to have observed mask-wearing and social-distancing mitigation efforts. In other words, red states. Very sad, and mostly avoidable.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-surge-in-republican-areas-124951839.html

[GooooMarquette]

Not just from Sturgis, though. All through the country, COVID-19 is surging in states less likely to have observed mask-wearing and social-distancing mitigation efforts. In other words, red states. Very sad, and mostly avoidable.

Correct. In the upper Midwest, the governors of ND, SD and IA have declined to implement mask mandates, while the WI governor has imposed one that has been repeatedly challenged by the GOP-controlled legislature.

Not surprisingly, those four states are currently #1, #2, #4 and #8 in new cases per capita over the past 7 days. ND and SD are especially terrifying, with rates that are approaching 2X even the next highest states. (in per 100K residents: ND - 608; SD - 527; MT - 390; WI - 342; NE - 282....).

And to add to the significance of these numbers, ND, SD, MT and NE are four of the eight least populated states in terms of people per square mile. That should lead to lower spread, so the fact that they lead in cases per capita is just staggering.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Not just from Sturgis, though. All through the country, COVID-19 is surging in states less likely to have observed mask-wearing and social-distancing mitigation efforts. In other words, red states. Very sad, and mostly avoidable.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-surge-in-republican-areas-124951839.html

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. And in this case, listen to stupid leaders, win deadly prizes.

[Jockey]

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. And in this case, listen to stupid leaders, win deadly prizes.

And then waste our tax dollars keeping these people alive. They don’t care if they get the virus, don’t care if they infect and kill others.

[shoothoops]

And then waste our tax dollars keeping these people alive. They don’t care if they get the virus, don’t care if they infect and kill others.

I drove past a Catholic Church today, and they had a sign that said vote pro life. I laughed.

[mu_hilltopper]

I drove past a Catholic Church today, and they had a sign that said vote pro life. I laughed.

I imagine they advise their flock to seek out the US Conference of Catholic Bishop's voter guide to see which candidate aligns with Catholic values ..right? https://www.catholicvoterguide.com ..

[tower912]

In his homily today, my parish priest referenced e-mails he has received from people he has never heard of telling him that it is his responsibility as the pastor to tell his parishioners to vote (either party) or face going to hell.     With the Gospel reading being about rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar's and rendering unto God what is God's, he took the rest of his sermon to talk about the Catholic responsibility to engage, about discernment, about Fratelli tutti, and how it is every Catholic's responsibility to look at all of the issues. 
Very balanced.   

[shoothoops]

"Inside the fall of The CDC."

"How the world's greatest health organization was brought to its knees by a virus, the president and the capitulation if its own leaders causing damage that could last much longer than the coronavirus."

https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-the-fall-of-the-cdc/amp?__twitter_impression=true

[Jockey]

"Inside the fall of The CDC."

"How the world's greatest health organization was brought to its knees by a virus, the president and the capitulation if its own leaders causing damage that could last much longer than the coronavirus."

https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-the-fall-of-the-cdc/amp?__twitter_impression=true

You are preachin' to the choir, hoops. I have been saying this for at least 3 months now.

Sad - because if you look back to the early days of this thread, I was the one extolling the CDC as THE people to listen to. I told people here to do whatever they say.

Sadly, they are now merely accomplices to the White House in the killing of Americans.

[shoothoops]

I imagine they advise their flock to seek out the US Conference of Catholic Bishop's voter guide to see which candidate aligns with Catholic values ..right? https://www.catholicvoterguide.com ..

Perhaps if they spent less time putting up the sign and more time putting in this.....lol:

https://twitter.com/RebekaDawn/status/1317843731404435456?s=19

[rocky_warrior]

Some good news.  Over time, it *appears* (not peer reviewed) damage to the lungs due to Covid will heal.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/18/health/Covid-lung-damage-recovery.html

[BM1090]

Some good news.  Over time, it *appears* (not peer reviewed) damage to the lungs due to Covid will heal.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/18/health/Covid-lung-damage-recovery.html

Anecdotal, but one of my co-workers had this experience. She is middle-aged with severe asthma. She had trouble breathing for almost three months after COVID, to the point that she was unable to work or talk to others. She is back to normal now and her doctors have told her she shouldn't worry about any long-term issues.

[MU82]

That's good news, rocky and BM. Here's hoping similar results will occur, over time, with some of the other conditions that survivors are experiencing.

[Jockey]

The Washington Post is reporting there is much dissension within the COVID19 task force that Dr. Deborah Birx wants Mike Pence to get rid of the Fox News doctor for spreading disinformation to Trump

Dr. Birx had been one of Trump's favorites until she became heavily criticized for downplaying the coronavirus and now has been replaced as the face of the Task Force by Dr. Scott Atlas, a purveyor of right-wing fringe conspiracies and ideas on how to treat the virus.

As the White House coronavirus response coordinator, Birx is tasked with collecting and analyzing infection data and compiling charts detailing upticks and other trends. But Atlas routinely has challenged Birx’s analysis and those of other doctors, including Anthony S. Fauci, CDC Director Redfield, and FDA Commissioner Hahn, with what the other doctors considered junk science, according to three senior administration officials

Dr. Atlas has been promoting right-wing fringe theories that "masks don't protect you," "we should slow down testing," "kids should go to school because they don't transmit the disease or get very sick," and that herd immunity is the key in defeating COVID-19."

Dr. Birx finally had enough of the charlatan and recently confronted the Pence about the acrimony, according to people familiar with the meeting. Birx, whose profile and influence has eroded considerably since Atlas’s arrival, told Pence’s office that she does not trust Atlas, does not believe he is giving Trump sound advice and wants him removed from the task force.

Pence refuses to take a side and told them to bring data bolstering their perspectives to the task force and to work out their disagreements themselves, according to two senior administration officials.

Is it any wonder that the federal response to the coronavirus is in shambles? The American people are now at a more severe risk of contracting this virus as the winter approaches.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Clearly we are locked into our strategy at this point.  I just hope someone on that pandemic team recognized this and ordered enough PPE and drugs to help the doctors out of the next onslaught. 

[Jockey]

Frenns, It obviously won't be Fauci.

President Donald Trump on Monday lashed out at medical experts and complained about people being tired of hearing about COVID-19, as the confirmed death toll in the U.S. ticked closer to 220,000 and the spread of the disease continued to accelerate.  Trump made the comments on a call with campaign staffers, seeking to pass blame for the pandemic and seemingly lamenting his inability to shift the national conversation.

“People are tired of Covid,” Trump said. “People are tired of hearing Fauci and these idiots, all these idiots who got it wrong. Every time he goes on television, there’s always a bomb, but there’s a bigger bomb if you fire him. This guy’s a disaster.”

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Not should it be.  If everyone is marginalized back to their home bases, he would be working on treatments and vaccines. 

[Warriors4ever]

My own suspicion is that if Trump wins in November, he will get rid of Dr. Fauci. But he can’t do it before the election because there would be enormous blowback.

[Jockey]

My own suspicion is that if Trump wins in November, he will get rid of Dr. Fauci. But he can’t do it before the election because there would be enormous blowback.

I agree. It will be full speed ahead on herd immunity. The deaths we have seen so far will pale in comparison to what will come.

[GooooMarquette]

I agree. It will be full speed ahead on herd immunity. The deaths we have seen so far will pale in comparison to what will come.

aka Burnin' Down the House

[Jockey]

aka Burnin' Down the House

We’ve got a Psycho Killer leading us down a Road to Nowhere in this covid Life During Wartime.

[GooooMarquette]

We’ve got a Psycho Killer leading us down a Road to Nowhere in this covid Life During Wartime.

We might never have gotten into this Once In A Lifetime mess if only he had Found a Job where he could actually make more money than he lost. Instead, he took over The Big Country, ignored the Cities, and brought in a bunch of Slippery People. And She Was grabbed by the p****.

[Billy Hoyle]

We’ve got a Psycho Killer leading us down a Road to Nowhere in this covid Life During Wartime.

hopefully, only for a few more weeks....