Oso planning to go pro
Study done at Sydney University. Here is one of the researchers in his own wordshttps://twitter.com/SBSNews/status/1258298018710736896Some additional links (appears there a many to choose from)https://www.barrons.com/news/australia-fears-suicide-spike-due-to-virus-shutdown-01588819808https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8293233/Far-people-Australia-predicted-die-suicide-coronavirus-lockdown.htmlIf that doesn't grab your attention, 75,000 Americans could die of suicide because of COVID. https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/08/health/coronavirus-deaths-of-despair/index.html
President Obama said it well yesterday. "It would have been bad even in the best of governments". Agree with him completely. When I see people say blood on someone's hands, or all 75K deaths result of one person, or bigger than Vietnam. This is nothing but blatant partisanship. Could things have been better? No double in my mind. Would a different administration have done things differently in an election year? Highly doubtful.
If that doesn't grab your attention, 75,000 Americans could die of suicide because of COVID. https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/08/health/coronavirus-deaths-of-despair/index.html
From the report:This report is not a call to suddenly reopen the country. Some might use this report to argue that this is why our economy needs to open up fast. But that’s NOT what we are saying. We need to abide by good science, and make sure that testing and contact tracing is occurring at adequate levels to assure that it is safe to open up. Even as of today parts of the country are opening, data suggest that this is premature due to a lack of consistent testing, which allows local public health authorities to trace, treat, and isolate to prevent further spread. A range of efforts at containing the COVID-19 pandemic must be rigorously applied to minimize deaths from infection.
I agree with the conclusions from the report cheeks posted. We need comprehensive testing and contact tracing before we reopen the country; and we need dramatically enhanced mental health services to mitigate mental health issues that might result from this crisis.#keepsciencing
The report's not necessarily unreasonable, though it is pretty vague and I couldn't find some of their definitions ... like, is a pedestrian hit by a drunk driver a COVID death? I don't know, because they don't appear to define that.The irony is that the authors emphasize that the report shouldn't be used in exactly the way WarriorCheeks is trying to use it.
The researchers are saying more deaths in Australia because of suicide, because they are assuming essentially no CoVID deaths. They are estimating 1500 suicides total nationwide. If Australia didn't quarantine, and treat this as seriously as they did, they would already have had far more than 1500 CoVID deaths. Because of Australia's quarantine, tracking, and tracing programs they have only had 97 deaths from CoVID. Regarding the 75,000 Americans. The study does not look at a comparison of how many would die from overdose or suicide if 100's of thousands of Americans are dying from a disease that is difficult to avoid. My guess is that individuals who are susceptible to overdose and suicide would be far more affected by large scale death and disease, and uncertainty around it, than economic affects. Looking at one in isolation of the other is poor practice. The one thing that is true though, is regardless, we need to be investing more heavily in mental health care, because many are suffering mental health issues.
Industrial strength intellectual dishonesty. So, so chicos."Obama continued to tear into the Trump administration’s handling of the coronavirus crisis, partly blaming the White House’s "what’s in it for me" mindset."It's part of the reason why the response to this global crisis has been so anemic and spotty," Obama said. "It would have been bad even with the best of governments. It has been an absolute chaotic disaster when that mindset of 'what's in it for me' and 'to heck with everybody else' ... is operationalized in our government."
The part you quoted was his opinion, which I agree with, but it is only an opinion. He's in a position where he didn't have to do anything so he can say what he wants and no one can prove it differently. I do not believe any other administration in an election year would do things much differently. Political suicide.Based on news in the last 72 hours, President Obama may be looking to say a number of things right now because of the transcripts released on Friday from the Russia investigation. There is some head scratching testimony from his administration that don't align with the claims of never having a scandal. I suspect we will be hearing much more in the coming weeks.
Both studies are saying there are incremental suicides as a result of the economic despair caused by this virus and the actions taken. I am not passing judgment on what the correct policy action is as only time will tell. Do you disagree with their assertions that more people are in mental distress because of job losses, their business no longer functioning, anxiety about the future?
That is very kind of you, WD, pointing out the weaknesses in the mental health system and advocating for more and better treatment.
Interestingly, an increase in spending on mental health would benefit a guy like him quite a bit.
Unnecessary.