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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: fjm on April 15, 2019, 12:30:54 PM
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This stings. Really really bad.
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potential top 5 team....will we be top 25 now?
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Hauser(s)
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Hauser(s). Brutal. Wojo feels like a lame duck at this point
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The official twitter account has posted it. Absolutely unreal.
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I'd rather have both Hauser's over Markus.
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You know damn well they are both headed to Wisconsin.
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F-u-c-k
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I'd rather have both Hauser's over Markus.
Bailed on a top 5 team where they would be getting prime minutes.
Give me the guy who doesn't quit on his team.
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I don’t really see any incentive to keep Wojo now. Present and the future just took a HUGE hit.
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I'd rather have both Hauser's over Markus.
It's not a Markus thing. It's a Hauser v Wojo thing.
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I’m done with this team.
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You know damn well they are both headed to Wisconsin.
Virginia or Michigan State. What a disaster. Absolute disaster.
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It's not a Markus thing. It's a Hauser v Wojo thing.
Right. Sam & Joey >>> Wojo
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I don’t really see any incentive to keep Wojo now. Present and the future just took a HUGE hit.
He’ll be gone after next year.
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Bailed on a top 5 team where they would be getting prime minutes.
Give me the guy who doesn't quit on his team.
Or quit on a coach who likely has no plan for next year other than Howard ball like when times got tough this year.
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Or quit on a coach who likely has no plan for next year other than Howard ball like when times got tough this year.
Joey had the offense go through him more than enough times. Too many in my opinion.
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What say you now Wojo backers?? I will hang up and listen. Still think he's doing a great job??
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Or quit on a coach who likely has no plan for next year other than Howard ball like when times got tough this year.
This has to be about Wojo. But it's probably about Markus too. Maybe just the way they see him using Markus?
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This is just shocking. Completely out of nowhere. Both had big roles. I don't get it. Maybe its their dream to play at Madison.
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Pack your bags wojo!!
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Absolute mental midgets
Wonder if the year of sitting out will help Joey to not turn the ball over 5 possessions in a row to singlehandedly lose the team a game vs a non tourney team at home.
Hopefully this at least means its Cain time. Someone with a little heart.
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The window for moving on from Wojo came and went and that opportunity was blown. Inexcusable
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What say you now Wojo backers?? I will hang up and listen. Still think he's doing a great job??
They would be getting top minutes on a top 5 team next year. I don't blame Wojo.
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It's not a Markus thing. It's a Hauser v Wojo thing.
Not true, at least not the whole truth
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Absolute mental midgets
Wonder if the year of sitting out will help Joey to not turn the ball over 5 possessions in a row to singlehandedly lose the team a game vs a non tourney team at home.
Hopefully this at least means its Cain time. Someone with a little heart.
That just made me throw up in my mouth a little
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I am a Bulls fan. If they go and play for Hoidberg, I will just stop watching basketball.
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Their dream definitely was not to watch Howard shoot 50 times a game.
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Not true, at least not the whole truth
OK ... so now that it's official and you seem to have some insight, could you be a little less vague?
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We'll let the story shake itself out, but I'll say this, if they were unhappy with their role, it's their own damn fault. Neither one was willing or able to routinely assert themselves.
That being said, there's room on the fire wojo bandwagon, kids. Kids coming out of high school are going to start sensing a pattern...
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Bailed on a top 5 team where they would be getting prime minutes.
Give me the guy who doesn't quit on his team.
Yep. And someone who doesn't leave because he is "only" the #2 or #3 option on a top 5 team.
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Their dream definitely was not to watch Howard shoot 50 times a game.
Exactly. Sam waving his arms like a madman while Markus yet again tried for the heroics vs SH was very telling.
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The team just got better defensively
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Wow! To leave a potential top 10 team next season, this is a Hauser vs. Wojo thing. Wojo's days are numbered.
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This is the day and age we live in, all these kids / parents think they're going to make the NBA and they'll do whatever they can to try and make it happen. College bball is becoming less and less of a team sport every year.
You can't really blame Markus or the Hauser's, they're just trying to do whatever they can to make it at the next level. This all falls on Wojo and I think regardless of what happens next year, sans a Final Four, that will be his last year in Milwaukee.
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Exactly. Sam waving his arms like a madman while Markus yet again tried for the heroics vs SH was very telling.
This is exactly right NOT shocking at all guys would NOT want to play with Markus!!!!!
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WHAT.THE.unnatural carnal knowledge.
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Did Sam graduate early? Joey will lose a whole year of eligibility, right?
It must have been really awful for both of them to sit out a year at this point.
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Joey is not a star by any means. Sam turned out to be far better.
The fact that we were a pre season top 5 pick is a joke. Wayyyyyy too much of an over estimate
Wojo has one season left to make something of this mess. The loss of the hausers is on him. If he can make gold still with the mess of a roster we have now. Fine keep him. The program may very well be in shambles now. Might even lose prospects with him staying
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I will say, this is a dark moment in program history. Not often that the backbone of the program hit the bricks. Sadly, my gut says Wojo has no clue this was going to happen.
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Wow! To leave a potential top 10 team next season, this is a Hauser vs. Wojo thing. Wojo's days are numbered.
That's two WI families that now have left MU under Wojo extremely poorly.
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Don’t forget Joey losing a whole year of eligibility to transfer.
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JOey to Virginia?????
Bennett abandoning defense and ball security???
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Don’t forget Joey losing a whole year of eligibility to transfer.
Does he lose a whole year because he used his redshirt already?
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Joey is not a star by any means. Sam turned out to be far better.
The fact that we were a pre season top 5 pick is a joke. Wayyyyyy too much of an over estimate
Wojo has one season left to make something of this mess. The loss of the hausers is on him. If he can make gold still with the mess of a roster we have now. Fine keep him. The program may very well be in shambles now. Might even lose prospects with him staying
At this point, I would not be surprised that Wojo does not survive this in the very near future.
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Wonder where they go? They will be in high demand but what other top 10 teams would basically guarantee them 2/3rd options with 30 mpg each (though Joey sits).
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Definitely on Wojo. And now we are stuck with a waste year.
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Damn. I'm really going to miss those guys. They were both really nice players, and I thought we had a great thing coming together for next season.
I'm really disappointed by some of the crap that people on this board are already saying about them. We just lost two really, really good players. For some reason, things at MU were bad enough that they're walking out on what could have been a special season. This situation is disturbing, but it's really sad that some fans feel it's necessary to trash them on their way out the door.
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You know damn well they are both headed to Wisconsin.
Wisconsin would be blocked.
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Really curious what Sam is looking for at his next school.
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Seems like Sam’s tweet thanked everybody but the coaches.
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Does he lose a whole year because he used his redshirt already?
For the time being yes but could likely apply for a medical hardship waiver when he graduates and be granted another year.
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One year of Sam would help a team; Joey will be a decent roll player on a good team. Admittedly, its unfortunate for MU. Next.
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I will say, this is a dark moment in program history. Not often that the backbone of the program hit the bricks. Sadly, my gut says Wojo has no clue this was going to happen.
No question, Goose.
That said, the way the season ended, MU looked like a team with issues. Why would Wojo be shocked by that?
This feels like the beginning of the end of the Wojo era.
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They said they wanted to win a national championship together...maybe they should transfer to UW-Stevens Point and go for it at the D3 level
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What say you now Wojo backers?? I will hang up and listen. Still think he's doing a great job??
No.
I feel bad for everyone involved.
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Wisconsin would be blocked.
Schools cannot block anymore.
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Wisconsin would be blocked.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ncaa-approves-rule-that-ends-coaches-ability-to-block-transfers/
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Upward trajectory, aina?
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Just wondering but why would Wisconsin be blocked? is it just a school would be jealous if they had players that wanted to transfer to a rival so they block them or what>? I say if they want to go to Madison F it. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
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There are logical decisions in life and there are illogical decisions. My mind is saying illogical at this point. You have two players starting on a Top 10 team next year. The second team All American announces he will return to MU for unfinished business and in less than five days, your starting frontline is gone and decimated. Reports are documented that is wasn't the fact Markus is coming back for their departure. If not that, or it is a mere media deflection of the actual problem, then it could only be one reason, the coach and staff.
Perception of a program in crisis, disarray is not a good thing, especially in the recruiting part.
Is it too late for Markus to declare back into the NBA draft process? If I was him, I would seek some sort of waiver. Don't care what the reason the Hausers are leaving for, but Markus will always be the one to blame going forward, especially given the timing of his announcement, then the Hausers.
Wojo better get some grad transfers in the forward position big time. He just got small, with no bench and with the teams constant foul issues, it could get ugly. I said earlier that MU hasn't seen such a transfer since the consecutive years in which Chones, McNeil and Lucas left. But those were spread out and not in one year.
Lets hope the real story comes out reference the reason they left, rumors will not help this program in any manner.
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This is exactly right NOT shocking at all guys would NOT want to play with Markus!!!!!
and that's on wojo. his coaching strategy was to hope his star player puts up 40 at the expense of everyone else. any moron could look at that situation and say markus playing hero ball is not good for the team as a whole. either wojo had no balls to change it or he was too stupid.
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and that's on wojo. his coaching strategy was to hope his star player puts up 40 at the expense of everyone else. any moron could look at that situation and say markus playing hero ball is not good for the team as a whole. either wojo had no balls to change it or he was too stupid.
True story. Was looking forward to next year hoping Wojo would rein Markus in. Now i'm not looking forward to next year at all. Losing Hausers > Losing Markus
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There are logical decisions in life and there are illogical decisions. My mind is saying illogical at this point. You have two players starting on a Top 10 team next year. The second team All American announces he will return to MU for unfinished business and in less than five days, your starting frontline is gone and decimated. Reports are documented that is wasn't the fact Markus is coming back for their departure. If not that, or it is a mere media deflection of the actual problem, then it could only be one reason, the coach and staff.
Perception of a program in crisis, disarray is not a good thing, especially in the recruiting part.
Is it too late for Markus to declare back into the NBA draft process? If I was him, I would seek some sort of waiver. Don't care what the reason the Hausers are leaving for, but Markus will always be the one to blame going forward, especially given the timing of his announcement, then the Hausers.
Wojo better get some grad transfers in the forward position big time. He just got small, with no bench and with the teams constant foul issues, it could get ugly. I said earlier that MU hasn't seen such a transfer since the consecutive years in which Chones, McNeil and Lucas left. But those were spread out and not in one year.
Lets hope the real story comes out reference the reason they left, rumors will not help this program in any manner.
The Hausers are not going to come out and say its because of Howard. Come on man wake up!
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No.
I feel bad for everyone involved.
Yeah, I agree. People do what they feel is right for them. Good Luck to everyone involved. The Sun will come out tomorrow for all.
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what are the chances markus now enters the draft considering they literally have nobody to spread the offense now, markus won't even come close to the scoring he had this year with the hausers out, more sam than anything but in theory joey can spread the floor too.
I would not be shocked one bit if markus now entered but perhaps this all was in motion well before we got wind of the hausers and markus coming back.
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Felt like Joey was never happy
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True story. Was looking forward to next year hoping Wojo would rein Markus in. Now i'm not looking forward to next year at all. Losing Hausers > Losing Markus
Wrong
1. Markus wants to be here
2. Sam has one year left same as Markus
3. Joey is basically a traffic cone defensively and commits TOs like they are an objective.
Losing them sucks. But give me Markus all day.
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The Hausers are not going to come out and say its because of Howard. Come on man wake up!
I am well, wide awake. Read...... Thats why it will always be the perception.
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program is going down...big time
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Opens up playing time for Nicolet kids???
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Opens up playing time for Nicolet kids???
hopefully a couple kids from minnesota too
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There are logical decisions in life and there are illogical decisions. My mind is saying illogical at this point. You have two players starting on a Top 10 team next year. The second team All American announces he will return to MU for unfinished business and in less than five days, your starting frontline is gone and decimated. Reports are documented that is wasn't the fact Markus is coming back for their departure. If not that, or it is a mere media deflection of the actual problem, then it could only be one reason, the coach and staff.
I'm well aware that conventional wisdom on this board is that we were never "really" a Top 10 team this year. But, we were. Twice. You can look it up. And I'm sure Sam and Joey remember that. So, they've seen first hand what can happen to a "Top 10" team when there is dysfunction. In my opinion, the inescapable conclusion is that they believe that there is something broken in the program and they have no faith that Wojo can or will fix it.
This sucks so bad. Last week I was definitely not in the "fire Wojo" camp because I felt it had been a pretty good year (notwithstanding the train wreck at the end) and because the program was trending upward. It doesn't appear to be trending upward any more.
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So Wojo is still the correct man to lead this program? This is very very ugly. For what the pundits were saying about how good we were gonna be and they transfer anyways. All you need to know about the way this program is being run
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Maybe this is dumb, but is it a sure thing that the Hausers are a package deal and sure to transfer to the same school? Their situations are pretty different.
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I just don't understand. Why? Sam played 34 minutes a game, and Joey 29. Both were major parts of the team. Maybe they both were a little fed up with watching Markus huck up 30 shots a game, but enough for Sam to go sit out a year in order to play in an unknown system? For Joey to blow 25% of his eligibility?
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND. They must really, really, really hate Wojo.
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https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ncaa-approves-rule-that-ends-coaches-ability-to-block-transfers/
go away duechebag you have enough to worry about with your own pos team
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perhaps we could tempt some hard nosed ball players from UWL or UWSP to come our way now?
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Felt like Joey was never happy
Yep, between his body language and facial expressions was not hard to miss. Wonder if this was brewing the previous season.
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Maybe this is dumb, but is it a sure thing that the Hausers are a package deal and sure to transfer to the same school? Their situations are pretty different.
If it’s Virgina I don’t see how they possibly could be a package deal.
Marial Shayok struggled to get consistent Pt
You think Joeys defense has Bennett jumping for joy??? Lol
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For Joey to blow 25% of his eligibility?
Joey isn't blowing anything. I can't imagine he'll have any difficulty whatsoever getting a medical hardship waiver to play a fourth season. Unless there is some rule that I'm not aware of, it seems like an absolute no-brainer.
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If it’s Virgina I don’t see how they possibly could be a package deal.
Marial Shayok struggled to get consistent Pt
You think Joeys defense has Bennett jumping for joy??? Lol
Consider that coaching is the problem.
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I hate even bringing this topic up today, but is Markus eligible to grad transfer (if he were to decide to)?
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all I can think about is obi wan in star wars when with that tweet that "its as if millions of voices just cried out in terror"
a great disturbance in the force indeed.
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I'm well aware that conventional wisdom on this board is that we were never "really" a Top 10 team this year. But, we were. Twice. You can look it up. And I'm sure Sam and Joey remember that. So, they've seen first hand what can happen to a "Top 10" team when there is dysfunction. In my opinion, the inescapable conclusion is that they believe that there is something broken in the program and they have no faith that Wojo can or will fix it.
This sucks so bad. Last week I was definitely not in the "fire Wojo" camp because I felt it had been a pretty good year (notwithstanding the train wreck at the end) and because the program was trending upward. It doesn't appear to be trending upward any more.
Well said. This is symptomatic of deeper issues. Players in their situation, particularly Sam’s don’t make decisions like this because they want the ball more.
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If the BOT had any balls they would have kicked Wojo to the curb after losing to Murray St. For me, its not about losing the Hausers, but rather the fooked up mess this program is in with Wojo.
BTW, y'all should not belittle those on this board who bring inside info just because you don't want to believe it. There is/was between the Hausers and Howard.
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Consider that coaching is the problem.
Coaching is why Joey got blown by every single athletic player he went against??
The rest of the team was defensively coached pretty well.
And again, if Bennett couldn’t get shayok to play better defense what’s to say he can get Joey to not be awful?
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If the BOT had any balls they would have kicked Wojo to the curb after losing to Murray St. For me, its not about losing the Hausers, but rather the fooked up mess this program is in with Wojo.
BTW, y'all should not belittle those on this board who bring inside info just because you don't want to believe it. There is/was between the Hausers and Howard.
4ever is so pissed he dropped his shtick
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Joey isn't blowing anything. I can't imagine he'll have any difficulty whatsoever getting a medical hardship waiver to play a fourth season. Unless there is some rule that I'm not aware of, it seems like an absolute no-brainer.
Potentially blowing 25% of his eligibility who have been a better way to phrase that. He come to Marquette full well knowing he was using a year of eligibility when he could not play. Who knows what kind of flexibility the NCAA will have with that situation.
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Joey isn't blowing anything. I can't imagine he'll have any difficulty whatsoever getting a medical hardship waiver to play a fourth season. Unless there is some rule that I'm not aware of, it seems like an absolute no-brainer.
Med waiver isn’t the issue, 5 year rule waiver is. You have to miss 2 years due to circumstances outside of your control to get the waiver. He’s got 3 years left of eligibility, but only 3 years left to use them.
My guess is he thinks he’ll go pro early t
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I think Markus stays. Now it Truly Unfinished Business.
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The one way Marquette comes out of this looking okay is if David Hauser pulled a Tim Maymon.
Apparently, Mr. Hauser followed Michigan St. and then immediately deleted his Twitter account.
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The boys are going home to Madison, I'm hearing.
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Med waiver isn’t the issue, 5 year rule waiver is. You have to miss 2 years due to circumstances outside of your control to get the waiver. He’s got 3 years left of eligibility, but only 3 years left to use them.
My guess is he thinks he’ll go pro early t
Well, hopefully the hostel movies ain’t realistic.
Because his pro ball will have him living in those
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The boys are going home to Madison, I'm hearing.
JFC. If that happens just seriously fire Wojo today.
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4ever is so pissed he dropped his shtick
He's 100% right. Beyond losing Sam and Joey's talent, look at what this transfer says about Wojo's program.
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He's 100% right. Beyond losing Sam and Joey's talent, look at what this transfer says about Wojo's program.
What do u think this means for the program
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Calling Virginia right now. Will take beer bets with anyone
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Harry Froling’s Twitter right now is interesting...
Wojo could be gone by the end of the week if you think there’s any truth to what he’s tweeting.
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Felt like Joey was never happy
Yeah, and Wojo calling him out in the press earlier this year was likely a sign that he wasn't.
I'm guessing this is about Joey's NBA dreams. Sam was on this team for 3 years (all with Markus), and he and his family liked Wojo well enough after his freshman year to convince Joey to come to MU in the first place. But Joey had a disappointing year (in his eyes, at least), and sees his draft prospects dimming if things play out for him similarly next year.
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Their dream definitely was not to watch Howard shoot 50 times a game.
This has the ring of truth to me.
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Calling Virginia right now. Will take beer bets with anyone
Is the Virginia speculation coming from anywhere specific? Just wondering.
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JFC. If that happens just seriously fire Wojo today.
Who cares where they go.
I get why they left. The offense was running through Howard and he has not shown to be a capable distributor to date. These guys have NBA aspirations, they need exposure, and they were not getting it through Howard.
That being said, I LOVE Howard and am very much looking forward to how he jives with this offense next year with Koby hopefully running the point mostly.
Frankly, I would rather have this happen now then continued brewing discontent that obviously sidetracked this team down the stretch last year. I still think we're a top 25 team.
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At this point, I would not be surprised that Wojo does not survive this in the very near future.
Perhaps.
Counterpoint: Wojo gets a mulligan for next year and even moderate success is considered a huge accomplishment by the administration.
No inside info, just presenting an alternative possibility. We will see what happens.
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The boys are going home to Madison, I'm hearing.
Home? It's a half hour closer to Stevens Point to Madison than it is to Milwaukee.
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If the BOT had any balls they would have kicked Wojo to the curb after losing to Murray St. For me, its not about losing the Hausers, but rather the fooked up mess this program is in with Wojo.
BTW, y'all should not belittle those on this board who bring inside info just because you don't want to believe it. There is/was between the Hausers and Howard.
For sure. Sam does/did not want to stand around waving his arms while Markus takes shot after shot. No suprise this comes shortly after Markus decides to come back. What a frigging mess. I hope more don't follow.
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Harry Froling’s Twitter right now is interesting...
Wojo could be gone by the end of the week if you think there’s any truth to what he’s tweeting.
https://mobile.twitter.com/HarryFroling/status/1117849710033657857
Rip the bandaid off
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The boys are going home to Madison, I'm hearing.
Hopefully from the same guy who told you #donedeal about Markus leaving. And "home" lol
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Harry Froling’s Twitter right now is interesting...
Wojo could be gone by the end of the week if you think there’s any truth to what he’s tweeting.
Harry transfered from SMU then bolted to australia.
His brother bolted from Creighton back to australia.
Maybe they should just get better at basketball
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Harry transfered from SMU then bolted to australia.
His brother bolted from Creighton back to australia.
Maybe they should just get better at basketball
Didn’t realize his brother left as well. Yea, probably not much in that one then.
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Is the Virginia speculation coming from anywhere specific? Just wondering.
Same as another poster believing orange and white is their next color
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But Joey had a disappointing year (in his eyes, at least), and sees his draft prospects dimming if things play out for him similarly next year.
But why? This is arguably Joey's team after next year......
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Gonna miss Sam, he is a gifted player.
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Home? It's a half hour closer to Stevens Point to Madison than it is to Milwaukee.
wrong chico's you need a geography lesson
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https://mobile.twitter.com/HarryFroling/status/1117849710033657857
Rip the bandaid off
Unfortunately I think he means big things for Sam, as in excited for his friend and former teammate
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For sure. Sam does/did not want to stand around waving his arms while Markus takes shot after shot. No suprise this comes shortly after Markus decides to come back. What a frigging mess. I hope more don't follow.
Sam got plenty of shots.
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Unfortunately I think he means big things for Sam, as in excited for his friend and former teammate
Yeah he definitely does but the things he’s referring to can’t be ignored and apparently have been to this point
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Same as another poster believing orange and white is their next color
That's not really helpful but thanks anyway.
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What do u think this means for the program
Terrible for both the short and long-term.
Watching a guy like Sam Hauser walk out the door prior to his senior season, should make any recruit think twice about Wojo. A three-year starter, a guy who played thru a nasty hip injury, a cornerstone recruit, got his high touted brother to join him, now gone. You can't spin this. This is bad for the program, even worse for Wojo.
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Yeah he definitely does but the things he’s referring to can’t be ignored and apparently have been to this point
I have no inside knowledge and I'm not saying everything is perfect with MUBB, but you are putting wayyyy too much stock in a tweet from Harry f'in Froling.
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Not the end of the world. Need more athleticism at those two positions.
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https://twitter.com/BenSchmidt9/status/1117853575483408384
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Sam got plenty of shots.
If you say so
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Terrible for both the short and long-term.
Watching a guy like Sam Hauser walk out the door prior to his senior season, should make any recruit think twice about Wojo. A three-year starter, a guy who played thru a nasty hip injury, a cornerstone recruit, got his high touted brother to join him, now gone. You can't spin this. This is bad for the program, even worse for Wojo.
That’s why it doesn’t make sense though. What happened between last year and this year where Sam and Wojo convince Joey and the rest of the Hauser family to use his redshirt to transferring?
Like someone said earlier I think it’s a Joey issue rather then a Sam issue with probably some interference with David Hauser.
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I have no inside knowledge and I'm not saying everything is perfect with MUBB, but you are putting wayyyy too much stock in a tweet from Harry f'in Froling.
His tweet is just a small piece to the larger puzzle though
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https://twitter.com/BenSchmidt9/status/1117853575483408384
Oh the irony if true. Where’s 82 with some snark?
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Hopefully from the same guy who told you #donedeal about Markus leaving. And "home" lol
You really are dense.
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I have no inside knowledge and I'm not saying everything is perfect with MUBB, but you are putting wayyyy too much stock in a tweet from Harry f'in Froling.
Froling never saw a shot he couldn't make and didn't take anyway.
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Texas??
Lol they should fit well in Shaka system.
Especially Joey
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https://twitter.com/BenSchmidt9/status/1117853575483408384
If that tweet is true, they would be better served going to play for Buzz at TAMU to be honest.
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This is such a gut punch. Time heals everything, but right now, my level of interest in next season just took a nosedive. Seriously depressing sh*t.
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https://twitter.com/BenSchmidt9/status/1117853575483408384
Not loading for some reason could you embed or relay what it says?
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Not loading for some reason could you embed or relay what it says?
Shaka and Texas
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Not loading for some reason could you embed or relay what it says?
says they are going to TX to play for Shaka. A joke.
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wrong chico's you need a geography lesson
He’s not wrong, it’s a difference of 35 minutes, Madison being closer.
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Well unnatural carnal knowledge
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http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26530869/marquette-losing-hauser-brothers-transfer
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Harry Froling’s Twitter right now is interesting...
Wojo could be gone by the end of the week if you think there’s any truth to what he’s tweeting.
If you're going to post something like that, at least provide context.
Harry quoted Sam's tweet as said "People really have no idea what goes on behind closed doors! Goodluck borhter. Big things ahead."
Doesn't really seem that bad coming from a guy who has already transferred out.
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If that tweet is true, they would be better served going to play for Buzz at TAMU to be honest.
Both Hausers don't have the athleticism to play for Buzz
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My question is, what was Joey’s gripe? The kid got every opportunity to succeed as a Freshman on a top-25 team for much of the season.
If I remember right, so many people wanted him out of the starting lineup many times over this season because he was such a liability on defense and went into incredible slumps but he still got tons of minutes.
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My question is, what was Joey’s gripe? The kid got every opportunity to succeed as a Freshman on a top-25 team for much of the season.
If I remember right, so many people wanted him out of the starting lineup many times over this season because he was such a liability on defense and went into incredible slumps but he still got tons of minutes.
This reeks of something personal beyond on the court issues
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Michigan State possibly?
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Michigan State possibly?
That’s what I’m thinking. Mr. Hauser just followed them before deleting his twitter account.
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Balls.
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https://twitter.com/BenSchmidt9/status/1117853575483408384
So we have Wisconsin, VA, Texas. What looks the most reasonable? I'm leaning toward the Badgers.
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There already are at least a half-dozen threads going on, and probably will be more before I finish this. I'll put this here because it's as good a place as any ...
As many know, I have been one of Wojo's vocal supporters, but there is no doubt that this sets us back considerably, and I don't see how he or his program recovers. As one who usually defended him, I do feel let down; I can't lie about that.
As the "CEO" of his program, Wojo looks weak here, like he has little control over anything. It's a terrible look, and it means he is officially on the clock.
This, combined with the way it ended with the Ellensons, as well as some players earlier in his tenure (Taylor, Carter, Cheatham, Burton, Dawson, etc), even the Froling tweet ... all of it adds up. One can look at each situation and explain it, but coaches are great at negative recruiting, and right now Wojo is an easy mark for them.
"You're really considering Marquette? Have you heard about this? And this? And this and this and this? Do you really want your precious son to play for him?"
Obviously, this Hauser situation is more damning than any of the others -- Wisconsin kids leaving "home" even as the team seemed on the verge of greatness. I don't know how Wojo overcomes this. It's a vicious body-blow to his program.
As for the Hausers ...
I am one who said last week that they had options -- came right out and said they should transfer if they hated it so much -- so I am not going to rip them for doing just that. Nor will I bash them for their shortcomings that were part of our late-season collapse, because they had plenty of company in that department, including Wojo and Markus.
Lastly, as a person in his fifth decade of Marquette fandom, I am a little sad that some of Wojo's detractors seem almost giddy about this. I guess because it validates their opinions about him and lets them revel in their miserableness?
How wonderful that our program -- one that seemed on the verge of our best season in at least 7 years -- now will probably have yet another long stretch of suckitude.
Congrats, folks ... you "win"!
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Both Hausers don't have the athleticism to play for Buzz
Probably true, but they would be in much better shape after Buzz's training program.
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Hate to say it, but Sam & Joey gone makes a little sense of something I saw in Hartford.
Having been on road trips during my college days, there was a certain camaraderie -- at the hotels, at meal time, riding on the bus, etc. -- where we all stuck together, no matter our differences off the ice or back at school. If we had free time at the hotel - at the very least - the forwards (or each line) kept together, and the defense and goalies would hang together (sometimes together, sometimes separate). The only exception was when the captains would split off from their respective groups, but nobody stayed behind and nobody went out alone, ever.
Back in Hartford.... later that evening, after the Murray State game, my daughter and I were going back to our room when we ran into several players in the hotel hallway, who were chatting with (presumably) a donor. They were all together, dejected, but appearing somewhat relieved that the season was over. Let's put it this way... anyone who's ever seen a competitor have their heart ripped out could plainly see they were all leaning on, and supporting, one another (metaphorically speaking) in their moment of misery. As we're about to get to the elevator, out comes Theo, who catches up to the rest. After we get on the elevator, my daughter says, "he's pretty big," and it hits me... they were all bigs, but notably missing from that group was the brothers.
Granted, two different sports, two different eras... but personally, it struck me as odd how - what now turns out to be our entire front court next year - were hanging together sans the brothers.
Maybe Sam and Joey were doing the family thing with their parents, maybe they were with Todd tending to injuries, who knows. Just one person's observation that, while innocuous on its own, may now add a little color in the grand scheme in retrospect.
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Sam has to sit out a year, thought he'd be a grad transfer for sure in this case.
It just doesn't make sense for a guy the announcers thought would be an NBA player to sit out another year before trying to get paid. Just for what...more attention? Higher pick? Probably not for a better team. To wait to play with his brother when they are older and have a chance to really make a name for themselves as a duo? Don't get it.
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There already are at least a half-dozen threads going on, and probably will be more before I finish this. I'll put this here because it's as good a place as any ...
As many know, I have been one of Wojo's vocal supporters, but there is no doubt that this sets us back considerably, and I don't see how he or his program recovers. As one who usually defended him, I do feel let down; I can't lie about that.
As the "CEO" of his program, Wojo looks weak here, like he has little control over anything. It's a terrible look, and it means he is officially on the clock.
This, combined with the way it ended with the Ellensons, as well as some players earlier in his tenure (Taylor, Carter, Cheatham, Burton, Dawson, etc), even the Froling tweet ... all of it adds up. One can look at each situation and explain it, but coaches are great at negative recruiting, and right now Wojo is an easy mark for them.
"You're really considering Marquette? Have you heard about this? And this? And this and this and this? Do you really want your precious son to play for him?"
Obviously, this Hauser situation is more damning than any of the others -- Wisconsin kids leaving "home" even as the team seemed on the verge of greatness. I don't know how Wojo overcomes this. It's a vicious body-blow to his program.
As for the Hausers ...
I am one who said last week that they had options -- came right out and said they should transfer if they hated it so much -- so I am not going to rip them for doing just that. Nor will I bash them for their shortcomings that were part of our late-season collapse, because they had plenty of company in that department, including Wojo and Markus.
Lastly, as a person in his fifth decade of Marquette fandom, I am a little sad that some of Wojo's detractors seem almost giddy about this. I guess because it validates their opinions about him and lets them revel in their miserableness?
How wonderful that our program -- one that seemed on the verge of our best season in at least 7 years -- now will probably have yet another long stretch of suckitude.
Congrats, folks ... you "win"!
Thanks for saving me the trouble of typing this.
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neither will have a bigger role at any one the schools mentioned then they had here besides maybe wisconsin
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There already are at least a half-dozen threads going on, and probably will be more before I finish this. I'll put this here because it's as good a place as any ...
As many know, I have been one of Wojo's vocal supporters, but there is no doubt that this sets us back considerably, and I don't see how he or his program recovers. As one who usually defended him, I do feel let down; I can't lie about that.
As the "CEO" of his program, Wojo looks weak here, like he has little control over anything. It's a terrible look, and it means he is officially on the clock.
This, combined with the way it ended with the Ellensons, as well as some players earlier in his tenure (Taylor, Carter, Cheatham, Burton, Dawson, etc), even the Froling tweet ... all of it adds up. One can look at each situation and explain it, but coaches are great at negative recruiting, and right now Wojo is an easy mark for them.
"You're really considering Marquette? Have you heard about this? And this? And this and this and this? Do you really want your precious son to play for him?"
Obviously, this Hauser situation is more damning than any of the others -- Wisconsin kids leaving "home" even as the team seemed on the verge of greatness. I don't know how Wojo overcomes this. It's a vicious body-blow to his program.
As for the Hausers ...
I am one who said last week that they had options -- came right out and said they should transfer if they hated it so much -- so I am not going to rip them for doing just that. Nor will I bash them for their shortcomings that were part of our late-season collapse, because they had plenty of company in that department, including Wojo and Markus.
Lastly, as a person in his fifth decade of Marquette fandom, I am a little sad that some of Wojo's detractors seem almost giddy about this. I guess because it validates their opinions about him and lets them revel in their miserableness?
How wonderful that our program -- one that seemed on the verge of our best season in at least 7 years -- now will probably have yet another long stretch of suckitude.
Congrats, folks ... you "win"!
I have no idea which posts you’ve read that convey “giddiness”. I haven’t seen any
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Hope ND or Duke finds a place for them.
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I have no idea which posts you’ve read that convey “giddiness”. I haven’t seen any
"giddiness" might be the wrong word. I'll allow for that possibly being true. Unlike some, I won't pick a word (crapshoot) and stick with it even after it's proven to be obviously wrong.
More along the lines of: "OK, Wojo-lovers, are you happy now?" "I told you he sucks." "That's why I wanted him fired already!" etc. So maybe not giddiness that the Hausers are gone, we're gonna be mediocre again, and Wojo has been "exposed." Validation? Smugness? Bravado? Vindication? Call it what you whatever you want, my friend.
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Hate to say it, but Sam & Joey gone makes a little sense of something I saw in Hartford.
Having been on road trips during my college days, there was a certain camaraderie -- at the hotels, at meal time, riding on the bus, etc. -- where we all stuck together, no matter our differences off the ice or back at school. If we had free time at the hotel - at the very least - the forwards (or each line) kept together, and the defense and goalies would hang together (sometimes together, sometimes separate). The only exception was when the captains would split off from their respective groups, but nobody stayed behind and nobody went out alone, ever.
Back in Hartford.... later that evening, after the Murray State game, my daughter and I were going back to our room when we ran into several players in the hotel hallway, who were chatting with (presumably) a donor. They were all together, dejected, but appearing somewhat relieved that the season was over. Let's put it this way... anyone who's ever seen a competitor have their heart ripped out could plainly see they were all leaning on, and supporting, one another (metaphorically speaking) in their moment of misery. As we're about to get to the elevator, out comes Theo, who catches up to the rest. After we get on the elevator, my daughter says, "he's pretty big," and it hits me... they were all bigs, but notably missing from that group was the brothers.
Granted, two different sports, two different eras... but personally, it struck me as odd how - what now turns out to be our entire front court next year - were hanging together sans the brothers.
Maybe Sam and Joey were doing the family thing with their parents, maybe they were with Todd tending to injuries, who knows. Just one person's observation that, while innocuous on its own, may now add a little color in the grand scheme in retrospect.
I tend to agree with your conclusion.
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"giddiness" might be the wrong word. I'll allow for that possibly being true. Unlike some, I won't pick a word (crapshoot) and stick with it even after it's proven to be obviously wrong.
More along the lines of: "OK, Wojo-lovers, are you happy now?" "I told you he sucks." "That's why I wanted him fired already!" etc. So maybe not giddiness that the Hausers are gone, we're gonna be mediocre again, and Wojo has been "exposed." Validation? Smugness? Bravado? Vindication? Call it what you whatever you want, my friend.
How about this. You haven’t been feeling well. You think you have a condition/sickness/virus contributing to it. Others say you’re fine and you’re being dramatic or a hypochondriac. You go to a specialist and it turns out you have what you feared was plaguing you. You’re not happy or giddy, but you’re confirmed and vindicated in your thinking. And better yet, now you can truly move forwarding in fixing/healing the problem.
I’ve never been a Wojo hater. But it’s been a LONG time since I’ve seen the wheels come off a team I love like that. And when everything should be peaking, it just seemed odd and off. This just further confirms it. I thought Wojo was a dynamite recruiter and a very lacking coach. This shows that he’s lacking in coaching ability beyond just Xs and Os
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We'll be ok. GO MARQUETTE
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Sam has to sit out a year, thought he'd be a grad transfer for sure in this case.
It just doesn't make sense for a guy the announcers thought would be an NBA player to sit out another year before trying to get paid. Just for what...more attention? Higher pick? Probably not for a better team. To wait to play with his brother when they are older and have a chance to really make a name for themselves as a duo? Don't get it.
People keep saying "It doesn't make sense!" and everyone nods in agreement. Well, it doesn't make sense if the Hausers were a little unhappy. Hell, it doesn't even make sense if they were a lot unhappy. It only makes sense if they were "The thought of having to do this again with these people makes me physically ill" unhappy.
Either the Hausers are an incredibly arrogant and selfish family or Wojo screwed up badly. My guess is the latter. Anyway, I guess we can put to rest those reports from the banquet about how happy the Hausers were and how excited they were for the coming season. And some here owe apologies to Crash, onepost and others (the entire "under board") who saw this coming.
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Where’s wades? Can’t tell anyone anything on here without getting crucified.
Is it a big shocker? Markus chucks the ball, and the offense goes stagnant 90% of the time
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How about this. You haven’t been feeling well. You think you have a condition/sickness/virus contributing to it. Others say you’re fine and you’re being dramatic or a hypochondriac. You go to a specialist and it turns out you have what you feared was plaguing you. You’re not happy or giddy, but you’re confirmed and vindicated in your thinking. And better yet, now you can truly move forwarding in fixing/healing the problem.
I’ve never been a Wojo hater. But it’s been a LONG time since I’ve seen the wheels come off a team I love that. And when everything should be peaking, it just seemed odd and off. This just further confirms it. I thought Wojo was a dynamite recruiter and a very lacking coach. This shows that he’s lacking in coaching ability beyond just Xs and Os
Thanks for posting this. Makes a lot of sense.
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5 years to judge is just a little too long to judge. Writing was on the wall early on. Completely out of his league. Still don't know what Wojo did for all those years sitting next to K.
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5 years to judge is just a little too long to judge. Writing was on the wall early on. Completely out of his league. Still don't know what Wojo did for all those years sitting next to K.
Head flusher? Oh wait....that is a different coach...
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John Fanta
@John_Fanta
Hearing that Virginia is a potential frontrunner in the race to get the Hauser Brothers. These are a pair of high-level players in the portal.
10:45 AM - 15 Apr 2019
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People keep saying "It doesn't make sense!" and everyone nods in agreement. Well, it doesn't make sense if the Hausers were a little unhappy. Hell, it doesn't even make sense if they were a lot unhappy. It only makes sense if they were "The thought of having to do this again with these people makes me physically ill" unhappy.
Either the Hausers are an incredibly arrogant and selfish family or Wojo screwed up badly. My guess is the latter. Anyway, I guess we can put to rest those reports from the banquet about how happy the Hausers were and how excited they were for the coming season. And some here owe apologies to Crash, onepost and others (the entire "under board") who saw this coming.
While I will never put it past someone (or two) to go off on nothing, the odds just don't work. this has to be an epic-level f---up.
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With the Virginia news coming to the forefront, what are the chances their thoughts were made up just within the last couple weeks? After a disappointing end to the year and early exit to the tournament, I have to imagine they're watching some programs throughout the tournament and envision themselves fitting in with. Who thinks their minds were made up well before we heard Markus was returning? Feel like it happened more recently and his decision to return was the most recent catalyst.
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People keep saying "It doesn't make sense!" and everyone nods in agreement. Well, it doesn't make sense if the Hausers were a little unhappy. Hell, it doesn't even make sense if they were a lot unhappy. It only makes sense if they were "The thought of having to do this again with these people makes me physically ill" unhappy.
Either the Hausers are an incredibly arrogant and selfish family or Wojo screwed up badly. My guess is the latter. Anyway, I guess we can put to rest those reports from the banquet about how happy the Hausers were and how excited they were for the coming season. And some here owe apologies to Crash, onepost and others (the entire "under board") who saw this coming.
Seems like former AND latter to me.
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With the Virginia news coming to the forefront, what are the chances their thoughts were made up just within the last couple weeks? After a disappointing end to the year and early exit to the tournament, I have to imagine they're watching some programs throughout the tournament and envision themselves fitting in with. Who thinks their minds were made up well before we heard Markus was returning? Feel like it happened more recently and his decision to return was the most recent catalyst.
Agreed. 3 days after Markus saying he was staying. Not a coincidence.
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Now that this crapstorm is past its peak...
What's with the major amount of hate that people get when they come to the board with "insider" information? Isn't that what this board is all about? Us plebs coming to share knowledge about the program with each other?
The crucifixions that happen when someone is "wrong" about something on this board are incredible. "Wrong" is in parentheses because you can't be "wrong" when sharing a rumor they heard.
Guess I'll keep everything to myself from now on. Sheesh.
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I blame Tyler Herro worship
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What's with the major amount of hate that people get when they come to the board with "insider" information? Isn't that what this board is all about? Us plebs coming to share knowledge about the program with each other?
Ignore them. Thanks for the scoop.
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5 years to judge is just a little too long to judge. Writing was on the wall early on. Completely out of his league. Still don't know what Wojo did for all those years sitting next to K.
What every former Duke player turned assistant does: sit back while McDonald's AA's on their do their thing then K dominates in the huddle.
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With the Virginia news coming to the forefront, what are the chances their thoughts were made up just within the last couple weeks? After a disappointing end to the year and early exit to the tournament, I have to imagine they're watching some programs throughout the tournament and envision themselves fitting in with. Who thinks their minds were made up well before we heard Markus was returning? Feel like it happened more recently and his decision to return was the most recent catalyst.
UVA was Sam's other finalist when he chose Marquette. I most certainly believe that both he and Joey saw what they did and thought they could be a part of that.
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How about this. You haven’t been feeling well. You think you have a condition/sickness/virus contributing to it. Others say you’re fine and you’re being dramatic or a hypochondriac. You go to a specialist and it turns out you have what you feared was plaguing you. You’re not happy or giddy, but you’re confirmed and vindicated in your thinking. And better yet, now you can truly move forwarding in fixing/healing the problem.
I’ve never been a Wojo hater. But it’s been a LONG time since I’ve seen the wheels come off a team I love like that. And when everything should be peaking, it just seemed odd and off. This just further confirms it. I thought Wojo was a dynamite recruiter and a very lacking coach. This shows that he’s lacking in coaching ability beyond just Xs and Os
That’s a pretty good analogy. And like in that instance you’re sure as hell not happy you were right. No one’s feeling happy they right about Wojo not being the long term answer. All MU fans who doubted Wojo wanted nothing more than to be completely wrong.
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Now that this crapstorm is past its peak...
What's with the major amount of hate that people get when they come to the board with "insider" information? Isn't that what this board is all about? Us plebs coming to share knowledge about the program with each other?
The crucifixions that happen when someone is "wrong" about something on this board are incredible. "Wrong" is in parentheses because you can't be "wrong" when sharing a rumor they heard.
Guess I'll keep everything to myself from now on. Sheesh.
Scoops are always appreciated. But when you come speaking definitively and certainly, it better be right or people are going to be annoyed. Thats why I chirped you. You touted your Vander inside info and then were dead wrong about Markus and said "welp I guess he changed his mind". Then again spoke definitively about where the Hausers were going an hour after they announced they were leaving. Happy to eat crow if you're right, quote me on it. But if you're passing off information or rumblings as cold hard fact, don't get your feathers ruffled if people throw shade when you're incorrect, thats all.
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Scoops are always appreciated. But when you come speaking definitively and certainly, it better be right or people are going to be annoyed. Thats why I chirped you. You touted your Vander inside info and then were dead wrong about Markus and said "welp I guess he changed his mind". Then again spoke definitively about where the Hausers were going an hour after they announced they were leaving. Happy to eat crow if you're right, quote me on it. But if you're passing off information or rumblings as cold hard fact, don't get your feathers ruffled if people throw shade when you're incorrect, thats all.
I take everything on this board with a grain of salt.
I strictly pass on information I hear. Take it with a grain of salt. I shouldn't speak definitively. My bad.
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I take everything on this board with a grain of salt.
I strictly pass on information I hear. Take it with a grain of salt. I shouldn't speak definitively. My bad.
You only break bad news, if you break that JJ is coming I guarantee people will love you.
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Ignore them. Thanks for the scoop.
Agree
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I take everything on this board with a grain of salt.
I strictly pass on information I hear. Take it with a grain of salt. I shouldn't speak definitively. My bad.
All good man. Everyone is testy and anxious, myself included.
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Now that this crapstorm is past its peak...
What's with the major amount of hate that people get when they come to the board with "insider" information? Isn't that what this board is all about? Us plebs coming to share knowledge about the program with each other?
The crucifixions that happen when someone is "wrong" about something on this board are incredible. "Wrong" is in parentheses because you can't be "wrong" when sharing a rumor they heard.
Guess I'll keep everything to myself from now on. Sheesh.
You know the drill man. When people don’t like the message they attack the messenger. I for one appreciate all you’ve shared and have said as much. I’m sure your Howard info was accurate at the time you posted it and things changed. Keep sharing what you hear.
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Thanks for saving me the trouble of typing this.
It wasn't what we wanted, but we could see the plain truth in front of our eyes. You chose to bury your head to reality. Congrats on pulling your heads out of....the sand.
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I see the Wojo era different than most but it is how I see it.
How many times did we hear Markus, Markus, Markus? Wojo the cheerleader for Markus. Wojo the super fan of Markus. That is great but in truth Markus is a great shooter, but little else. He is not a D Wade, Doc Rivers, Butch Lee or Dean Meminger. Markus is the best 3 point shooter of the group but not the best player. He deserves praise but not at the expense of the Team.
Wojo simply does not understand what it means to actually implement, "our strength is our team". His continued admiration and lauding of Markus was well beyond his overall skill set. He is not a team player. By continuously praising Markus and not reining him in alienated other very good players on the team and undermined the Team concept. We are now suffering the results of his inability to handle highly competitive players. Yes Markus is a great shooter but the Hausers deserved more public attention given their contribution. And, yes let's not forget Joey was a Freshman filling a sophomore's role. Not reining Markus in is Wojo's downfall.
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Markus
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I see the Wojo era different than most but it is how I see it.
How many times did we hear Marcus, Marcus, Marcus? Wojo the cheerleader for Marcus. Wojo the super fan of Marcus. That is great but in truth Marcus is a great shooter, but little else. He is not a D Wade, Doc Rivers, Butch Lee or Dean Meminger. Marcus is the best 3 point shooter of the group but not the best player. He deserves praise but not at the expense of the Team.
Wojo simply does not understand what it means to actually implement, "our strength is our team". His continued admiration and lauding of Marcus was well beyond his overall skill set. He is not a team player. By continuously praising Marcus and not reining him in alienated other very good players on the team and undermined the Team concept. We are now suffering the results of his inability to handle highly competitive players. Yes Marcus is a great shooter but the Hausers deserved more public attention given their contribution. And, yes let's not forget Joey was a Freshman filling a sophomore's role. Not reining Marcus in is Wojo's downfall.
..and when did Wojo reign in Joey or Sam. There were times I would have liked to seen more Jamal or Brendan, but when they made a mistake it was "pine city". Joey and Sam were free to have bad games but the others could not even have a bad 5 minutes. So don't say Wojo only deferred only to Markus.
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..and when did Wojo reign in Joey or Sam. There were times I would have liked to seen more Jamal or Brendan, but when they made a mistake it was "pine city". Joey and Sam were free to have bad games but the others could not even have a bad 5 minutes. So don't say Wojo only deferred only to Markus.
Valid point.
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John Fanta
@John_Fanta
Hearing that Virginia is a potential frontrunner in the race to get the Hauser Brothers. These are a pair of high-level players in the portal.
10:45 AM - 15 Apr 2019
Connections, connections, connections
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Just a theory, but I'm trying to make sense of this. Sam seemed to be happy his first two years here. Then this year, Joey joined the lineup. Some posters here have called Joey "too soft". Is it possible Wojo was too tough behind closed doors for Joey to handle? Is Sam being the "good brother" because Joey couldn't take Wojo's heat and Joey became increasingly miserable as the season went on? Does anyone have any background knowledge of this that could confirm or deny my theory?
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Just a theory, but I'm trying to make sense of this. Sam seemed to be happy his first two years here. Then this year, Joey joined the lineup. Some posters here have called Joey "too soft". Is it possible Wojo was too tough behind closed doors for Joey to handle? Is Sam being the "good brother" because Joey couldn't take Wojo's heat and Joey became increasingly miserable as the season went on? Does anyone have any background knowledge of this that could confirm or deny my theory?
Some people who claim to be in the know say its the opposite. Sam wanted out, Joey is following. No one seems to be sure of Sam's reasoning for wanting out.
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There already are at least a half-dozen threads going on, and probably will be more before I finish this. I'll put this here because it's as good a place as any ...
As many know, I have been one of Wojo's vocal supporters, but there is no doubt that this sets us back considerably, and I don't see how he or his program recovers. As one who usually defended him, I do feel let down; I can't lie about that.
As the "CEO" of his program, Wojo looks weak here, like he has little control over anything. It's a terrible look, and it means he is officially on the clock.
This, combined with the way it ended with the Ellensons, as well as some players earlier in his tenure (Taylor, Carter, Cheatham, Burton, Dawson, etc), even the Froling tweet ... all of it adds up. One can look at each situation and explain it, but coaches are great at negative recruiting, and right now Wojo is an easy mark for them.
"You're really considering Marquette? Have you heard about this? And this? And this and this and this? Do you really want your precious son to play for him?"
Obviously, this Hauser situation is more damning than any of the others -- Wisconsin kids leaving "home" even as the team seemed on the verge of greatness. I don't know how Wojo overcomes this. It's a vicious body-blow to his program.
As for the Hausers ...
I am one who said last week that they had options -- came right out and said they should transfer if they hated it so much -- so I am not going to rip them for doing just that. Nor will I bash them for their shortcomings that were part of our late-season collapse, because they had plenty of company in that department, including Wojo and Markus.
Lastly, as a person in his fifth decade of Marquette fandom, I am a little sad that some of Wojo's detractors seem almost giddy about this. I guess because it validates their opinions about him and lets them revel in their miserableness?
How wonderful that our program -- one that seemed on the verge of our best season in at least 7 years -- now will probably have yet another long stretch of suckitude.
Congrats, folks ... you "win"!
Brother 82, trust me that I take no joy in this, I'm sick. 1000x worse than the Murray State loss - while that was damning in it's own right there is enough to the "crap shoot" narrative to be able to move on from that.
I agree I don't see how Wojo BB can bounce back from this. This wasn't a "bad night" but a clearly calculated decision culminating from a long festering something. To lose Sam, a fan favourite that embodied everything Wojo wanted MUBB to be (hard working, smart BB, et ) from a tram with legit final four hopes is just a bombshell. Nothing to gain by pulling the plug on Wojo for next year, there's enough of a team there - but unless Wojo pulls off something magical next year in terms of NCAA or recruiting success he needs to be gone by this time next year.
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1SE, that’s exactly my sentiments. I can’t imagine Sam’s rationale, but he’s welcome to make whatever choice he wants. He certainly doesn’t owe me, or any other fans, anything.
Still, I will remain confused, and see it as a very bad look for Wojo. I’ve been one to give him a lot of slack, but he absolutely needs to guide the team to a very strong season next year, even without the Hausers, and get a solid recruiting class for 2020, or else I’ll be ready for a change.
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Brother 82, trust me that I take no joy in this, I'm sick. 1000x worse than the Murray State loss - while that was damning in it's own right there is enough to the "crap shoot" narrative to be able to move on from that.
I agree I don't see how Wojo BB can bounce back from this. This wasn't a "bad night" but a clearly calculated decision culminating from a long festering something. To lose Sam, a fan favourite that embodied everything Wojo wanted MUBB to be (hard working, smart BB, et ) from a tram with legit final four hopes is just a bombshell. Nothing to gain by pulling the plug on Wojo for next year, there's enough of a team there - but unless Wojo pulls off something magical next year in terms of NCAA or recruiting success he needs to be gone by this time next year.
Why are people burying their head in the sand thinking Wojo might pull something off next year. He just lost two starters, one of them being Sam, the best player on the team. That, with the melt down this year spells big time bull crap next year.
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Why are people burying their head in the sand thinking Wojo might pull something off next year. He just lost two starters, one of them being Sam, the best player on the team. That, with the melt down this year spells big time bull crap next year.
I don't think people are burying their heads in the sand. Due to the timing of this (hopefully 'this' is all the bad news), it is not an ideal time to make a coaching change. I think the vast majority of MU fans expect to have a new coach next year. Just have to ride the year out and drive down the "buy-out". (and who knows?.., maybe Wojo catches BB IQ in a bottle).
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1SE, that’s exactly my sentiments. I can’t imagine Sam’s rationale, but he’s welcome to make whatever choice he wants. He certainly doesn’t owe me, or any other fans, anything.
Still, I will remain confused, and see it as a very bad look for Wojo. I’ve been one to give him a lot of slack, but he absolutely needs to guide the team to a very strong season next year, even without the Hausers, and get a solid recruiting class for 2020, or else I’ll be ready for a change.
Agreed.
I can't see how this isn't a bad decision for both Sam and Wojo. Messed up that they couldn't figure out a way to make this work, because I don't see how this benefits either. Sam is going to be less than six months from his 24th birthday by the time he can play pro ball. That's not appealing to the NBA.
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Bart Torvik's system dropped Marquette from 13th to 57th after the news. Ick. http://barttorvik.com/trankpre.php
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Bart Torvik's system dropped Marquette from 13th to 57th after the news. Ick. http://barttorvik.com/trankpre.php
Sounds about right. Bubble team.
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..and when did Wojo reign in Joey or Sam. There were times I would have liked to seen more Jamal or Brendan, but when they made a mistake it was "pine city". Joey and Sam were free to have bad games but the others could not even have a bad 5 minutes. So don't say Wojo only deferred only to Markus.
Well it looks like your Likes will happen.
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The Hauser boys were really the one thing Wojo did that gave me any hope he was not in over his head. I’ll say it now, he is in way over his head. There is no silver lining for the news today.
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The Hauser boys were really the one thing Wojo did that gave me any hope he was not in over his head. I’ll say it now, he is in way over his head. There is no silver lining for the news today.
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooose
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The Hauser boys were really the one thing Wojo did that gave me any hope he was not in over his head. I’ll say it now, he is in way over his head. There is no silver lining for the news today.
Nope there really isn’t. I only wish it’d happened sooner and maybe we could’ve moved on a replacement coach. Considering there’s no way the admin could’ve been completely blindsided by this maybe they should’ve proactively made a move. Now it’s too late.
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Nope there really isn’t. I only wish it’d happened sooner and maybe we could’ve moved on a replacement coach. Considering there’s no way the admin could’ve been completely blindsided by this maybe they should’ve proactively made a move. Now it’s too late.
Not true, The AL was going crazy today. It was pretty sudden.
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Not true, The AL was going crazy today. It was pretty sudden.
That seems so hard to believe. Their displeasure had to have been known by those inside the program it would seem.
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The thing is, are we *only* losing the Hausers? It’s been said on here that a couple other guys were also considering a transfer. Obviously a lot of minutes just opened up, but we might not be done yet.
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Not true, The AL was going crazy today. It was pretty sudden.
Does Wojo know what's going on with his team? Today most likely cost him millions of dollars. He needs to be smarter.
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The thing is, are we *only* losing the Hausers? It’s been said on here that a couple other guys were also considering a transfer. Obviously a lot of minutes just opened up, but we might not be done yet.
Maybe the Hausers were the problem and a lot of other players are relieved?
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While I will never put it past someone (or two) to go off on nothing, the odds just don't work. this has to be an epic-level f---up.
Now that....is righteous!
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That seems so hard to believe. Their displeasure had to have been known by those inside the program it would seem.
Could indicate it was a quick emotionally driven decision. or they just kept their displeasure quiet
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WTF happened that everyone is suddenly unhappy now?? projected top 5 team and the team is in utter disarray now? how many guys are considering transferring? if wojo cant keep a top 5 projected team content then what can he do? None of these guys were Big time recruits so idk what they are unhappy with. Markus taking to many shots? Wojo complelty screwing the team somehow. sheesh
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Could indicate it was a quick emotionally driven decision. or they just kept their displeasure quiet
Exactly.
It was sudden as of 3 days ago.
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1SE, that’s exactly my sentiments. I can’t imagine Sam’s rationale, but he’s welcome to make whatever choice he wants. He certainly doesn’t owe me, or any other fans, anything.
Still, I will remain confused, and see it as a very bad look for Wojo. I’ve been one to give him a lot of slack, but he absolutely needs to guide the team to a very strong season next year, even without the Hausers, and get a solid recruiting class for 2020, or else I’ll be ready for a change.
I wonder if Dad and Mom had it out with Wojo. Also wonder did Bennet reach out to the Hauser's or the Hauser's to Bennet before the sh!t hit the fan. I agree, Wojo is not a cool collected guy but rather wound up. He always seem to have lost his voice in those huddles.
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I wonder if Dad and Mom had it out with Wojo. Also wonder did Bennet reach out to the Hauser's or the Hauser's to Bennet before the sh!t hit the fan. I agree, Wojo is not a cool collected guy but rather wound up. He always seem to have lost his voice in those huddles.
hes just kind of a baby out there sometimes. Stomping his feet and screaming every time the opposing team scores. Face red as ketchup. Just a bit over the top at times. Embarrassed himself running on the court at the GTOWN game. off the court wojo lacks charisma and personality. just seems kind of dull. Buzz knew how to inspire
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Clearly Stan knew the Hauser's were quitters... :P
https://twitter.com/MUCoachJohnson/status/1117016584978083840
God is going to do something so big in your life that it will shock your enemies and change your world. Don’t quit! Don’t give up! The things you’ve been dreaming about are closer than they may appear. There’s a mighty blessing with your name on it coming your way! #faith
3:48 AM - 13 Apr 2019
BTW, Markus retweeted this.
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This is the time of the year when coaches sit down with players and tell them the long term plan and what they need to work on in the offseason.
It very likely could be that the Hauser's did not like the role envisioned for them, and/or did not like the feedback on what they needed to work on.
Things could have been just fine up til Friday, and when the end of the season report came in, and the planned role for next season arrived, they were unhappy and made a snap decision over the weekend.
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Clearly Stan knew the Hauser's were quitters... :P
https://twitter.com/MUCoachJohnson/status/1117016584978083840
BTW, Markus retweeted this.
So did Koby, so did Ike. I don’t think the Hausers are blameless here.
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Things could have been just fine up til Friday, and when the end of the season report came in, and the planned role for next season arrived, they were unhappy and made a snap decision over the weekend.
It was anything but a snap decision.
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Not true, The AL was going crazy today. It was pretty sudden.
Then they misread the situation.
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Could indicate it was a quick emotionally driven decision. or they just kept their displeasure quiet
Assuming that the Hauser family made this monumental a decision quickly and capriciously would be insulting to them. Doesn't pass muster.
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So did Koby, so did Ike. I don’t think the Hausers are blameless here.
So did Jaedon Lee's mom.... He hit the mythical portal a few days ago.
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Things could have been just fine up til Friday, and when the end of the season report came in, and the planned role for next season arrived, they were unhappy and made a snap decision over the weekend.
Forgetful: "So what are the chances? One in a thousand?"
Any logical Scooper who has been following this affair: "More like one in a million."
Forgetful: "So you're sayin' there's a chance!"
Straight out of Dumb and Dumber.
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5 years to judge is just a little too long to judge. Writing was on the wall early on. Completely out of his league. Still don't know what Wojo did for all those years sitting next to K.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cXdQJZMjwI
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Where’s wades? Can’t tell anyone anything on here without getting crucified.
Is it a big shocker? Markus chucks the ball, and the offense goes stagnant 90% of the time
Living in your head.