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Re: 2019 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #600 on: April 06, 2019, 03:59:08 PM »
flight tracker shows a flight this morning from Philly (kinda sorta near Baltimore) to Charlotte (kinda sorta near Blacksburg almost).

What more evidence do you need?  Odom is a #donedeal.

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Re: 2019 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #601 on: April 06, 2019, 04:05:55 PM »
Now mid major coaches don't want it.....

Buzz must be leaving the cupboard "very bare"......

UMBC is a mid-major?  Even sadder

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« Reply #604 on: April 06, 2019, 05:43:48 PM »
flight tracker shows a flight this morning from Philly (kinda sorta near Baltimore) to Charlotte (kinda sorta near Blacksburg almost).

What more evidence do you need?  Odom is a #donedeal.

Jay Wright is going to VT?! Well, cancel the BE!

Also, Odom would’ve been smart to take this. I don’t know what they have returning but I can’t imagine the iron will ever be hotter for him.
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« Reply #605 on: April 06, 2019, 05:50:00 PM »
Jay Wright is going to VT?! Well, cancel the BE!

Also, Odom would’ve been smart to take this. I don’t know what they have returning but I can’t imagine the iron will ever be hotter for him.
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Re: 2019 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #606 on: April 06, 2019, 05:51:14 PM »
Jay Wright is going to VT?! Well, cancel the BE!

Also, Odom would’ve been smart to take this. I don’t know what they have returning but I can’t imagine the iron will ever be hotter for him.

Agree. If you’re the coach of a low major then you should accept any high major opening imo.

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Re: 2019 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #607 on: April 06, 2019, 06:57:54 PM »
Agree. If you’re the coach of a low major then you should accept any high major opening imo.

I don't buy this, necessarily. The situation has to be right. Moving up to a place where it's very tough to win might be a way to get yourself fired in a few years. Because they've had some success recently, the expectations and pressure will probably be higher than they've ever been at VT.

It's really tough to be the guy who follows The Guy, and Buzz is about as close to The Guy as VT hoops has ever had.

(Full disclosure: That being said, I also think Odom should take the job. Coaching in the ACC is a huge opportunity, and you might not get the chance again.)
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« Reply #608 on: April 06, 2019, 08:03:11 PM »
I don't buy this, necessarily. The situation has to be right. Moving up to a place where it's very tough to win might be a way to get yourself fired in a few years. Because they've had some success recently, the expectations and pressure will probably be higher than they've ever been at VT.

It's really tough to be the guy who follows The Guy, and Buzz is about as close to The Guy as VT hoops has ever had.

(Full disclosure: That being said, I also think Odom should take the job. Coaching in the ACC is a huge opportunity, and you might not get the chance again.)
Sustaining excellence at mid Major is also tough. The successful ones  tend to be senior oriented teams .
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« Reply #609 on: April 06, 2019, 09:07:23 PM »
Or maybe, like Few or McKillop, you just love where you are and can make a great living there.
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« Reply #610 on: April 06, 2019, 09:21:57 PM »
VT getting reminded of what type of basketball program they actually have. Buzz covered those warts for a bit
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« Reply #611 on: April 07, 2019, 08:06:18 AM »
VT getting reminded of what type of basketball program they actually have. Buzz covered those warts for a bit

The tears taste so sweet.

However, according to VT Scoop, Wojo, Willard and Odom were never actually offered. Babcock doesn't have leaks.

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« Reply #612 on: April 07, 2019, 09:18:55 AM »
@GoodmanHoops: Arkansas is in negotiations with Nevada coach Eric Musselman and, barring a last-minute collapse, he will be the next coach for the Razorbacks, source told @Stadium

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« Reply #613 on: April 07, 2019, 09:34:54 AM »
@GoodmanHoops: Arkansas is in negotiations with Nevada coach Eric Musselman and, barring a last-minute collapse, he will be the next coach for the Razorbacks, source told @Stadium

Would be a very good hire for Arkansas IMO

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« Reply #614 on: April 07, 2019, 09:43:16 AM »
On a flight from keys to midway last evening
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« Reply #615 on: April 07, 2019, 03:56:13 PM »
The Va Tech drama is over...Mike Young from Wofford will be their next Coach

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1114992670978576384
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Re: 2019 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #616 on: April 07, 2019, 04:08:08 PM »
Oh no! Wojo to Wofford?
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Re: 2019 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #617 on: April 07, 2019, 04:19:39 PM »
The Va Tech drama is over...Mike Young from Wofford will be their next Coach

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1114992670978576384

That seems underwhelming. Young is this year's Porter Moser. The guy who overachieved massively compared to his career trajectory. Smart of Young to capitalize on it, but he's had one top-75 team in 16 years. Maybe he'll succeed, but his track record thus far doesn't suggest it.
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« Reply #618 on: April 07, 2019, 04:23:43 PM »
That seems underwhelming. Young is this year's Porter Moser. The guy who overachieved massively compared to his career trajectory. Smart of Young to capitalize on it, but he's had one top-75 team in 16 years. Maybe he'll succeed, but his track record thus far doesn't suggest it.

And no experience, even as an assistant, at the high major level.
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« Reply #619 on: April 07, 2019, 04:39:19 PM »
That seems underwhelming. Young is this year's Porter Moser. The guy who overachieved massively compared to his career trajectory. Smart of Young to capitalize on it, but he's had one top-75 team in 16 years. Maybe he'll succeed, but his track record thus far doesn't suggest it.

I agree with this 100%...I can understand why their fans aren't happy..then again, you can only hire who wants the job. They obviously tried for bigger names, and for various reasons they didn't work out. Though I obviously have no clue who they contacted and didn't, but Mike Rhoades from VCU would have seemed like a logical fit there. Heck, even Greg Marshall is from Virginia. I don't know if they contacted him, and he has obviously turned down better jobs, but still.
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« Reply #620 on: April 07, 2019, 04:51:39 PM »
The Va Tech drama is over...Mike Young from Wofford will be their next Coach

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1114992670978576384

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« Reply #621 on: April 07, 2019, 05:06:53 PM »
Unlike Loyola under Moser, Wofford has been a good, competitive program for years under Young.

Since 2010, they have made the NCAA tournament 5 times, and have been by far the best team in their conference.

Over the years, they lost NCAA tourney games by 4 to Wisconsin, by 8 to BYU, by 3 to Arkansas and this year by 6 to Kentucky (after crushing Seton Hall). In recent years, they have won road games against the likes of UNC, NC State and S Carolina.

The truth, of course, is that nobody knows today if Mike Young will be a good, bad or mediocre coach at VaTech.

Yep, if we had hired Chris Beard in 2014, Scoop would have gone ballistic.
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« Reply #622 on: April 07, 2019, 05:24:41 PM »
Obviously no one knows, but in the past 4 years, Young had a losing record twice. Meanwhile, Forbes at ETSU, Miller at UNCG, & Richey at Furman have 10 combined seasons in that span. Only 1 losing season (Miller 4 years ago) and 9/10 where each tallied at least 23 wins. And all are younger than Young.

And Chris Beard is a unicorn. Not a fair comparison in either direction.
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« Reply #623 on: April 07, 2019, 05:25:30 PM »
That’s a strange way to spell Wojo’s last name

And odd flights. From NC to IN to VA. Weird.
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« Reply #624 on: April 07, 2019, 05:30:21 PM »
I agree with this 100%...I can understand why their fans aren't happy..then again, you can only hire who wants the job. They obviously tried for bigger names, and for various reasons they didn't work out. Though I obviously have no clue who they contacted and didn't, but Mike Rhoades from VCU would have seemed like a logical fit there. Heck, even Greg Marshall is from Virginia. I don't know if they contacted him, and he has obviously turned down better jobs, but still.

With Marshall you are competing with money from the Koch Brothers (no politics, please), who also provide him and his family with unlimited use of one of their private jets.  They ponied up to raise his salary to $3 million in 2015 and his salary agreement is to keep him paid in the top $10 annually.

Interesting that Ryan Odom turned them down. Hmmm, maybe his dad’s old school, Wake next year when Danny Manning isvfired.
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