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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MuggsyB on January 18, 2021, 05:54:19 PM
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Dominic had a 42....
Top 5?
Remember there is an animal on our planet that has a 600 inch vert. :)
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Charles Luter before he hurt his knee. Don't know the numbers, but it definitely passed the eye test.
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Artie Green back in the day would have competed for the top spot.
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Yes Luter. Watertown NW Prep.
Trend as well.
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Artie "Grasshopper" Green
Jim "Cloudpiercer" Dudley
DJO
Ric "Elevator Man" Cobb
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Ners
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Mark Harris has to be up there (no pun intended). 5-8 dunking machine.
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DJO set the record IIRC.
Ners
Amazing
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Wally E must have had a pretty decent one.
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Forgot Deonte too.
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Dudley and Artie had big hops. Doc is up there and DJames.
Dr. B
Good call on Burton
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Forgot Deonte too.
Good Call. I'd say 39-40.
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Ners
Lol!
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Artie Green's leaping ability was off the charts.
Hank used him for the opening tip, and he'd often have Artie line up as the inside rebounder on FTs. Lots of alley-oops, too.
Green was listed at 6-2, BTW.
Rivers could sky, too.
Oh, and I literally laughed out loud at "Ners." Thanks!
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DWade? Anyone?
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Artie could leap Tosa Gas with one quick hop, aina?
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DWade? Anyone?
36"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/467751-michael-jordan-dominates-the-vertical-jump-wherersquos-carter-and-kobe.amp.html
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Davante?
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Ners
No need to state the obvious. Perhaps no one has ever spent more time up in the ozone.
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DWade? Anyone?
I think he only had a 35. What is Mrs. Gato's vert?
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Good Call. I'd say 39-40.
His no step vertical was under 33" (the list from his NBA year stopped there). His max vert with an approach was 39.5", so I guess it depends on whether you are listing no-step or max vert.
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Rick Smith?
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Ners
But that was in HS
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Ike Eke
From the article on his retirement: “He still flashed athletic gifts, including setting the program's record for vertical leap before last season.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.jsonline.com/amp/1903697001
Would have really enjoyed seeing him in action.
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Ike Eke
From the article on his retirement: “He still flashed athletic gifts, including setting the program's record for vertical leap before last season.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.jsonline.com/amp/1903697001
Would have really enjoyed seeing him in action.
Hadn't thought about that. It's quite sad Ikechukwu couldn't get healthy. A lot of raw potential.
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Anybody know what Cain's vert is? Seems like he can really jump to me.
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Jared Porter vertical in the news hey!
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Former MU trainer Bob Weingart told a story of taking Artie Green to Chicago to participate in a study measuring G-forces created by athletes.
They walked into the room and Bob looked at the setup.
There was a platform for the athlete to stand on, and jump from.
Weingart asked the person administering the test the height of the ceiling.
Bob was told the platform was 4 inches and the ceiling was 10 feet.
Bob said it won't hold him. The guy assured him that they've tested dozens and there hasn't been any problems.
Artie stepped on the platform, was told to jump as high as he could.
Artie jumped and hit his head on the ceiling.
Weingart grabbed Artie and told him we're out of here and they left.
If this is accurate, the 4" platform combined with Artie's 6'2" height, meant there were 42 inches between Artie's head and the 10 foot ceiling.
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Not joking here but if I recall Jay Zulauf ('91) could jump out of the gym. He was a transfer from BG. 6'6" ish
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Former MU trainer Bob Weingart told a story of taking Artie Green to Chicago to participate in a study measuring G-forces created by athletes.
They walked into the room and Bob looked at the setup.
There was a platform for the athlete to stand on, and jump from.
Weingart asked the person administering the test the height of the ceiling.
Bob was told the platform was 4 inches and the ceiling was 10 feet.
Bob said it won't hold him. The guy assured him that they've tested dozens and there hasn't been any problems.
Artie stepped on the platform, was told to jump as high as he could.
Artie jumped and hit his head on the ceiling.
Weingart grabbed Artie and told him we're out of here and they left.
If this is accurate, the 4" platform combined with Artie's 6'2" height, meant there were 42 inches between Artie's head and the 10 foot ceiling.
I have heard this story, too, and I don't doubt that it's true.
Hank used Artie on the opening tip against 7-footers ... and Artie won his share of 'em.
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This is from the Jae/DJO draft class combine where DJO topped the entire class on Max.
DJO: 33.5 No Jump/41.5 max
Jae: 31 No Jump/34.5 Max
https://www.nbadraft.net/2012-nba-combine-athleticism-results/
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I don't know if James had the highest vert, but this will always be one of my favorite plays:
https://youtu.be/r6aVbxKf1WM?t=2
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Damon Key for the win, I saw him dunk once or twice in 4 years, it was an incredulous sight.
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I remember Terry Reason being able to get up in the air
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Possession starting at 20:30. Todd wasn't the smartest kid in the world, and he bit hard on the ball fake, but he can jump over Ben Brust.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYQa9FYm3YI
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Rick Smith?
This is the most clever post of the thread IMHO and surprised it hasn't gotten more positive feedback.
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I think he only had a 35. What is Mrs. Gato's vert?
1"
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No mention of Harry Froling ::)
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Didn’t Trend Blackledge have some impressive hops?
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I remember Terry Reason being able to get up in the air
With or without hair?
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I don't know if James had the highest vert, but this will always be one of my favorite plays:
https://youtu.be/r6aVbxKf1WM?t=2
Can't find the video, but the pic here shows another of my favorites from Dom:
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/dominic-james-of-the-marquette-golden-eagles-leaps-to-block-news-photo/78338860
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With or without hair?
That hair must've caused some serious wind resistance when he got to cruising altitude.
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1"
She may be playing possum.
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Missing 3 players that had hops, George Thompson and Pat Smith 6'3" center, and Gene Smith.
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Bob Weingart said the greatest jumper he saw was Artie
Bob was with the program from the 40's through his retirement in the mid 80's
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Off the top of my head I would have to say wally
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Off the top of my head I would have to say wally
Many of us have had some fun talking about Wally. And he wasn’t very good at basketball. But you know what? You’re right. The guy could sky!
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Herb Harrison might have gotten the highest.
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Many of us have had some fun talking about Wally. And he wasn’t very good at basketball. But you know what? You’re right. The guy could sky!
He flopped in two sports, one could say.
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Herb Harrison might have gotten the highest.
Mike Davis from Cali may be the leader in the clubhouse here.
Majerus visited Davis in Chico and Davis signed a contract agreeing to submit to random drug testing as part of his returning for his second season.
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Shannon Smith anyone? His claim to fame: stuffed Jordan on a dunk back in the day.
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Artie Green's leaping ability was off the charts.
Hank used him for the opening tip, and he'd often have Artie line up as the inside rebounder on FTs. Lots of alley-oops, too.
Green was listed at 6-2, BTW.
Rivers could sky, too.
Oh, and I literally laughed out loud at "Ners." Thanks!
Artie's vertical and his shooting range were very similar - about 40".
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He flopped in two sports, one could say.
👏👏👏
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I believe the highest recorded vert from an NBA player was either Spud Webb or David Thompson . Both were 48. Although Earl Mannigult allegedly had a 50 and was called for 3 secs in the air. However, humans are pretty average on the animal vert scale.
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He flopped in two sports, one could say.
Bravo.
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I saw a photo of Jerome Whitehead grabbing a rebound over Magic Johnson. Jerome's feet were waist high on Magic (who is 6'8"?).
Pretty impressive air for a 6'11" man!
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I believe the highest recorded vert from an NBA player was either Spud Webb or David Thompson . Both were 48. Although Earl Mannigult allegedly had a 50 and was called for 3 secs in the air. However, humans are pretty average on the animal vert scale.
Good call on Thompson. I remember the hype (wll desreved) when Warriors played them in the final four.
If this is true (Wilt with a 48" that is incredible)
https://olympic.ca/2021/01/20/where-are-they-now-jayna-hefford/
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Legend had it that Artie Green could pick a quarter off of the top of a backboard. Never saw that stunt, but that cat could really jump outta the gym.
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Legend had it that Artie Green could pick a quarter off of the top of a backboard. Never saw that stunt, but that cat could really jump outta the gym.
I recall hearing the same thing about David Thompson.
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Davante?
Good one. But only with Artie on his shoulders
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Legend had it that Artie Green could pick a quarter off of the top of a backboard. Never saw that stunt, but that cat could really jump outta the gym.
Al McGuire said this about Chones and McNeil, ie: that they could "...take a quarter off the top of the backboard and leave change."
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The standing vertical measurement is basically used to emulate jumping off two feet for a rebound. The max vertical usually is applied to more of a running dunk or drive to the basket.
any standing vertical over 40" is pretty amazing. Running max vertical is usually 6-7" higher, and that's where a lot of these 40+ numbers are coming from.
The top of a pro backboard is 13 feet. Wilt had a standing reach of over 9 feet. I'd guess with a running start he possibly could have reached the top of the backboard. Kareem said he tried and never could. If 6-2 Artie could get up to 13'3" or so he'd need a vertical over 50. His entire head would need to be above the rim.
The first I guy I heard the grab a quarter off the backboard about was Connie Hawkins. But his legend was that he could grab a quarter off the top of the backboard and leave change on the way down.
Michael Wilson, although from Memphis he is not the former MU player, played with the Globetrotters and during an event dunked on a 12' rim. That came from the Chamberlain claim that he dunked on a 12-footer during college. That hoop was supposedly a leftover from Coach Phog Allen's suggestion to the NCAA to replace the 10' with 12'
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The standing vertical measurement is basically used to emulate jumping off two feet for a rebound. The max vertical usually is applied to more of a running dunk or drive to the basket.
any standing vertical over 40" is pretty amazing. Running max vertical is usually 6-7" higher, and that's where a lot of these 40+ numbers are coming from.
The top of a pro backboard is 13 feet. Wilt had a standing reach of over 9 feet. I'd guess with a running start he possibly could have reached the top of the backboard. Kareem said he tried and never could. If 6-2 Artie could get up to 13'3" or so he'd need a vertical over 50. His entire head would need to be above the rim.
The first I guy I heard the grab a quarter off the backboard about was Connie Hawkins. But his legend was that he could grab a quarter off the top of the backboard and leave change on the way down.
Michael Wilson, although from Memphis he is not the former MU player, played with the Globetrotters and during an event dunked on a 12' rim. That came from the Chamberlain claim that he dunked on a 12-footer during college. That hoop was supposedly a leftover from Coach Phog Allen's suggestion to the NCAA to replace the 10' with 12'
There's a Cuban volleyball player - Leonel Marshall, Jr. - who supposedly has a 50' vertical (although I suspect that's running, not standing - or what they call "spike touch" in VB as opposed to "block touch"). He is 6'5" and they say he can touch just shy of 13'.
If you like volleyball - and athleticism -- there are some pretty good videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoKhEiAHfYs) of him.
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This article/video (http://ballislife.com/kirpatrick-mccauley-makes-history-and-touches-the-top-of-the-backboard/) purports to show a documented touch of the top of the backboard by a guy named Kirpatrick "Stretch" McCauley. It also mentions that some of the people rumored to be able to touch the top denied it. Among the NBA players discussed, only Dwight Howard claimed he could do it, but apparently, "When ESPN tried to setup a time to document this miracle with Dwight and the Magic it never happened."
I'm not entirely convinced by the video. It's honestly hard to tell what is going on. On the still photo a little farther down the page, it kind of looks like the bell is hanging a couple inches below the top of the backboard. Also, if that pole isn't plum, that could take some height off the touch. I can't help but wonder why he didn't just touch the top of the backboard instead of that bell.
Updated: Another video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNZic5_o4RI) of McCauley on a different day shows he's actually touching about 12'9". A hell of a vertical...but not 13'.
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Herb Harrison might have gotten the highest.
Zack McCall says hi.
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Herb Harrison might have gotten the highest.
Talkin' hops here, doe, hey?
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Talkin' hops here, doe, hey?
Hops, grass - they’re all just plants, ai’na?
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always fun to watch little guys jumpin outta their shoes. i don't recall when dunking became legal in high school, but prior to that, hearing that someone could dunk was like urban legend. every once in a while, during warm ups, the one(s) who could dunk would first look around for the refs, then throw one down. the 70's version of "trash talkin". freaked the opposing teams out
we had a guy(white)on our team who tried to impress the coach's daughter by dunking a baseball. he promptly failed and broke the glass backboard. they did end up getting married a few years later however. believe it or not, he was one of the best athletes in our school at that time. my point is, dunking has come a long way.
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The standing vertical measurement is basically used to emulate jumping off two feet for a rebound. The max vertical usually is applied to more of a running dunk or drive to the basket.
any standing vertical over 40" is pretty amazing. Running max vertical is usually 6-7" higher, and that's where a lot of these 40+ numbers are coming from.
The top of a pro backboard is 13 feet. Wilt had a standing reach of over 9 feet. I'd guess with a running start he possibly could have reached the top of the backboard. Kareem said he tried and never could. If 6-2 Artie could get up to 13'3" or so he'd need a vertical over 50. His entire head would need to be above the rim.
The first I guy I heard the grab a quarter off the backboard about was Connie Hawkins. But his legend was that he could grab a quarter off the top of the backboard and leave change on the way down.
Michael Wilson, although from Memphis he is not the former MU player, played with the Globetrotters and during an event dunked on a 12' rim. That came from the Chamberlain claim that he dunked on a 12-footer during college. That hoop was supposedly a leftover from Coach Phog Allen's suggestion to the NCAA to replace the 10' with 12'
Good info oldwarrior.
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I remember Mbakwe broke his nose on the backboard his senior year of HS, but those knee injuries didn't let us see any of that vert.
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I remember Mbakwe broke his nose on the backboard his senior year of HS, but those knee injuries didn't let us see any of that vert.
I heard his nose broke the backboard before it even hit.
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Is there a reason why Wally Ellenson's name has not been called?
This from a 2015 article:
"Ellenson doesn't know his vertical jump, but it has to be impressive. He can touch the backboard 2 feet above the rim and can take off from the free-throw line and dunk, a la Michael Jordan. As a freshman at Minnesota, his teammates called him the "Kangaroo Kid" and the nickname stuck. It's his Twitter handle."
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Is there a reason why Wally Ellenson's name has not been mentioned?
Because we are only talking about basketball players.
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Is there a reason why Wally Ellenson's name has not been called?
This from a 2015 article:
"Ellenson doesn't know his vertical jump, but it has to be impressive. He can touch the backboard 2 feet above the rim and can take off from the free-throw line and dunk, a la Michael Jordan. As a freshman at Minnesota, his teammates called him the "Kangaroo Kid" and the nickname stuck. It's his Twitter handle."
Mainly because his name has been called by multiple posters.
Wally E must have had a pretty decent one.
Off the top of my head I would have to say wally
Many of us have had some fun talking about Wally. And he wasn’t very good at basketball. But you know what? You’re right. The guy could sky!
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I'd have to do some serious digging to find exactly what he did, but do recall WE doing some things in a HS game of his I covered that I declared I thought he'd be a future dunk contest winner someday.
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There was a thunderous, breakaway, one handed dunk in the Rec Center back in 1981.
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There was a thunderous, breakaway, one handed dunk in the Rec Center back in 1981.
I thought Ners was younger than that.
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There was a thunderous, breakaway, one handed dunk in the Rec Center back in 1981.
Newsie?
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Newsie?
That, or maybe Chili....
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Newsie?
Nope lol reached to half the net, only 5'-7"
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I thought Ners was younger than that.
Ahem
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Is there a reason why Wally Ellenson's name has not been called?
This from a 2015 article:
"Ellenson doesn't know his vertical jump, but it has to be impressive. He can touch the backboard 2 feet above the rim and can take off from the free-throw line and dunk, a la Michael Jordan. As a freshman at Minnesota, his teammates called him the "Kangaroo Kid" and the nickname stuck. It's his Twitter handle."
There was only one "kangaroo kid" in basketball and it wasn't Wally.
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Incoming recruit has some nice hops
https://twitter.com/holdyourown_11/status/1352412405024829443?s=19