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I get it. But if you're Northwestern, Duke , Iowa St. or Arizona you at least have(d) a small chance.
As for basketball, I agree it is different but football is the driving force in college sports. The revenues are 10X that of basketball.
Why did Texas leave a conference that it could possibly win and get to the CFP to be the 6th best team in the SEC? Money?
TAMUI do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.
I get it. But if you're Northwestern, Duke , Iowa St. or Arizona you at least have(d) a small chance. As for basketball, I agree it is different but football is the driving force in college sports. The revenues are 10X that of basketball. Why did Texas leave a conference that it could possibly win and get to the CFP to be the 6th best team in the SEC? Money?
TAMU, I really hope you are right. I spent $3K taking my wife, daughter and a friend to the MU v DePaul game in 2020. Such a great time. I love MU and MU hoops. I support MU on a modest level and hope it and the Big East will thrive. I also send Creighton $50k per year. I'm all in on MU and the Big East. But I see more changes in the future. I never thought I'd see a school like Kansas on the outside, yet here we are.
I guess I just don't find these changes as shocking as you do. I called this back in 2011 and have been talking about how Kansas would get left out and maybe that could lead to a situation where the Big East adds Kansas basketball ever since. None of these changes lead to me believe that college sports as we know it is over. Power is getting more and more consolidated, but a universal truth about those in power is that they love the status quo.
The Big 14 will never force a situation that subtracts Northwestern. It’s in an attractive market and the academics still matter to the presidents of the schools making up the league. Now, would things change if schools like Ohio State and Penn State start openly flirting with the SEC or a new “super conference”? PerhapsIf you look at part of the reasoning for the new “alliance”, part of it is the flipping sanctity of the Rose Bowl. You’re overestimating the Big 14’s desire to upset the current structure of college sports.
You aren't going to see conferences kick out members. There are likely punitive rules that would prevent this from happening. What you would see is the top programs leave to join another conference like you saw with the Big 12.So the Big Ten isn't kicking out Northwestern. If anything would happen, it would be Ohio State and Michigan departing for elsewhere.
"Academics still matter" ? Is that why the Big10 added Nebraska? The truth is if the Big 10 could kick out Northwestern and add money to each school, they will. This is a very real scenario. If that happens, I'd take NW in the Big East. I concede that's a big 'if'.
For the millionth time, Nebraska was an AAU member when they joined the league and the Big 14 isn’t kicking anyone out
Okay, so Nebraska was added for their academic prestige. Got it.I think the scenario put forth of OSU, PSU and Michigan leaving for a super conference is most likely. I would agree that Northwestern will not get kicked out but nothing would surprise me.
Based on the presser about the alliance, I can confidently say it will be a colossal failure
Agreed. I don't get it. We all know the SEC is becoming a real powerhouse but the "alliance' is silly. Michigan, OSU or a North Carolina will drop their conference like a bad habit in a heart beat if invited.
So what happens to the Big XII? I believe most of those schools spend more on football/athletics than the ACC or PAC 12 schools. I'll assume it goes away but the Oklahoma States. Baylors, Texas Techs and Kansases are some major programs. Very interesting.
The PAC 12 commissioner said that they could decide as soon as this week add new members. I don't know if that means they have targets in mind or if they just means that they will decide whether or not to even consider new members. Assuming they do try to expand, I imagine Texas Tech and Oklahoma State are likely targets. Maybe TCU and Baylor too if they want to get to 16. Before this alliance nonsense, my assumption was that the next move would be for the B1G to raid the ACC which in turn would cause the ACC to raid the remains of the B12 and the best AAC programs. Now that they are "allied" I wonder if that means the B1G is not going to expand. I don't see the B1G being interested in any of the B12's scraps or AAC...and they don't have the juice to steal from the SEC, so if they expand I think it has to be by taking ACC programs.It will be interesting to see who ends up where.
The ACC grant of rights extends another 14 years. Per Heather Dimich on Dan Patrick this morning, an ACC team looking to leave right now would have to pony up over $500 million. I can’t see the Big Ten interested in Kansas. Being dreadful in football doesn’t matter to them (see: Rutgers), but who next to get to 16? ND will always be their ultimate prize abd they have great bargaining power right now.
Yeah, I know about the grant of rights, I've just never been convinced that it is an airtight defense against being raided. Personally would be surprised if OU and Texas actually wait until 2025 to move.